Why is the TECHNO room more aggressive than other rooms on TRIBE?

[Buddy Holly]

Just an observation.

I was perolling around the other rooms and there were no hints of arguing, dissing, trashing, etc.
Things seemed to be a bit more mellow. People were having a grand-ole' time with little to no negativity.

My thought on this phenomenon would be that Techno music lures the more aggressive side of people. People with aggressive natures tend to listen to music that is aggressive. Now on that thought, why isn't the HARDCORE room full of gunshots, fuck you's and blood shed?.......That music is insane. You would figure the most psychotic people would be in there bumping crystal at their computer workstations and lashing out at people. But they don't. They have normal conversations about music and whatever tickles their fancy.

Don't get me wrong, I love the drama in the TECHNO room. I like the thought of people saying what they think and telling people where to go if their opinions clash. But I'm wondering if the people who listen to TECHNO (Hard techno) have aggressive tendancies and therefore promote conflict within conversation.........






Im just KILLING time at work. (emphasis on KILLING)

 

[deep]

because everyone's a wanker in here

 

[Skipper]

because it's mostly males in here?

 

[OhNo!]

 

[isoprax]

I'm a wanker.



Just thought...techno is the most badly defined genre I think...too many people call trance techno etc...techno was and to some degree still is a blanket term for electronic music. the people who HATE other genres get very offended when no one knows what they're talking about..

when I'm asked what I play I never want to say Techno if the person I'm talking to doesn't know what it is...if I say Techno and the first thing out of their mouth is "Oh dance music from the radio" I will then punch them squarely in the mouth..well I'll ant to.

Techno also seem to be the one of the few genres where people talk about educating people about the music...I think this is a result of the blanket term thing going on as well

 

[deep]

I think techno purists pride themselves on a certain subversive / underground identification. The characteristics of the music itself suggests this. It eschews melody, at least relative to other genres. Look at pop music, what attracts people most to a song is typically the melody or hook. The characteristic of techno is (generally, not always) fundamentally different from what is most accessible to most people.

I honestly do believe that music reflects aspects of a person's personality or what they value. It may be a bit of a stretch, but I think that people who like techno = like being outside of the norm = being outside of the norm is fundamentally less "agreeable" than it is disagreeable. Which is why I think you find distinctions between people who think minimal is the only real shit, or anything with a melody (i.e. trance, progressive, etc.) is cliched, etc. I don't think LT's observation that aggressive music goes hand in hand with aggressive people is off the mark.

Naturally there are always exceptions to the rule and most people find generalizations unfair. But I think this subject makes for interesting discussion.

Isoprax's point about tech-heads constantly having to tell people the crystal method is NOT techno is a good one. And kinda ties in with what I was saying earlier. If people identify themselves as being somewhat different from the norm it's fairly offensive to be lumped into a generalized category with genres one might consider more pedestrian.

 

[Buddy Holly]

Originally posted by OhNo!

There it is!!....My beloved green sock!!!

There's nothing like spreading a little love in the techno room.
Thanks Curt.






Skipper......I think you may be right with the "guys room" thing.

 

[oddmyth]

Originally posted by deep
Isoprax's point about tech-heads constantly having to tell people the crystal method is NOT techno is a good one. And kinda ties in with what I was saying earlier. If people identify themselves as being somewhat different from the norm it's fairly offensive to be lumped into a generalized category with genres one might consider more pedestrian.

The eternal paradox!! AHHHHH! Now just imagine what it would be like if we were all in our late teens or early twenties. How impudent and self righteous we would all seem then! HAHA Welcome to the technolist circa 1998.

Apologies to anyone currently in their late teens or early twenties now.

My two cents - perhaps the aggression displayed in this room has more to do with passion for music than for insatiable anger towards and and all human beings who do not agree that

A. Techno is god (or good you choose)
B. Black is the only colour for clothing (or not a colour at all, but that's irrelevant).
or
C. That your taste in techno is the best taste in techno that there ever was or will be, stamped it no erasy's.

Food for thought.
Now back to you regularly schedule dose of immaturity.
odbx

 

[why not]

Originally posted by Skipper
because it's mostly males in here?

boys can be pretty competitive and aggressive.

deep is right as well, in that techno (in the purist sense) tries to think of itself as 'smarter' than other genres, but also includes so many sub-genres that the boys are always arguing about what real techno is.
house can be the same way though, you just don't see it in the house room here. look at the message boards on deephousepage.com and garagehousemusic.com or undergroundNYC.com and you'll see plenty of drama and bitchyness.
old house heads love to put down all the kiddies who like their house hard and filtered and who don't like vocals.


personally, i think it's fine that techno is used to describe anything from trance to german minimalism to electro. in my mind, techno is just about unfamiliar sounds and textures. the sound of the ghosts in the machines dancing with each other.
there's no reason why that can't include melody, or a cheesy snare roll for that matter (mind you, i'd leave a dancefloor these days if i heard a full on snare roll build up, but i'm a snob)

 

[OhNo!]

well I still feel the real perp here is the green sock.I mean what has the green sock done for techno,nothing but cause so much hostility.damn the green sock to HELL!

 

[isoprax]

Originally posted by oddmyth

My two cents - perhaps the aggression displayed in this room has more to do with passion for music than for insatiable anger towards and and all human beings who do not agree that

If I ever get worked up I think this would explain why.

 

[oddmyth]

Originally posted by OhNo!

well I still feel the real perp here is the green sock.I mean what has the green sock done for techno,nothing but cause so much hostility.damn the green sock to HELL!

You might need another green sock if that girl stretches again eh buddy? I'll mail your shirt out this week, I just have to get off work before the post office closes.

odbx

 

[OhNo!]

don't you know the difference between a Fluxion track and that Porter Ricks track,oh you make me soooo mad

 

[oddmyth]

Oh OH OH Teacher OH! I know.

One sounds like the washer and the other sounds like the dryer

odbx

 

[wickedken]

Originally posted by isoprax
I'm a wanker.

...if I say Techno and the first thing out of their mouth is "Oh dance music from the radio" I will then punch them squarely in the mouth..

haha other ways to annoy technophiles:

iii) "Oh yeah did you dig that chemicals brothers track from tomb raider?!"

ii) "Well I'm *sorry* I don't want to have to be on drugs to listen to the music"

i) "There's no words to sing too!"

ed. The last one is slowly becoming moot, as there are more and more tracks coming out with vocals. That's the nice thing about some house tracks, and Barbie Girl of course.

 

[deep]

Originally posted by oddmyth
How impudent and self righteous we would all seem then!

...as opposed to...

My two cents - perhaps the aggression displayed in this room has more to do with passion for music than for insatiable anger towards and and all human beings who do not agree that

I don't doubt that for a second . Those who love techno, really love it. (Including myself).

Sometimes I fear, as is true for the passionate of many genres, that techno purists can overestimate their understanding of other types of music, or the people who might like them. Passion coupled with ignorance does not yield insightful (or in my opinion, worthwhile) perspectives.

Which is why it's fun to troll this room from time to time

 

[Buddy Holly]

I think that sometimes people get so overwhelmed by a certain stimuli (ie Techno) they tend to forget and/or shut out anything else. Everything seems to taste like cheap wine once you've tasted the goods. For example, I was driving our volleyball team to a tournament and I was the only one who was reluctant to listen to anything else other than techno. The girls did not understand what the music was (they were calling it DISCO). I for one will be the first to admit, once I've gained an understanding of the electronic music, I find it very difficult, almost sometimes extremely hard to listen to top 40 music. Soemtimes , people just need to walk away, grab the green sock and do their thing.


....Right Curt!.....

 

[tEkKiD]

hrmmmmm.... i for one cannot just subdue myself to just techno...

i need a good healthy dose of this all the time!!!

rock on punkrock muthafuckas'


s
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[deep]

sd - are you going to the rise against show in jan?

 

[deep]

Originally posted by Buddy Holly
I think that sometimes people get so overwhelmed by a certain stimuli (ie Techno) they tend to forget and/or shut out anything else. Everything seems to taste like cheap wine once you've tasted the goods. For example, I was driving our volleyball team to a tournament and I was the only one who was reluctant to listen to anything else other than techno. The girls did not understand what the music was (they were calling it DISCO). I for one will be the first to admit, once I've gained an understanding of the electronic music, I find it very difficult, almost sometimes extremely hard to listen to top 40 music. Soemtimes , people just need to walk away, grab the green sock and do their thing.


....Right Curt!.....

I can't stand 'pop' music myself so I don't even try to endure it.

But I understand why people do like it.

Electronic music as a whole tends to be fairly serious stuff. Pop music comparatively focuses on simple, accessible expressions. Just having an upbeat catchy tune is a lot more accessible to most people, in comparison to having to "understand" genres like techno or progressive.

I think some people listen to music for the music itself, and for others, music is not necessarily their central focus in so far as it is a soundtrack or backdrop to other things ...

So for them it may not be as imperative to have some life altering perspective change come from what they listen to in so far as it is to just be entertained

It's not necessarily a bad thing, just two different ways of experiencing music in general

Anyways I'd like to close by saying everyone in the techno room is ugly and has shit taste in music

techno sucks balls and so do the people who listen to it *







































*there's not enough commentary in this thread so hopefully needless insults will get some of the chinstrokers to chime in...jagoffs

 

[Destro Sanchez]

fuck you deep.




(is that what you were looking for?)


hope i could help


as for electronic music as a whole being serious stuff..........

that's masturdebateable and I won't touch it. (without a green sock of course)


destro,
from the chin stroking shoe gazing gallery....

 

[Destro Sanchez]

oh ya,


this threads been dun to def enuf times in this room.


we love techno.
we are passionate about our love.
and like everyone else said, techno is so much more than one pigeonholed style of music (ie. uk hard house or ghetto-tech)

Destro
fuck you LT, fuck you techno room, fuck you deep, fuck you techno head stereotypes....where the fucks my weed at?!!?!?!? arrrgh

 

[deep]

Originally posted by Destro Sanchez
fuck you deep.

hooray!

as for electronic music as a whole being serious stuff..........

that's masturdebateable and I won't touch it. (without a green sock of course)

'tends to' does not mean 'always'

also, the sky is blue

hopefully these revelations will assist you in better living through knowledge

The point is the range and the particular emotions expressed in pop music is a lot easier for people to grasp immediately than many electronic genres

 

[Skipper]

Living and loving techno to the extreme is not an excuse to be an asshole though. And I don't buy the "it's just a message board" BS - enough of us know each other outside of this forum that this forum is a means of communciation just like any other. Does being behind a computer screen give people the right to be a jerkoff when they would normally be more polite in person?

Maybe it's just me, but I like to be the same online as I am in person.

I just don't buy the "we love techno so much" excuse for being so intimidating and agressive.

 

[jeffpayne]

Just an observation.

I was perolling around the other rooms and there were no hints of arguing, dissing, trashing, etc.
Things seemed to be a bit more mellow. People were having a grand-ole' time with little to no negativity.

My thought on this phenomenon would be that Techno music lures the more aggressive side of people. People with aggressive natures tend to listen to music that is aggressive. Now on that thought, why isn't the HARDCORE room full of gunshots, fuck you's and blood shed?.......That music is insane. You would figure the most psychotic people would be in there bumping crystal at their computer workstations and lashing out at people. But they don't. They have normal conversations about music and whatever tickles their fancy.

Don't get me wrong, I love the drama in the TECHNO room. I like the thought of people saying what they think and telling people where to go if their opinions clash. But I'm wondering if the people who listen to TECHNO (Hard techno) have aggressive tendancies and therefore promote conflict within conversation.........

F U, Lionel.






































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