Would you want to witness armageddon?

wayne kenoff · Dec 18, 2003

Everything that has a beginning also has an end. Armageddon is a common theme in pop culture these days, now that we don't have a cold war to obsess over.

Personally, I find the neverending cycle of birth, growth, decline and death interesting enough on the micro scale that I would not care to see the end of everything that I know and hold as valuable.

but the flipside is that witnessing the "end of the world" would be a unique and completely exhilirating experience. You would be at the pinnacle of earth civilization, only to watch it all go down.

it's going to end one day, whether it's nuclear devastation in the near term, asteriod collision in the medium term, or the sun turning into a red giant in the long term. would you want to be around to witness it? Part of me is at least a little curious.

(incidentally, my hope for the human race, or whatever it evolves into, is endless transformation and rebirth. I suppose that means space exploration and maybe one day, transcending our bodies altogether ... or is that just death by another name?)

Adam · Dec 18, 2003

i think it would be neat.

unless i started barfing blood like in 28 days later.

smack · Dec 18, 2003

I had a REALLY scary dream earlier in the week about the end of the world. All of a sudden the bright blue sky became dark and full of ash. Everything turned into chaos. People were running and screaming. Then all of a sudden these human-like creatures who were covered in flames of fire were chasing everyone and trying to burn them. I was running away from them but eventually got burned. Then these "fire people" were multiplying and at the the end of my dream all human life ceased to exist and the world as we know it now was completely different. It was really disturbing. No I do not want to witness armageddon if it's anything like that.

I think I need help.

The Tesseract · Dec 18, 2003

A great flame deluge would be cool. but an ice age would be more interesting... geologically speaking. An ice age would be a slower threat, and could possibly allow for all that we know, to be stored in a vault for later retrieval. Not that any other apocalyptic scenario wouldn't allow for that... but at least we'd know it was coming and took the precautions to save ourselves one way or another. (i don't buy that great flood then freeze scenario that Day After Tomorrow is going to present us with)

wayne kenoff · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by Adam
i think it would be neat.

unless i started barfing blood like in 28 days later.

that would suck. same with the fire demon scenario. but maybe we think of the end as a bad thing because we can't conceive of a good armageddon scenario. Maybe we all get kidnapped by aliens that melt us down, turn us into dildos, and drop us on a planet of Amazon goddesses.

derek · Dec 18, 2003

the mayan's believe the earth goes through 5 cycles where at the end of a cycle everything is wiped out (almost everyting), and a new cycle begins until the end of th 5th cylce (who knows what devestating will be bestowed then). we are currently in the fifth cycle, and according to the mayan calander on dec 12, 2012 (i may have the wrong day) the fifth cycle will come to an end

armageddon baby.

peace,

derek

smack · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by wayne kenoff
:Maybe we all get kidnapped by aliens that melt us down, turn us into dildos, and drop us on a planet of Amazon goddesses.

That, or Christ will lead us to salvation.

chipotle · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by Adam

unless i started barfing blood like in 28 days later.

that would actually be armageddon itself IMO. You just ruined a good movie.

anyways, no i wouldn't want to witness the end.. of all ends.
or
maybe I would.... it depends on what type of end it was.
maybe I would come out as a better individual if I were to survive?

who knows?

wayne kenoff · Dec 18, 2003

hey derek, have you checked out johntitor.com? it's pretty interesting, in a sci-fi vein. there's a thread about it

wayne kenoff · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by smack
That, or Christ will lead us to salvation.

maybe the aliens' spaceship is called Christ

smack · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by derek
dec 12, 2012 (i may have the wrong day)

LOL that might be important. Then again, maybe its not. There's a house track with some guy talking about the very thing you are talking about. I think it was in H-Foundations essential mix. I.D. anyone?

chipotle · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by derek
the mayan's believe the earth goes through 5 cycles where at the end of a cycle everything is wiped out (almost everyting), and a new cycle begins until the end of th 5th cylce (who knows what devestating will be bestowed then). we are currently in the fifth cycle, and according to the mayan calander on dec 12, 2012 (i may have the wrong day) the fifth cycle will come to an end

armageddon baby.

peace,

derek

Mayan civilazation is pretty much extinct. There are people that are descendants of that culture however.

DaPhatConductor · Dec 18, 2003

as long as i get to weld assault turrets onto construction equipment im down.

smack · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by chipotle
Mayan civilazation is pretty much extinct. There are people that are descendants of that culture however.

Whats your point? The fact that they are now extinct is further proof that their prophecies may be right.

chipotle · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by smack
Whats your point? The fact that they are now extinct is further proof that their prophecies may be right.

well,you see they are extinct partly because of the Spanish conquistadors. Just like the whhhiiite man killed off the indigenous people and a lot of the culture, the Spaniards did the same.
Anyways, they also picked on their biggest people and offered them to their Gods. Essentially they sort of killed off a lot of their stronger people.

They were very spiritual people though, althought who knows if they might be right in their prediction.

wayne kenoff · Dec 18, 2003

the thing about prophecies is that they require faith and generate belief. And belief can alter people's behaviours, which in turn have their own results. Some prophecies are self-fufilling, others are self-limiting. I'm intrigued by the stories of prophets in much the same way that I like sci-fi. It MIGHT happen... but you can never know for certain. at least i can't.

derek · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by smack
Whats your point? The fact that they are now extinct is further proof that their prophecies may be right.

so limited in your focus, you are.

the point is an ancient civilation, who had a detailed cosmogony (more detailed then we originally gave them credit for) made a prediction about the ending of a cycle. the fact they are extinct (technically not the correct term as their gene pool still exists although somewhat diluted) is irrelevant. that fact that they had a detailed date for the end of the world is astounding.

peace,

derek

wayne kenoff · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by derek
that fact that they had a detailed date for the end of the world is astounding.

it is pretty wild, i agree.

the flipside is that it could be as deep and meaningful as when deaner talks about the "anniversary of your death" in FUBAR.

derek · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by wayne kenoff
it is pretty wild, i agree.

the flipside is that it could be as deep and meaningful as when deaner talks about the "anniversary of your death" in FUBAR.

^^^

too funny. best is when there at the wake, and they crack the bin dare done dat joke.

chipotle · Dec 18, 2003

that is a very funny movie IMO.

"what is wrong with you samoans?, you underestimate the decency of the white man's culture!"

wayne kenoff · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by The Tesseract
A great flame deluge would be cool. but an ice age would be more interesting... geologically speaking. An ice age would be a slower threat, and could possibly allow for all that we know, to be stored in a vault for later retrieval. Not that any other apocalyptic scenario wouldn't allow for that... but at least we'd know it was coming and took the precautions to save ourselves one way or another. (i don't buy that great flood then freeze scenario that Day After Tomorrow is going to present us with)

another ice age? shiaat. as a Canadian, I welcome global warming. but it would be cool to be trapped in ice for thousands of years, only to be revived by a couple of high school kids and become the party animal phenomenon of the school year.

diablo · Dec 18, 2003

Yeah, I'd want to be there.

wayne kenoff · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by diablo
Yeah, I'd want to be there.

with a name like diablo, you might be giving orders

chipotle · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by wayne kenoff
another ice age? shiaat. as a Canadian, I welcome global warming. but it would be cool to be trapped in ice for thousands of years, only to be revived by a couple of high school kids and become the party animal phenomenon of the school year.

Encino man would be proud!

Skipper · Dec 18, 2003

No fucking way. I have nightmares about shit like that....

god, I hope I don't have one tonight now!

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