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when did you stop listening to trance? =D

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ADT

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so.. of the many people who used to be trance fans (first) on this board..

what was the album, or the dj or the turing point that switched you over to your current genre of choice? why?

id say.. danny tenaglia - global underground athens -

the big turning point for me.. dannys music has so much more depth, substance and variety that the contrast became glaring, or i became more pretensions =D (if thats possible)..

also, i realized that house just has generally fuller sounding rhythms.. and more atmosphere.. which i like..

not to mention.. that redlight district track was the craziest shit i had ever heard...

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Chiclet

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I never stopped listening to Trance :)

Originally posted by ADT
also, i realized that house just has generally fuller sounding rhythms.. and more atmosphere.. which i like..
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"Generally fuller sounding"? Way to "generalize" :p

Name any aspect of any genre that you think all Trance lacks and I'll show you Trance tracks that have it.
 
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deep

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Re: Re: when did you stop listening to trance? =D

Originally posted by Chiclet

Name any aspect of any genre that you think all Trance lacks and I'll show you Trance tracks that have it.
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ADT

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sorry chichlet.. i may not have heard as much trance as you... but ive heard alot... and im just saying i prefer the deeper reverb (ie fuller sound) of the drums used in house..

i still like trance.. i bought politics of dancing (only to be dissapointed) but it had some good tracks..

but this is not a 'trance sucks' thread.. or a whats better than trance thread.. because i dont believe that any kind of music is really better than any other kind.. it so subjective..

but i know what i like.. and i think progressive, and house in general has more to offer me rhythm wise, and atmosphere wise (preferably thick dark and nasty =) )..

its a taste thing..

im just saying that alot of people are stepping away from trance right now for one reason or another... either to progressive or goa (it seems to me)..

and im just interested in people reasonings..

this is not a trance bashing thread.. i love trance

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HC_P

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I also like trance... hopefully its late enough that no-one notices me posting this :D

The one cd that turned me on to trance was Ferry Corsten - Live and Innercity... pure cheese, but I like it!!!

Although, I'm also a fan of many genres. ie, house, prog, deep house, tech-house, etc...

The challenge for me these days is finding cds or djs who combine these different "genres" instead of just sticking to one.

Albert. - time to get back to my fuckin' essay!!!!
 
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ADT

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Originally posted by Stan
Progressive and goa are still trance.
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bullshit..

goa maybe...

progressive (unless your talking about progressive trance - duh!) no way..

it has a fundamentally different structure, tempo..

and most progressive is intentionally anti-epic, which is what i think is the key to its popularity..

that is, alot of producers were trying to build up these epic moments.. and then didnt have the beats to back up thier drops.. or were just dropping shit that sounded alot like older stuff..

progressive follows a house structure.. the money is where the meat is.. much like techno..

its like.. you dont tell a techno, or house crowd when to go of with some cheesy build.. they react to the rhythm naturally..

infact, my absolute favorite thing at big parties is watching a mix develop and seeing this wave of energy spread through the crowd as people pick of feel

and to hear them ever so gradually erupt..

much cooler than some cheesy hands in the air explosion.. just because you told them when to go off.. like some stupid APPLAUSE sign..

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Subsonic Chronic

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What is with people's knocking of trance lately?

No one wants to be associated with anything that's popular. Trance has been for the past few years so it's chique to hate trance. It's easy to generalize all trance as the shitty mainstream stuff, but somehow the same rules somehow don't apply to house? You're comparing the best house out there with the worst trance. What sort of conclusions do you expect to come to?

Maybe there's some elements that you like in house, but if they were so ultimately superior, then they would be copied in every other electronic genre wouldn't they?

I'm not going to get into the classic "genre" debate about what I like and why I like it, but to generalize that house has "more depth, substance and variety" is near-sighted and ignorant of other talented music producers out there.

I've heard trance tunes that have more depth and higher quality production than a lot of house that I hear, and consequently I've heard really wicked house tunes too. And although most of what's been pushed as "trance" for the past couple of years has been commercial and cheesy, that doesn't mean that good trance isn't there, it's just that you have to look a little harder for it.

Pete
 
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matty

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it's all fucking music people. I bet dollars to donuts that I could find good music from any genre that exists. Personally, I started into techno a few years ago after initially being bit by the trance bug. I found that there was more depth to techno music but that doesn't mean it's true, just personal opinion is all.

Besides, trance parties are great for diverting all the no shirt gino's and 'hug my sweaty body now, I'm on E!' type people away from the places I go. ;)
 
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Persephone

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I couldn't have said it better myself Pete...thanx :)

It looks like you're in for it now ADT...
So you have a personal liking for darker music, more "dirty" music? Well, then of course you're not going to like trance as much as house or techno! That doesn't make all house better (or worse for that matter) than the very best of trance...

Besides, I know for a fact that ADT is a die-hard happy-hardcore fan...now if you want to go criticizing a music style, especially in reference to it's "depth" and "darkness", why don't we talk about happy hardcore???

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Subsonic Chronic

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Originally posted by m..m
Besides, trance parties are great for diverting all the no shirt gino's and 'hug my sweaty body now, I'm on E!' type people away from the places I go. ;)
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Must... refrain... from... techno snob... comment... ;)

p.s. psy-trance is where it's at. The music and the parties. :D

Pete
 
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matty

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bring it on trance boy :p

I think psy trance and goa are the only types of trance that I can stomach these days. Some crazy fucked up music that is.
 
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Rosey

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so you stopped listening to trance....because you want to listen to house.....? is that correct?

oh, i see.....

*coo-coo* *coo-coo* :p


but seriously people, ADT isn't saying that trance is bad, it, like everything else has it's good and bad examples though. he's just asking a question which applies only to former trance fans.

personally i always enjoyed the harder side of techno, but sets by misstress barbara and cristian vogel in late '00, early '01, soldified my love for techno.
 
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poker face

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I never started listening to trance!

I was forced to listen to it back in the day at parties and I had gag through it but now I am glad it is finally headed towards progressive.
 
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Doug.M.

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I never even started listening to trance. There is no Funk in it, so I see no way of dancing to it

Doug
 
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AdRiaN

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Genres

You cannot really compare the current state of progressive and house music with epic trance from 2-3 years ago. Newer music will feature new ideas and production techniques, whereas epic trance has pretty much reached its limit on the creative envelope.

Remember, one of the reasons why epic trance exploded in popularity during 1999 and 2000 was because it sounded fresh in relation to all of that tired old house hanging around from the mid 1990s.

You should be comparing progressive and house against the style of trance being produced right now. The harder, darker, and techier trance ... nü-Trance. ;)

P.S. To answer the original question of this thread, I think one of the first mixes to start getting me to look away from trance was Timo Maas' CD for Mixmag in spring 2000.
 
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