What do you consider Trip Hop?

[Barrie Breaker]

I am posing a question to all of the old schoolers out there. What do you consider 'Trip Hop'?

I ask because when I was younger I remember Trip Hop as being something that fell between breaks and hip hop. A DJ that comes to mind is Sugar Daddy Moth from the mid-nineties.

I ask since hearing Big League Chu's New Year's Eve mix and the DJ Love sample posted by D-monic when he came to NV a month or so ago. I'm getting so confused as to what to call music these days.

For instance, what I used to consider Happy Hardcore was jungle but with a lot of vocals and piano found on many old Slipmatt tapes. Now Happy Hardcore is techno-rotterdam type music (or at least I think).

I also noticed that a lot of you called Big League Chu's mix 'down-tempo' breaks. I would be inclined to call it trip hop. Is that my old-school talking or was I never right in the first place?

I find labels are switching genres and frankly I am completely confused. Another example of this can be applied to jungle. I used to be a huge junglist and really knew my shit. There used to be a difference between 'jungle' and 'drum n' bass'. What I hear as jungle now....I used to call drum n' bass.

What the hell is going on? And please don't give me the old evolution answer. I would really like to know what is what these days.

And I know what I used to call jungle and happy hardcore doesn't even exist anymore but what do you guys consider trip hop? That's the question.

Shawna

 

[Smiley Jo]

Two words:

Ninja.
Tune.

Okay well not in it's entirety, but alot of the artists create fabulous examples of trip hop.

Joanna

 

[Lambchops]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Barrie Breaker:
I am posing a question to all of the old schoolers out there. What do you consider 'Trip Hop'?

A DJ that comes to mind is Sugar Daddy Moth from the mid-nineties.</font>

I think of Dj Shadow...some of the old Tricky and Massive Attack stuff too.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">For instance, what I used to consider Happy Hardcore was jungle but with a lot of vocals and piano found on many old Slipmatt tapes.
Shawna

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It sounds like you're talking about Old Skool Hardcore (the stuff Willar X plays, when he's not playing "breaks")? If thats the case then it's easy to get confused with names.

 

[kprior]

Kruder and Dorfmeister
Theivery Corp.
Ninja Tune

Czech...3rd Year Dose Aniversery.

 

[kprior]

ALso for Drum And Bass...I consider alot of John B's and LTJ Bukem...stuff on Good Looking records (for Bukem) very jazzy Drum +Bass, were Hype and those True Playerz are more Jungle.

kp

 

[kprior]

Mark Farina...and the MushroomJazz's Vol. 1-3......very jazzy trip hop...also...dubby beats.

 

[The Electrician]

just call it breaks....

W. Wooo Hooo

 

[noahmintz]

I've always considered trip hop to be any stuff that has a slow breakbeat, some deep airy bass ... it just has that trip hop feeling to it
Stuff like Massive Attack, early Tricky, Portishead, and the Mad Scientist

stu

 

[Barrie Breaker]

Thanks everyone. Maybe I'm not so out of the loop. But what would you call Big League Chu's mix from New Year's? Hip hop, trip hop or down-tempo breaks?

 

[Thunder]

Herbalizer is where it is at!

It's all bout the squittlez..

 

[Angus Robinson]

The way I see it is there's a small difference between downtempo breaks and trip hop. Both use a breakbeat, and both are around the same speed.

But downtempo breaks use harder, funkier beats as well as the occassional hip hop sample.

Trip hop, on the other hand, is more 'trippy' and less dancefloor-oriented. Think of trip hop as loungey downtempo breaks. Oftentimes it can be jazzy or ambient or even experimental sounding. In trip hop, the emphasis is on creating an interesting beat, rather than a super funky beat.

I would consider Chu's new disc downtempo breaks and not trip hop.

Some examples of trip hop would be The Herbalizer, Thievery Corporation, Tricky, Massive Attack, London Funk Allstars, and all the Om Lounge compilations.

 

[Angus Robinson]

Another good disc to look for if you're into trip hop is Peace Orchestra's self-titled disc. Peace Orchestra is Peter Kruder's (of Kruder & Dorfmeister) side project...

Really nice stuff!

 

[kprior]

If you want a good jazzy drum 'n Bass compilation try looking for Kruder and Dorfmeister Converstions.

Also for a good mixture of jazzy trip hop as well as jazzy Drum 'n Bass try finding the compliation Kruder and Dorfmeister -Dj Kicks
that is some serious sound.

Also look around for comp's by the arists named Rae and Christian they are really "downtempoy" more hip hop oriented, they are dope, London based lads that know there shit when it comes to the downtempo.

Try those, tell me what you think...

peace
kp

 

[Sugar D]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kprior:


Also look around for comp's by the arists named Rae and Christian they are really "downtempoy" more hip hop oriented, they are dope, London based lads that know there shit when it comes to the downtempo.

kp</font>

hmmmm... where did you get that disc??

 

[Barrie Breaker]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DJ Madhatter:
I would consider Chu's new disc downtempo breaks and not trip hop.

Some examples of trip hop would be The Herbalizer, Thievery Corporation, Tricky, Massive Attack, London Funk Allstars, and all the Om Lounge compilations.</font>

Angus,

You couldn't have explained it more eloquently! I think this cleared it up completely and it makes sense. Thanks to kprior as well. My roommate works at HMV so I think I'll see if he can pick me up some of the suggested music. Thanks all.

 

[Colm]

im surprised some older heads didnt name these; Nightmares on Wax, Stereo MC's, Rockers HiFi, Boards of Canada, Kid Loco... those are just a few.