oooh, that was like. deep, man.Originally posted by PosTMOd
Nothing only exists as a concept... the very same way as everything only exists as a concept.
In fact, they are the same.
Because there is always something more.Originally posted by air-bag
Why is everything only a concept?
Originally posted by PosTMOd
Because there is always something more.
Imagine everything. You can't.
Imagine that you could. What's outside that? Nothing? Well, then, that nothing becomes something, and therefore you didn't imagine everything... and so on.
The flipside is that in order to imagine nothing, you have to imagine everything. If you imagine everything, what is left must be nothing. But, since it is something, it is not nothing.
1. Theoretical = conceptual. Conceptual proof is nowhere close to actual empirical proof.Originally posted by air-bag
1. It does not necessarily mean that you need to be able to imagine something in order to prove its existence. Theoretical math and physiscs are excellent examples.
2. >>imagine that you could imagine everything>> then you would not need to consider what is outside of it since you would be capable of imagining everything with no outside. It would just be everything. (Same with infinity.. you cant imagine it but you can define it)
1. Why not? I think its even better. Empirical proof is based of your perception. Besides, by examining something you might distort its behaviour.Originally posted by PosTMOd
1. Theoretical = conceptual. Conceptual proof is nowhere close to actual empirical proof.
2. You can only define it conceptually. And, if you could imagine everything, then the concept of nothing would not exist, and then the concept of everything would be useless as well.
what does -1 represent?Originally posted by PosTMOd
Add up all the numbers in the universe, matching each positive one with each negative one:
(1 + (-1)) + (2 + (-2)) + (3 + (-3)) +... = 0 + 0 + 0 + ... = 0
[joey lawrence] WHOA! [/joey lawrence]
if each number represents something in the universe...
everything = nothing
What is nothing, if you have everything? It becomes part of the everything, and thus doesn't "exist" on its own... or, it is something, and therefore you don't have everything. M'kay?Originally posted by air-bag
2. I dont see how being able to imagine everything, nothing would cease to exist. You can imagine coldness, but you can also imagine hotness. Those are opposite yet both exist.
cant u say the EXACT same thing about everything and nothing?Originally posted by PosTMOd
What is nothing, if you have everything? It becomes part of the everything, and thus doesn't "exist" on its own... or, it is something, and therefore you don't have everything. M'kay?
Hot and cold...hmmm... they are relative terms, in that cold doesn't really exist, only hot... enthalpy, kinetic energy, whatever you want to think of it as.... cold is merely the lack of hot...