WTF is up with the Schools

[poker face]

kids commiting hass murders, Sick fucks in the washrooms molesting young children, and teacher's sexually assaulting their students. Shit blowing up in New York.

How hard is it to get an education these days?

just look at the headlines on www.cp24.com

 

[Skipper]

My kids are going to private school.

 

[Syntax Error]

Originally posted by Skipper
My kids are going to private school.

that doesn't solve the problem! it just creates more class separation and all the po' kids are gonna be pissed at your kids for being so privleged.

 

[Skipper]

My primary concern is for the saftey and well being of my children. Private schools are not immune to violence or drugs or anything else, but they sure aren't in the same state of disarray as the public school system in Ontario, Canada, and all of North America for that matter.

Class separation shouldn't be blamed on those who can and choose to send their children to better schools. It should be blamed on the government who can't provide the same level of safety and education to the masses.

 

[Syntax Error]

but having a 2-tiered system doesn't help society as a whole. like with health care, just because someone is rich doesn't mean they have more of a right to life.

 

[Bumbaclat]

Originally posted by Syntax Error
but having a 2-tiered system doesn't help society as a whole. like with health care, just because someone is rich doesn't mean they have more of a right to life.

I agree that it doesn't help society as a whole but if it helps me I'm all for it. There will always be disparities, just try and be on the right end of them.

Bumbaclat

 

[Syntax Error]

Originally posted by Bumbaclat


I agree that it doesn't help society as a whole but if it helps me I'm all for it. There will always be disparities, just try and be on the right end of them.

Bumbaclat

how sensitive!

 

[Skipper]

Syntax, what would you do? If you could put your children in private schools, would you? If not, why?

Don't take me as someone who isn't concerned about society. I don't advocate a two-tiered system necessarily. But if the two-tiered system is already in place, I'm going to take advantage of it to put my kids in better schools.

As I said, my kids would be my primary concern. I can't imagine anyone faulting me for that.

 

[Syntax Error]

of course we all want the best for our kids! it's just that the idea of isolating them somehow from the rest of society doesn't help anyone accept for your own children. i'm not saying that i'm not a selfish person because 98% of the time i'm thinking of nothing but myself. i just don't believe that segregation helps anyone. the ones on the better side of the fence become more isolated from the have-nots. it happens with countries, races and classes.

who says that just because you go to public school you cannot be successful or that you're putting your life in danger? the more demand there is for private school the less money there is to go into public school. think about it, if you're sending your kids to private school, do you really give a fuck about school funding? the schools system will collapse on itself and we'll all have to find factory jobs for our kids who went to public school.

sorry my dog is distracting me!

 

[Bumbaclat]

Originally posted by Syntax Error


how sensitive!

I don't seem to recall ever claiming I'm sensitive.

Bumbaclat

 

[Skipper]

Originally posted by Syntax Error
of course we all want the best for our kids! it's just that the idea of isolating them somehow from the rest of society doesn't help anyone accept for your own children. i'm not saying that i'm not a selfish person because 98% of the time i'm thinking of nothing but myself. i just don't believe that segregation helps anyone. the ones on the better side of the fence become more isolated from the have-nots. it happens with countries, races and classes.

who says that just because you go to public school you cannot be successful or that you're putting your life in danger? the more demand there is for private school the less money there is to go into public school. think about it, if you're sending your kids to private school, do you really give a fuck about school funding? the schools system will collapse on itself and we'll all have to find factory jobs for our kids who went to public school.

sorry my dog is distracting me!

I don't think private schools are isolated places for your kids. Kids will encounter the same problems as they would in a public school just not to the same degree. For example, they may see a fist fight, but not a stabbing. They may experiment with smoking weed, but probably not coke. See what I'm saying? Kids still learn how to handle life's lessons, they still make friends, they still have sports teams, etc.

I don't think private schools are the answer to protecting kids from drugs or violence, and I don't think they are the key to raising a successful child, but I do think that they make the above more likely. On top of that, I think the quality of education is higher.

The government isn't pulling money out of pubic education because people are increasingly sending their kids to private schools. The public school system is as overrun with students as it ever was. The demand for public education has never been higher. It's the government that has made a mess out of things and that has caused people like me to vow to send their kids to private schools.

 

[AshG]

Originally posted by Skipper


I don't think private schools are isolated places for your kids. Kids will encounter the same problems as they would in a public school just not to the same degree. For example, they may see a fist fight, but not a stabbing. They may experiment with smoking weed, but probably not coke. See what I'm saying? Kids still learn how to handle life's lessons, they still make friends, they still have sports teams, etc.

I don't think private schools are the answer to protecting kids from drugs or violence, and I don't think they are the key to raising a successful child, but I do think that they make the above more likely. On top of that, I think the quality of education is higher.

The government isn't pulling money out of pubic education because people are increasingly sending their kids to private schools. The public school system is as overrun with students as it ever was. The demand for public education has never been higher. It's the government that has made a mess out of things and that has caused people like me to vow to send their kids to private schools.

Well i have to disagree with you about the degree of problems seen at private schools. i went to one and when i traded stories with my public school friends, there was no contest - our school was far worse.

My education was no better than a public school, and in many cases worse. Bizarre teaching practices, questionable qualifications, and poorly updated facilities were the norm.

The diversity of people who attended this school was strange to say the least. I honestly felt like i was in a different world socializing with them. I won't go into details here, but there was a real lack of... reality to the whole situation.

I found a lot of shortcomings and negative incidents could easily be covered up in a private school. Also the academic integrity is almost non-existent. Parent complains loud enough about a kid's mark, then that mark changes to an A.

I'm not saying that public schools are the best choice, but i see just as many and severe shortcomings with private schools.
just different issues.

 

[Syntax Error]

Originally posted by Bumbaclat


I don't seem to recall ever claiming I'm sensitive.

Bumbaclat

sorry, i was distracted by my dog.

 

[Bumbaclat]

Originally posted by AshG
Well i have to disagree with you about the degree of problems seen at private schools. i went to one and when i traded stories with my public school friends, there was no contest - our school was far worse.

You can't base all private schools on the one you went to. That's not much of a study group.

Originally posted by AshG
My education was no better than a public school, and in many cases worse. Bizarre teaching practices, questionable qualifications, and poorly updated facilities were the norm.

You will find substandard educations in both the public and private school systems. You obviously went to a substandard private school. As a whole though, the private school system offers a superior, more personalized education. Not to say there aren't quality public school educations avilable.

Bumbaclat

 

[Cheeka]

I disagree that private schools as a whole provide a better education.
When I was at uni I took a course that focused on education and there was a lot of shortcomings in private schools.
Not to say that there isn't MANY quality schools though..
The most relevent being that private schools aren't required to have "qualified" teachers since they aren't regulated (at the same level anyway) by the government.
Many only require an undergrad degree.

 

[terrawrist III]

schools I bet have always been this way...people are coming forward and/or being found out sooner rather then later

 

[AshG]

Originally posted by Bumbaclat

You can't base all private schools on the one you went to. That's not much of a study group.


You will find substandard educations in both the public and private school systems. You obviously went to a substandard private school. As a whole though, the private school system offers a superior, more personalized education. Not to say there aren't quality public school educations avilable.

Bumbaclat

Actually the school I went to was known as one of the top few to attend.
I've also taught at 2 private schools and 1 public and the results agree with my previous statements.
That said, I never claimed to have observed a study group of reliable magnitude; rather that the generality of better education in private schools should certainly not be the given that the administrators would have you believe.
The most disturbing aspect is the hush-hush atmosphere that pervades, in addition to the deplorable lack of morals in terms of academic honesty.
As an educator, it truly disgusts me.