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Weed dispensaries are everywhere!!!

Littlest Hobo

TRIBE Member
here it is:

Toronto’s public health boss, meanwhile, wants strict federal rules on the sale and use of recreational marijuana when it becomes legal.

“Designing a regulatory approach for non-medical cannabis is complex,” Dr. David McKeown, the medical officer of health, said in a statement with a report released Wednesday.

“We are therefore urging the federal government to use an evidence-based public health approach that builds on the lessons learned from regulating tobacco and alcohol. This approach will help reduce potential health harms for the population as a whole.”

McKeown argues that, along with therapeutic benefits, marijuana can have health hazards including: the risk of impaired driving; exposure to cancer-causing chemicals; poor respiratory health; mental health impacts from “frequent and heavy use”; and impacts on adolescent brain development.

He wants Toronto’s health board to urge federal Health Minister Jane Philpott to ensure “strong government regulatory control” on: recreational marijuana’s availability; a minimum purchasing age; rules to minimize its promotion; strong impaired-driving policies; and restrictions on smoking pot in public places.[/url]


Huh I was right before I read the article.
 
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Littlest Hobo

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As usual, the city will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Tory will lose my vote (and a probably a bunch of others) if he's going down this path. Civil forfeitures American-style.
 

praktik

TRIBE Member
Yknow we're about to get legal weed people - its a celebration bitches!!

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praktik

TRIBE Member
I'd be ok with rules on its promotion/marketing.

When will we begin curtailing advertising on a much more harmful product, alcohol?

Whatever we decide on pot if we're arguing that due to harm caused we should have marketing restrictions, then we must, to stay logically consistent - constrain alcohol marketing even further than we would for pot.
 

I_bRAD

TRIBE Member
Its a process people!

We're gonna be tinkering on this legislation a long time before we get the right balance.

We'll spend billions to set it up and it will almost be working when the Conservatives repeal the law after they win the next election!
 
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praktik

TRIBE Member
Harper was also out of step with much of the base and many of his own MPs

There's a very good chance the next Conservative leader will be on-side with the end of Prohibition.

Running as a Return-To-Prohibition candidate instantly causes a lot of brand/image problems for what will be a younger leader likely to want to chart something of a more modern course.

Harper was a throwback to 1989 really. Its pretty much due to him alone that we are so late on legalizing. Under the libs we would have been doing this 10 years ago.
 

Littlest Hobo

TRIBE Member
Hopefully someone will develop a strain that products excellent herb without crazy lighting setups or complex growing methods. Plant a seed in a pot like any other plant and we're off to the races.
 

janiecakes

TRIBE Member
The only thing they should say is "19+ please". It may say 'please do this' but there will be more, there always is. They will recommend where shops can be, the creation of some sort of oversight board (more public service jobs), restrictions on types and strengths of products, who can sell it, "socially responsible pricing" a la LCBO, hours of selling and bunch of stuff I have not even considered.

Saying nothing other than "19+ please" would be irresponsible as a public health agency, whether you and I agree with that or not (I am extremely pro-legalization/decriminalization). I don't believe TPH would have jurisdiction over what you're mentioning in this comment in any case. The City is not one giant monolithic black hole of incompetence.

Anyway clearly we're coming at this from different perspectives. I see it as a huge positive that a government public health agency is urging another branch of government to make these decisions using a harm reduction lens, as opposed to prohibition/enforcement. I also see it as a positive that they're urging research on occasional use because you and I both know the outcome of that is going to be "it's all good - have fun." And you're coming from the oh god no more nanny state, everything the government does is garbage perspective. Which, ok, but we're pretty much just talking past each other.
 

praktik

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And you're coming from the oh god no more nanny state, everything the government does is garbage perspective.

Ya you put your finger on it - its the rebaked reverse-Midas theory of government that has been animating a certain brand of politics for the past few decades, this being the theory that everything the government touches turns to shit.

Well that was certainly the case with the prohibition of marijuana - a clear disaster of a policy.

So let's recognize when past errors are being corrected, and not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
 
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Littlest Hobo

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And you're coming from the oh god no more nanny state, everything the government does is garbage perspective.

No, the government does a pretty good job with health care.

When it comes to matter of 'fun' the government obfuscates the issue. Look at selling booze. We could have beer and wine in every corner store tomorrow if we wanted to but it the government makes it so complicated. We are on the ground floor of something pretty cool but the government will make doing business so difficult. We are going to wind up with an LCBO-like model, rather than being able to grow your own pot and open your own store, and it will stay that way forever.
 
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alexd

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Staff member
I was in Kensington Market today, and one of the weed shops had a lineup of around 30 people standing outside, on the stairs and all the way to the street. I guess with the impending shutdowns, people must be stocking up. All the people in the line up were healthy looking dudes in their early 20's.

I also wondered, if this place was actually for medical Marijuana, shouldn't it be wheelchair accessible? I pictured some dude in a wheelchair battling his way up the stairs past thirty 20 year olds to get his pain medication...
 

praktik

TRIBE Member
Hey I had a back problem all through my 20s and people were always surprised to find out.

Besides, don't be surprised when you make only one legal outlet for a super high demand product that people do what they can to fit the mold the law made for them to access it.
 

praktik

TRIBE Member
Hey I had a back problem all through my 20s and people were always surprised to find out.

Besides, don't be surprised when you make only one legal outlet for a super high demand product that people do what they can to fit the mold the law made for them to access it.
 

praktik

TRIBE Member
And you know - it does have a pretty wide spectrum of applications for aches and pains.

I dunno like couldn't everyone keep some weed handy for "one of those days"?
 
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praktik

TRIBE Member
Picked up first dispensary bud through a friend.

Nice quality! Like the convenience factor. Will stay loyal to my dealer a while longer
 

alexd

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Staff member
Pharmacists want to get in on the action (and collect dispensing fees)

Why pharmacists should be dispensing medical marijuana
PHIL EMBERLEY
Contributed to The Globe and Mail

Published Monday, May 23, 2016 8:00AM EDT


Phil Emberley is the director of professional affairs for the Canadian Pharmacists Association (CPhA). He has been a practising pharmacist for almost 30 years.

Suppose you take three medications for three different conditions. Now, add medical marijuana. Wouldn’t you want to know possible risks and interactions?

That’s why the Canadian Pharmacists Association (CPhA) recently recommended that pharmacists play a front-line role in patient management and dispensing of medical marijuana.

More patients are choosing medical marijuana as a treatment. As it stands today, many may be at risk by not receiving the same counsel and oversight provided for other drugs. For many patients, medical marijuana is a third or fourth line treatment, and these patients are often on a number of other medications. The potential for drug interactions increases and the need for pharmacist oversight becomes even more important.

As an association, our decision to update our policy position was not taken lightly. We remain concerned with the lack of robust clinical evidence needed to develop appropriate therapeutic guidelines for medical marijuana and to fully integrate it into existing drug schedules.

We represent thousands of pharmacists across Canada – all playing a critical role in the health and safety of Canadians. CPhA’s decision is about safety and responding to the need for appropriate oversight by health care professionals. CPhA consulted its membership and Canadians, and commissioned independent third party research on how best to enhance patient safety with respect to medical marijuana.

We followed the evolving political and social landscape, and the pressures associated with the gap between legal access to medical marijuana and illegal, unregulated access. All roads pointed in the same direction, leading CPhA to take a stand on the issue and respond responsibly to the evolving needs of Canadians.

In a national survey by Abacus Data, 73 per cent of Canadians surveyed agreed that medical marijuana should be treated like other medicines and available only through a pharmacy; and 77 per cent agreed that patient safety and oversight would improve if medical marijuana was available through a pharmacy.

Furthermore, it has been reported that only 8 per cent of Canadians using marijuana for medical purposes obtain it through legal channels. This means the majority of those using medical marijuana are either growing it at home or, more likely, obtaining it from illicit market, where quality and safety measures are unclear. We are deeply concerned about the proliferation of these so-called medical marijuana dispensaries that are illegally providing health care advice to thousands of Canadians – this cannot be allowed to continue.

As experts in medication management, pharmacists have a vast network of existing infrastructure. We work with controlled substances daily and have a proven ability to secure the supply chain ensuring the safety and security of the products we dispense.

We’re acutely aware of the unintended consequences of medication, potential harms inherent with this product and others that Canadians may be using as part of their drug therapy regime.

We provide an unbiased perspective and act in the best interest of patients. We serve as their most accessible point of contact with the health care system – before and after they’ve met with their doctors.

Equipped to ask and answer questions, we are natural partners in a patient-focused framework for dispensing and managing medical marijuana. The involvement of pharmacy enables the government and health care professional to better understand and gather evidence on the clinical effectiveness of medical marijuana which is vital to informing the development of clinical guidelines and refining Canada’s longer-term medical marijuana policy.

It is essential that prescribed therapeutic products, presenting the possibility of drug interaction and other risks, are managed by regulated professionals. Patient safety should be the primary consideration and, as such, pharmacists must play a front-line role in ensuring the safe and effective use of medical marijuana.

Why pharmacists should be dispensing medical marijuana - The Globe and Mail
 
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