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Trump Presidency

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by Bernnie Federko, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. ndrwrld

    ndrwrld TRIBE Member

  2. ndrwrld

    ndrwrld TRIBE Member

  3. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  4. derek

    derek TRIBE Member

  5. Mondieu

    Mondieu TRIBE Member

  6. The Kid

    The Kid TRIBE Member

  7. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Trump is pulling a Cheney on Intelligence:

    ‘Cooking’ and Ignoring Intelligence on Iran
    Posted on February 3, 2019, 2:10 PM Daniel Larison

    The president’s interview on Face the Nation this morning contained some remarkable revisionism on his part on the Iraq war:

    MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to move on here but I should say your intel chiefs do say Iran’s abiding by that nuclear deal. I know you think it’s a bad deal, but–

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I disagree with them. I’m- I’m- by the way–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: You disagree with that assessment?

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: –I have intel people, but that doesn’t mean I have to agree. President Bush had intel people that said Saddam Hussein–


    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: –in Iraq had nuclear weapons- had all sorts of weapons of mass destruction. Guess what? Those intel people didn’t know what the hell they were doing, and they got us tied up in a war that we should have never been in. And we’ve spent seven trillion dollars in the Middle East and we have lost lives–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you trust your national security adviser John Bolton because he worked in the Bush administration?

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I do, and I respect John and John is not one of the people that happened to be testifying or on.​

    Trump’s belated criticism of the Iraq war was one of the things that seemed to set him apart from most other Republican candidates on foreign policy during the 2016 primaries, so it is telling that he is now regurgitating the pro-war dead-ender narrative that “faulty intelligence” was to blame for the war. No doubt that is thanks in no small part to Bolton, who remains as supportive of the Iraq war now as he was sixteen years ago. Few people have less credibility on matters of nonproliferation and disarmament than Bolton, so of course Trump trusts him above everyone else. No wonder the president is shredding every nonproliferation and arms control agreement we have left.

    The Bush administration manipulated, cherry-picked, and misrepresented the intelligence they received to build a case for invasion and regime change that the evidence never supported. It was not “the intel people” who claimed Saddam Hussein had or would soon have nuclear weapons. Dick Cheney and Condi “Smoking Gun in the Form of a Mushroom Cloud” Rice were chief among those responsible for promoting that particular lie. Bolton was and still is one of the biggest supporters of the war and the distortions and lies that led to it. Now Bolton and Trump are seeking to the do same with Iran by spreading lies that Iran has “nuclear ambitions” and will have nuclear weapons within a decade. Once again, it is the president and his appointees who are to blame for terrible policy decisions that Trump has made by ignoring the evidence.

    Nicholas Miller makes the same observation:

    Trump is publicly casting doubt on the assessment of the nuclear deal in order to defend his terrible decision to withdraw from the JCPOA last year, but he also wants to create the impression that Iran is in violation of the agreement to justify his bankrupt policy towards Iran now. Because Iran has committed no violations on the JCPOA, Trump just pretends that they exist and ignores the mountain of evidence that says he is wrong. Trump isn’t even bothering to “cook” the intelligence he receives. He just dismisses it and chooses to believe in his fantasy instead.
  8. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Does anyone know where I can get some yellow cake for my Persian friends?

    I want Vince Vaughan to portray Trump in the movie about his presidency.
  9. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    His comment about needing to keep a base in Iraq 'to keep an eye on Iran' was pretty telling. Also, news to the Iraqi government!
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  10. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Iraqis be like, uhhhhh we can keep an eye on em they're coming over for dinner next Thursday!!
  11. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

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  12. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Also - we are allied with Al Qaeda in Yemen.

    Just saying
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  13. derek

    derek TRIBE Member

    Canadian I knew; gender I did not. In fairness I call girls 'dude' too. Irks my wife sometimes but I can't help it

    As stated before regardless of the outcome of Mueller's investigation. Trump and family will be in court for a long time when gimpy get voted out, impeached or implodes from all the added weight those spray tan applications have cumulatively increased his mass to ( and all the hamberders too)

    And always remember it was mail fraud that brought Capone down

    Trump's Legal Problems Might Outlast Robert Mueller's Investigation

    After the end of business on Monday night, because the business of federal prosecutors in this particular political moment never really ends, the good folks in the U.S. Attorney's office for the Southern District of New York dropped the big one. From the Washington Post:

    A wide-ranging subpoena served on the inaugural committee Monday seeks an array of documents, including all information related to inaugural donors, vendors, contractors, bank accounts of the inaugural committee and any information related to foreign contributors to the committee, according to a copy reviewed by The Washington Post. Only U.S. citizens and legal residents can legally donate to a committee established to finance presidential inaugural festivities.

    “We have just received a subpoena for documents. While we are still reviewing the subpoena, it is our intention to cooperate with the inquiry,” a spokesman for the committee said in a statement. The subpoena — issued by the U.S. attorney’s office in the Southern District of New York — indicates that prosecutors are investigating crimes related to conspiracy to defraud the United States, mail fraud, false statements, wire fraud and money laundering.

    As the invaluable Marcy Wheeler has been saying for months, Robert Mueller is handing off various deep dives into the bottomless lagoon of slime and corruption that is this administration* as well as conducting his own investigations. The folks in the Southern District there at the very least clearly believe that the inauguration of the 45th president of the United States to have been an elaborate mechanism for laundering all sorts of money from all sorts of people.

    The inauguration itself was a completely strange affair. It was weird enough that Donald Trump was being sworn in as president*. His inaugural address was a third-rate script from a fourth-rate horror movie. But, beyond that, there was a sense that a powerful and foul undercurrent was running under all the festivities, that some sort of noxious fog was rising from beneath the marble steps and enfolding all the rich—and sparsely attended—ceremonies. There were too many strange, burly men in heavy overcoats. It looked and felt like the Apalachin Conference had convened in an ancient temple.

    And now, here we are. The bills are all coming due. And it appears that the pursuit of the president* by the prosecutors of the Southern District may long outlast Robert Mueller's mandate. It is these people that may be the ones to plumb the corruption of the Trump organization all the way to the bottom of it, and to illuminate all the strands connecting it to the things we all hold in common that are being coined and sold by dishonest men.
  14. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    What kind of people ally with a group on a terror list?
  15. derek

    derek TRIBE Member

    The kind that fund the groups that become future terrorists

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  16. Mondieu

    Mondieu TRIBE Member

    The same kind of people who financed, armed and led to the creation of said terror groups, when it seemed to suit their foreign-policy and pocket-book needs.
  17. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  18. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    President Trump used last night's State of the Union address to lay out themes, policies and symbols for his 2020 re-election race, winning over no Democrats in the chamber but giving new hope to supporters who were turning pessimistic.

    • He softened some edges for his largest audience of the year, but made it clear that he's going to try to re-run many of his 2016 plays in 2020.
    A notable new twist that we'll hear a lot more about on the campaign trail: "Tonight, we renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country."

    • Jason Miller, a top official in Trump's 2016 campaign, told me the president "elevated the wedge issue of 'socialism' in a way nobody else could."
    • Republicans love the freeze frame of Democrats sitting emotionlessly when Trump railed against late-term abortions. And loved even more the endorsement-by-sitting-and-silence when he hammered socialism.
    • A veteran of the last campaign told me Trump is "trying to frame 2020 as a another big, directional election ... betting that [his] people are going to actually like the direction the country is going."
    Trump mixed a hard line on immigration with applause lines on D-Day and criminal justice reform. The WashPost's Dan Balz called it "two speeches in one."

    • The first half, giving Trump-the-showman a warm response in the chamber, included new pushes for nationwide paid family leave and lower drug prices, funding for research into childhood cancer, and a pledge to "defeat AIDS."
    • The second half gave Trump-the-campaigner a 2020 battle plan — calling for a ban on late-term abortion, touting his talks with North Korea and, of course, promising a wall: "I will get it built."
    Be smart ... One of the president's most loyal D.C. supporters texted me about the presidents effort to cloak hard-nosed policies in softer rhetoric:

    • "[T]he Trump we saw tonight ain't the real Trump — and he's not capable of pretending to be someone else for 2 years."
  19. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    The kind of people who are so obsessed with Defeating Iran they go All In with the House of Saud which also wants to Defeat Iran - House of Saud backs Sunni extremists aligned with their pro-Saudi-Pro-Sunni - Anti-Iran/Anti-every-islam-that-isn't-Sunni

    Ergo, US/UK/Canada back Al Qaeda in Yemen, since they are amongst the groups in the coalition and get money and support from the House of Saud, who gets money and support from us.

    Through the property of transferrence, we back Al Qaeda - and its why they are flourishing on the Peninsula now.
  20. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Trump’s Foreign Policy and the 2019 SOTU
    Posted on February 5, 2019, 11:23 PM Daniel Larison

    Trump’s second State of the Union address was not very newsworthy. The president didn’t tell us much about his policies that we didn’t already know, and much of what he told us was wrong or misleading. The foreign policy section was expected to make up a large portion of the speech, but in the end Trump gave it cursory treatment. While it was a relatively short section, it was full of the usual distortions and reckless statements that we have come to expect.

    Trump boasted about throwing more money at the Pentagon and touted his destabilizing decision to withdraw from the INF Treaty. He also celebrated his determination to waste even more money on missile defense technology that doesn’t work. Trump seemed to suggest that the U.S. would spend a lot more on our nuclear arsenal in the future:

    Perhaps we can negotiate a different agreement, adding China and others, or perhaps we can’t –in which case,we will outspend and out-innovate all others by far.​

    This is typical of Trump’s feigned interest in diplomacy. He tears up a successful, existing treaty and then floats the possibility of replacing it with a much more ambitious agreement that will never happen. If his administration can’t even manage to resolve a dispute with Russia as part of a decades-old treaty, what are the chances that they will be able to construct an even larger treaty to take the place of the one they destroyed? Failing the negotiation of this fantastical grand bargain, he threatens a massive arms buildup instead.

    Trump also talked about North Korea diplomacy:

    As part of a bold new diplomacy, we continue our historic push for peace on the Korean Peninsula.​

    The main problem here is that the Trump administration has not been pushing for peace on the peninsula, but has instead been holding inter-Korean rapprochement hostage to a futile disarmament agenda that has gone nowhere for the last eight months. He credited his election with averting a war that no one thought could happen until he was elected and began threatening to start a war.

    The president brought up his decision to interfere in Venezuela’s political crisis, and asserted that he had recognized the “legitimate government” of Venezuela. Leaving aside the weak justification for that recognition, Trump offered no explanation for how his imposition of cruel sanctions advance the Venezuelan people’s “noble quest for freedom,” and he said nothing about what the U.S. is prepared to do if Maduro refuses to yield to international pressure.

    Trump cited recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital as proof of his administration’s “principled realism,” but all that it showed was how deeply in hock to ideologues and hard-liners he is. As if to underscore how unprincipled and unrealistic his foreign policy truly is, Trump then said this about Iran and the nuclear deal:

    To ensure this corrupt dictatorship never acquires nuclear weapons, I withdrew the United States from the disastrous Iran nuclear deal.

    And last fall, we put in place the toughest sanctions ever imposed on a country.​

    The president probably didn’t mean to call attention to how irrational and illegitimate his policies are, but he did that with these words. Withdrawing from the JCPOA undermines one of the most successful nonproliferation agreements, and it is only because that every other party to the agreement has upheld the deal that it has survived the president’s attempt at sabotage. No one who wants to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons would want to weaken or destroy the JCPOA, but Trump has made it one of his top priorities to do just that. To that end, he illegitimately reimposed sanctions that had been lifted as part of the deal in a gross violation of U.S. commitments, and he has the nerve to boast about his bad faith and deal-breaking.

    The theme of Trump’s speech was “choosing greatness,” but in his foreign policy statements he laid out a series of policies that will serve to bankrupt and discredit the U.S.
  21. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  22. derek

    derek TRIBE Member

    AMI fucked themselves big time

    The best part is it was sent by their lawyer which makes you wonder how many people they've extorted that don't have Bezos 'fuck you' cash

    The flood gates are now open, they're in breach of a plea deal, and this could implicate the WH

    The best part is Bezos has basically said I'm busy and have better things to do, so I'm giving my hound (one of the most effective in the world) a blank check to catapult you into the stratosphere
  23. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Bezos' blog post encapsulates this cultural-political moment, The Atlantic's Robinson Meyer writes:

    In a little more than 2,000 words, Bezos seemed to rip every headline out of the newspaper and bind them in an eternal neon braid: the mighty power of billionaires, the immiseration of American journalism, the thin smudge of porniness that smartphones have layered onto reality — all of that, andPresident Donald Trump (who is a close friend of David Pecker, AMI’s chief executive), and the corruption and journalist-murdering malice of the Saudi government, which Bezos alleges is wrapped up in his story "for reasons still to be better understood."
    Bezos once founded the Everything Store; now he has given us the Everything Story.
  24. derek

    derek TRIBE Member

    Gavin de Becker. The hound Bezos gave a blank check. Good luck AMI

    Home - Gavin de Becker and Associates

    Also, he's indicating he believes a government entity may have obtains Bezos' texts
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  25. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    Sounds illegal... unless Bezos is secretly under investigation for something. Can't see the NSA/FBI/DEA/etc doing something illegal to someone likes Bezos.

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