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Trump Presidency

You're such a fucking shill. Obama stopped it too right? How the fuck are you blaming Trump for the Clinton machine? Trump has turned your mind to mush. Have some self awareness.

That deep state that's a 'conspiracy' that you now complain about Trump not stopping. You love embarrassing yourself don't you?
Whataboutism - you know, the thing you said you don't do. Twice in one post.

What's that about self awareness in this post?
 
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spaboy

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The go to line for any racist.

It's not a fact. It's a distorted image of a person turned into boogeyman go to for racists and anti semites like yourself. A dogwhistle that you always respond to.

Thanks for proving me right spazboy. Again.
FACTS ARE RACIST!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEE. Does it hurt being this stupid? What that I said about Soros isn't fact?
 

praktik

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Weaponizing the top levels of law enforcement to attack citizens is literally the definition of fascism
*citation needed*

This is most definitely NOT the definition of fascism. Most charitably it could be perhaps described as *one single element* of a broader definition of fascism rooted in much more important things, let me offer you what political science and historians recognize as fascism:

In a historical sense, fascism is maybe best understood as an extreme reaction against socialism and communism; in its early years it was essentially defined as “extremist anti-communism.” There were very few attempts to systematize the ideology of fascism, though some existed (see, e.g. Giovanni Gentile’s 1932 text, The Philosophical Basis of Fascism). But its spirit was better expressed in an inchoate rant like Mein Kampf. It was explicitly anti-democratic, anti-liberal, and corporatist, and it endorsed violence as a chief means to its ends. It was also, obviously, authoritarian, but claiming that it was oriented toward “socialism” is just crudely ahistorical, if not outrageously revisionist. Socialists, let’s not forget, were among the first people imprisoned and “liquidated” by the Nazi regime
Chip Berlet has this definition:

Fascism demands racial, ethnic, or cultural unity and the collective rebirth of a nation while seeking to purge demonized enemies that are often scapegoated as subversive and parasitic. Fascism is a form of authoritarian ultra-nationalism that glorifies action, violence, and a militarized culture. Fascism can exist as an ideology, a mass movement, or a form of state government. Fascism attacks both liberal democratic pluralism and left-wing revolutionary movements while proposing a totalitarian version of populist mass politics. Fascism parasitizes other ideologies, juggles many internal tensions and contradictions, and produces chameleon-like adaptations based on the specific historic symbols, icons, slogans, traditions, myths, and heroes of the society it wishes to mobilize.
Probably the most concise definition comes from Oxford political-science professor Roger Griffin , who calls it “palingenetic ultranationalistic populism”. In one key essay, Griffin offers the following definition:

Fascism: modern political ideology that seeks to regenerate the social, economic, and cultural life of a country by basing it on a heightened sense of national belonging or ethnic identity. Fascism rejects liberal ideas such as freedom and individual rights, and often presses for the destruction of elections, legislatures, and other elements of democracy. Despite the idealistic goals of fascism, attempts to build fascist societies have led to wars and persecutions that caused millions of deaths. As a result, fascism is strongly associated with right-wing fanaticism, racism, totalitarianism, and violence.
According to Italian political theorist Emilio Gentile (mentioned above), who studied the totalitarian movements of interwar Europe, this sacralisation takes place when:

. . . more or less elaborately and dogmatically, a political movement confers a sacred status on an earthly entity (the nation, the country, the state, humanity, society, race, proletariat, history, liberty, or revolution) and renders it an absolute principle of collective existence, considers it the main source of values for individual and mass behaviour, and exalts it as the supreme ethical precept of public life.

This imparts to fascism a particular trait that Paxton describes as one of the real telltale signs of its presence:

. . . [E]ach national variant of fascism draws its legitimacy, as we shall see, not from some universal scripture but from what it considers the most authentic elements of its own community identity. Religion, for example, would certainly play a much larger role in an authentic fascism in the United States than in the first European fascisms, which were pagan for contingent historical reasons
Robert Paxton crystallizes all this in one of the more widely recognized and used definitions of fascism:

To focus only on the educated carriers of intellect and culture in the search for fascist roots, furthermore, is to miss the most important register: subterranean passions and emotions. A nebula of attitudes was taking shape, and no one thinker ever put together a total philosophical system to support fascism. Even scholars who specialize in the quest for fascism’s intellectual and cultural origins, such as George Mosse, declare that the establishment of a “mood” is more important than “the search for some individual precursors.” In that sense, too, fascism is more plausibly linked to a set of “mobilizing passions” that shape fascist action than to a consistent and fully articulated philosophy. At bottom is a passionate nationalism. Allied to it is a conspiratorial and Manichean view of history as a battle between the good and evil camps, between the pure and the corrupt, in which one’s own chosen community or nation has been the victim. In this Darwinian narrative, the chosen people have been weakened by political parties, social classes, unassimilable minorities, spoiled renters, and rationalist thinkers who lack the necessary sense of community.​
These “mobilizing passions,” mostly taken for granted and not always overtly argued as intellectual propositions, form the emotional lava that set fascism’s foundations:​
• a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond the reach of any traditional solutions;​
• the primacy of the group, toward which one has duties superior to every right, whether universal or individual, and the subordination of the individual to it;​
• the belief that one’s group is a victim, a sentiment which justifies any action, without legal or moral limits, against the group’s enemies, both internal and external;​
• dread of the group’s decline under the corrosive effect of individualistic liberalism, class conflict, and alien influences;​
• the need for closer integration of a purer community, by consent if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary;​
• the need for authority by natural leaders (always male), culminating in a national chief who alone is capable of incarnating the group’s destiny;​
• the superiority of the leader’s instincts over abstract and universal reason;​
• the beauty of violence and the efficacy of will, when they are devoted to the group’s success;​
• the right of the chosen people to dominate others without restraint from any kind of human or divine law, right being decided by the sole criterion of the group’s prowess in a Darwinian struggle.​
So no, spaboy, that is literally NOT a complete definition of fascism - fascism doesn't just mean "government using force against the people" and you would do well to stop asserting that.
 
still waiting on an example. IT's really easy to beat you guys in a debate. I just have to ask you questions and you melt down in stupidity.
Lol, says the guy posting angrily at 1am, with no clue of what he's talking about, while trying to change the subject.

Funny how you only used the term self awareness after someone else brought it up here and are completely oblivious to it's meaning. Kind of a pattern with you.
 
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LoL @ citation. The fucking guy only ever has one move, all things lead to the Illuminati pulling strings and Trump's always the victim/more or less an angel, lirl muh butthurtz Iz real
Spaz seeing a lot of himself in Trump, no doubt.

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FACTS ARE RACIST!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEE. Does it hurt being this stupid? What that I said about Soros isn't fact?
This was typed in the calmest of mindsets I'm sure.

He's pissed.
 

Mondieu

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FACTS ARE RACIST!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEE. Does it hurt being this stupid? What that I said about Soros isn't fact?
1. Soros chose to become a NAZI collaborator at 13 years old.

2. Soros is funding Antifa as a means of undermining democracy.

Pony up your sources and considered background information. One-liners are for the daft. You’re beating this like a dead horse and you haven’t offered a single, reliable source that validates the spin you’re barfing up.

There's a reason for that though. You can’t. Not just because you’re incapable but also because said reliable sources don’t exist.

You ingest hack-nonsense (You are what you eat!) and then - instead of taking your “research” a step further for confirmation, you just roll with it, spout it back out like a fucking toddler and then double-down when you’re called out on it.

Sources, bitch.

Garbage in, garbage out.
 

wickedken

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He was clearly focusing on Omar. Everyone leaves out the fact he said come back. Come back when you fix your own country and show us how it's done. One would think a racist would just say GTFO. Context.
Yes he clearly focused on Omar because he had racist intentions. The context is that he acted on assumptions based on preconceived notions about a persons appearance or place of birth. That's actual defined racism.

Commenting about "fixing your own country" "before you come back" adds to the racist context since Trump acknowledges that he didn't know where Omar (or any of the Squad) came from. So where exactly was Trump suggesting Omar go fix before coming back?

(Here's the link again: Theresa May condemns Donald Trump over tweet in unprecedented attack. )
 
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Bernnie Federko

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Mister America, everybody:

President Trump has sent highly unusual, Sharpie-written notes to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at least twice, Axios has learned. One missive was so odd, the Canadian ambassador double-checked with the White House to be sure it wasn't a prank.
In at least one instance, Trudeau also wrote to Trump. The exchange of handwritten notes, never before reported, was confirmed by several sources with firsthand knowledge. The diplomatic missives include:
  • A torn-out Bloomberg Businessweek cover featuring a portrait of Justin Trudeau.
  • A back-and-forth about U.S.-Canada trade figures that culminated in Trudeau sending Trump a printout of the website of the Office of the United States Trade Representative with a smiley face beside the U.S. government figure showing America has a trade surplus with Canada (contrary to Trump's claims).
Context: The May 1–7, 2017, issue of Bloomberg Businessweek — featuring a picture of Trudeau headlined "The Anti-Trump" — caught President Trump's attention, according to 4 sources with direct knowledge. Trump tore the cover off the magazine and wrote on it, in silver Sharpie, something to the effect of "Looking good! Hope it's not true!" according to these sources.
  • Before the White House mailed this diplomatic correspondence, it went through the normal clearance process inside the National Security Council. While some White House staff thought it was not the appropriate way to communicate with a foreign leader, they ultimately figured "it was done in good fun and would be interpreted as positive outreach," said a source with direct knowledge of what happened. So the White House mailed the magazine cover to the Canadian Embassy in Washington.
  • The Canadian ambassador thought it was a prank, according to 2 sources familiar with the situation. He called the White House to check, and a White House official confirmed to the ambassador that the note was real, one of these sources said.
Months later, on Dec. 8, 2017, President Trump falsely told a rally crowd in Pensacola, Florida, that the U.S. has a trade deficit with Canada. Around that same time, Trump also mailed Trudeau a document purporting to show that the U.S. had a trade deficit with Canada, according to a source with direct knowledge.
  • Trump wrote in Sharpie on the document: "Not good!!" or something to that effect, the source recalled. Trump's document only mentioned America's deficit in the trade of goods and ignored its surplus in services (the two combined would gave the U.S. its overall surplus).
A few weeks later, Trump received a handwritten letter from Trudeau. The note, on Trudeau's official stationery marked by the Maple Leaf, began with a friendly tone, but ended with a drop of acid.
  • "Dear Donald," Trudeau wrote in the letter dated Dec. 20, 2017, according to a source with direct knowledge of its contents, which 2 other sources confirmed. "It's been a busy year! Enjoy the Christmas holidays — you deserve it."
  • "One thing," Trudeau added. "You gave a great speech in Pensacola, but you were slightly off on the balance of trade with Canada. USTR says so! All the best for 2018, Justin."
The second page of the letter brought the kicker. Trudeau enclosed a printout of Canada's informational page from the website of the Office of the United States Trade Representative.
  • Trudeau underlined the section on the USTR website, which at the time reported that "the U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $12.5 billion in 2016." Trudeau circled the $12.5 billion and drew a cheeky little smiley face next to it, according to a source with direct knowledge.
A Canadian government official responded to this reporting: "We're not going to comment on whether or what paper was exchanged between our 2 countries. There was a lot of back and forth. That said, it is certainly true that there were disagreements between our 2 countries about the figures, and we repeatedly pointed to USTR and U.S. Commerce's own figures. On your second point (the Bloomberg cover), no comment, but we don't deny it."
Go deeper: Read my full story on the Trump-Trudeau relationship and how it fits into the bigger picture of the president's foreign relations in Year 3.
 

spaboy

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Yes he clearly focused on Omar because he had racist intentions. The context is that he acted on assumptions based on preconceived notions about a persons appearance or place of birth. That's actual defined racism.

Commenting about "fixing your own country" "before you come back" adds to the racist context since Trump acknowledges that he didn't know where Omar (or any of the Squad) came from. So where exactly was Trump suggesting Omar go fix before coming back?

(Here's the link again: Theresa May condemns Donald Trump over tweet in unprecedented attack. )
No. She's no stranger. He knows exactly who she is and where she's from. Pretty public figure. And very anti-Israel to boot but tell me more about ant-semitism. You guys have to reach soooo hard to try and make up racism.
 

Bernnie Federko

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Donny America should be scared. If Hillary and/or The Queen can just do a high profile motherfucker like Epstein in front of everybody, then who's to say they won't JFK him and his whole family in or out of office?

Am I doing this rite...?
 

wickedken

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No. She's no stranger. He knows exactly who she is and where she's from. Pretty public figure. And very anti-Israel to boot but tell me more about ant-semitism. You guys have to reach soooo hard to try and make up racism.
You'd have to talk to the "libtards" at the Independent for their Trump quote then. Hey, if you've got a link to disprove share it.

On second thought don't bother.
 

Mondieu

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No. She's no stranger. He knows exactly who she is and where she's from. Pretty public figure. And very anti-Israel to boot but tell me more about ant-semitism. You guys have to reach soooo hard to try and make up racism.
I can reach the veiled racism of most Trumplodytes without even extending my arm far enough to slap them in their weak-minded, broke-ass, unemployable, self-pitying, ignorant fucking mugs.

It would be much clearer if they had the balls to pony-up and own their actual feelings, rather than starting their pissant diatribes with things like, “I’m not racist but...”.

The only try-hard around here is you, kiddo. ...and from near EVERYTHING you’ve posted here, you fit that Trumplodyte mould to a tee.

I don’t know when you gave up on life in the real world and decided that the Internet was enough. ...but - if you look back - I’m sure you’ll find that THAT was the point where you entered the rabbit-hole and became the unintelligible Shitstain that we know today.
 
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