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Trump Presidency

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by Bernnie Federko, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Ya butt I ordered a travel mug from Amazon this morning and it already was delivered to my house so... Let them eat caek?
  2. Mondieu

    Mondieu TRIBE Member

    Hillary has been cleared via multiple investigations. Trump is still the target of multiple investigations. When it was “innocent until proven guilty” for her, they cried “Lock her up”. When the orange clown is under the microscope, they call it a “witch-hunt” and demand that the investigations be shut down.

    ...and before Shit-stain comes in with another baseless comment about my support for Clinton, let’s be clear. I don’t like her and - were I American - I wouldn’t have voted for her. I would have voted for Sanders, in a second (Yeah - dirty fucking socialist, lol!). I simply can’t find an example to support the notion that Hillary ever called for an end to the investigations that focused on her own actions. Not a single one.

    Shit-stain and his ilk get their audacity and self-immolating sense of righteousness from this fucking hypocritical, flea-bag, ball-washing clown...

    Hannity: "Hillary should be in jail." Also Hannity: Locking up Trump would be "beyond despicable."
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  3. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    You know what it is...

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  4. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    What "cleared" are you talking about? There are so many continuing questions about each of Clinton and Trump.
  5. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    "on the one hand, on the other hand" - it's a disease
  6. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    On the one, fuck the moon! On the other Mars (including the moon)¡
  7. ndrwrld

    ndrwrld TRIBE Member

    Marspie...Moonpie. Same shit.
  8. Mondieu

    Mondieu TRIBE Member

    If Trump’s been exonerated - and that’s the game that shit-stains wanna play - so has Hillary. It’s in the record. You don’t need to ask me for clarification. You can look it up. Here are the basic facts...

    On June 14, 2018, the Department of Justice's Office of the Inspector General released its report on the FBI's and DOJ's handling of Clinton's investigation, finding no evidence of political bias and lending support for the decision to not prosecute Clinton.

    The investigation found no wrong-doing. Case closed, right? One set of rules for everyone, shall we?
  9. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Trump announced on Twitter that tariffs against Mexican goods were "indefinitely suspended" following Mexico's agreement to take stronger measures to curb immigration. Go deeper.
  10. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    It's still kind of apples and oranges since the investigation into Trump not only found wrongdoing where they didn't on Hillary, a bunch of people are in jail. Zero of Hillary's people are in jail

    Also there are about 20 or so spinoff investigations into Trump World crimes

    No such constellation of potential crimes exist in the Clinton case and no other investigative activity was spawned that lead to the indictment of any other ClintonWorld people based on the email server investigation. The investigative effort ended pretty much on the day quoted in your post Mondieu!

    Mueller handed in his report and there was still plenty of investigative effort ongoing, with some *trials* actually happening simultaneous to reports issuance.
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  11. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

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  12. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Oh and made up fucking shit doesn't count:

    Uranium One
    Clinton Body Count

    All 100% fabricated
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  13. Mondieu

    Mondieu TRIBE Member

    ...but you can’t argue with stupid.
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  14. Mondieu

    Mondieu TRIBE Member

    A very stable genius.


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  15. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

  16. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    no wrong-doing=not unreasonable

    >Nonetheless, these messages cast a cloud over the FBI’s handling of the Midyear investigation and the investigation’s credibility. But our review did not find evidence to connect the political views expressed in these messages to the specific investigative decisions that we reviewed; rather, consistent with the analytic approach described above, we found that these specific decisions were the result of discretionary judgments made during the course of an investigation by the Midyear agents and prosecutors and that these judgment calls were not unreasonable. The broader impact of these text and instant messages, including on such matters as the public perception of the FBI and the Midyear investigation, are discussed in Chapter Twelve of our report.
  17. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    The immigration agreement imposed on Mexico by Donald Trump under the threat of punitive tariffs is a victory for “hostage-taking” over international rules, a former head of the World Trade Organization (WTO) said on Saturday.

    Trump faces critics over Mexico deal called 'hostage-taking' by ex-WTO chief
  18. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Business "freak out" spurs plans to tame Trump on trade
    Illustration: Aïda Amer/Axios

    President Trump has threatened and bludgeoned his way into an unwanted confrontation with the U.S. business community that could have far-reaching implications for the future of presidential power over trade.

    • Trump's blunt use of presidential leverage to force the Mexican government to harden its immigration enforcement appears to have caused an unintended side effect: U.S. business leaders have begun urgently discussing strategies to claw back the virtually unchecked trade powers that Congress has handed over to presidents during the past 80 years.
    The big picture: Even though the business community is now breathing a sigh of relief that Trump won't be hitting Mexico with new tariffs, the last week of Trump's threats may have a longer lasting effect, according to industry sources who have met with corporate representatives in Washington, leaders of business associations, administration officials, members of Congress and their senior staff.

    • Trump's threat to impose rising tariffs on all Mexican goods to punish the Mexican government for soft immigration enforcement sparked a widespread panic in the U.S. business community and turned their conversations in an unprecedented direction, these sources said.
    • John Murphy, who runs international policy at the Chamber of Commerce, tweeted, "In the space of a few hours ... more than 140 business and agricultural associations signed this statementopposing tariffs on goods from Mexico."
    • "Maybe folks in the White House don't know this, but they freaked out a lot of people," a trade lawyer involved in these conversations told me.
    "This is a real turning point because this is threatening tariffs using an emergency power," said another top industry source involved. "That's never been done before. Part of the resources that we want to direct our advocacy to ... is for Congress to take back authority over tariffs."

    • "We can get back on USMCA and try to pass the thing and we can all be hunky-dory, but I think you're going to see a longer term business community effort to help Congress reassert its authority on tariffs."
    • Legislation could go so far as requiring congressional approval of most presidential trade actions. (We're already seeing some efforts along these lines, led by Republican Sens. Chuck Grassley and Pat Toomey.)
    Behind the scenes:Before Trump called off his tariffs on Friday night, a loose coalition of organizations supporting Trump's renegotiated NAFTA, the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement, were discussing halting a multimillion-dollar campaign to support the passage of USMCA.

    • Instead, these business lobby groups and leaders of large corporations were discussing redirecting their money toward opposing Trump's tariffs and potentially to support efforts to claw back the president's trade powers, according to sources familiar with their internal discussions.
    • They will now return to funding a USMCA campaign, but the past week has shown them that they need to finally get serious about stopping this president — and future presidents — from unilaterally raising tariffs.
    Why it matters: Trump can only credibly threaten foreign countries with abrupt tariffs because Congress has gradually given away its trade powers. Opponents of this trend say it's unconstitutional because taxing and commerce authority lies with Congress (as expressed in Article 1 of the Constitution).

    • Until fairly recently, only a wonky fringe in Washington cared about this issue. Few paid attention when Republican Sen. Mike Lee introduced legislation in early 2017 to "subject all executive branch trade actions (including raising tariffs) to congressional approval."
    The bottom line: Over the past week, these previously fringy conversations entered the mainstream. Watch for a long-term, well-funded campaign to peel trade powers away from the president
  19. ndrwrld

    ndrwrld TRIBE Member

  20. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Trump's re-election crisis
    Yesterday’s Iowa split screen: Trump in Council Bluffs, Biden in Ottumwa. Photos: Nati Harnik/AP; Matthew Putney/AP
    Everywhere he looks, President Trump can see flashing warnings that his re-election is in serious peril, a week ahead of his official campaign launch next Tuesday in Orlando:

    Why it matters: Trump should be crushing it. Unemployment is at a near-historic low. The economy is growing. Peace and prosperity abound. But his numbers are sagging.

    The warning signs:

    • The N.Y. Times reported: "After being briefed on a devastating 17-state poll conducted by his campaign pollster, Tony Fabrizio, Mr. Trump told aides to deny that his internal polling showed him trailing Mr. Biden in many of the states he needs to win. ... Trump instructed aides to say publicly that other data showed him doing well."
    • National Journal's Josh Kraushaar writes (subscription)that Trump is "in the weakest political shape of any sitting president since George H.W Bush": "Trump hits 50 percent disapproval ... in North Carolina, Arizona, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Iowa — all states he carried in 2016."
    • Pay little attention to national polls in a race where states are what matters. But as a sign of voter mood, six Democrats (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg and Booker) each beat Trump in the first 2o2o Quinnipiac University National Poll, released yesterday.
    The other side ... A Trump ally familiar with the campaign's strategy said: "Trump has alwaysunder-polled. Until it's actually a binary contest, though, these polls really don't matter."

    • "Educating voters on what Green New Deal and Medicare for All actually mean = an absolute disaster for Democrats."
    • "When Trump gets a shot at defining someone one-on-one, they're no longer going to be what they are now, which is for the most part a 'generic Democrat.'"
    • "Historical data says that with the economy roaring like it is, the incumbent always wins."
    Be smart: Trump is betting polls will swing when it's a choice between him and someone he can lampoon as a dumb socialist.

    • But, but, but: Even the self-avowed socialists are beating him — Bernie Sanders is up 12 in Michigan.
    The bottom line: The 2018 elections were a wake-up call for Trump. Democrats had record turnout; his Midwest presidency-makers of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania reverted to their Democratic form; and conservative states, including Texas, showed the demographic dangers for the GOP.

  21. Mondieu

    Mondieu TRIBE Member

    Where’s Shit-stain on this?

    POTUS and those who buys this verifiably daft kool-aid are complete fucking clowns.

    Strange, strange times.

  22. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Birther Prez said "in all fairness to Obama" in one turn of phrase on NK today.

    Pretty rich
  23. SneakyPete

    SneakyPete TRIBE Member

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    praktik TRIBE Member

  25. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

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