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Torrent warning

sheik rock

TRIBE Member
So I got my first warning for downloading a TV torrent.

How are we avoiding this in future? VPN service or something?
 

praktik

TRIBE Member
Im on a private site - hoping the public torrents are the low hanging fruit. ANyone on a private site get a warning yet?
 

catilyst

TRIBE Member
Sorry to hijack but looks like a good time to ask - If anyone has a private invite please pm me - many thanks - sorry, back to thread.
 

agentRC4

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So I got my first warning for downloading a TV torrent.

How are we avoiding this in future? VPN service or something?
Who is your internet provider? I'm with TechSavvy and have yet to receive a warning.

and I would be happy to accept any invites to a private torrent site.
 

SneakyPete

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How are private torrent sites different than public ones? MPAA or whoever can join just as easily as anybody here.
 

praktik

TRIBE Member
I think its just the effort involved - like the CRA or drug enforcement don't go after everyone right, just the low hanging fruit.

Private torrent sites are like rich white boys doing cocaine in a wealthy suburb - just not targeted (or so we hope).
 

xtcfreak

TRIBE Member
I have two invites.. Pm with email address.

As said previously, torrents are not easy to do anonymously..VPN will slow you down and I don't trust anyones word about not keeping logs.

I am going to ride it out, no letters while using IPT since join date 2009. No encryption or peer blockers being use.
 

KickIT

TRIBE Member
From the IPT forums:

Never were and never will be 'safe', but you can be 'safer' by using https on the site and SSL on the tracker.

If an ISP sniffs the packets going from your computer into the internet then using https and SSL will encrypt the data preventing the ISP from seeing what you are doing.

If an anti-P2P person/company/:shit: loads the torrent file into their client (uTorrent or whatever) then they are given a list of IP's in the swarm (people that are active right now) that have or are downloading from the tracker. The tracker tells them how much you have and if you're seeding. Easy targets. The best way to limit exposure to this is to keep DHT and PX off. This will limit you to the tracker and not broadcast to anyone and everyone that you have/want a torrent.

Private/closed trackers such as IPT are another good way to keep 'out of sight', but it's not completely 'safe'. You can further limit your home IP exposure by using a seedbox. When you download something the seedbox IP is given out by the tracker rather than your home IP. By using FTPS to transfer files from the seedbox to your computer you will add a layer of encryption should the ISP be looking at the data going through your home connection. One more step in tracking you and depending on the company that you get the seedbox from it may also be a dead end.

If the anti-P2P did manage to get your IP from the seedbox host then you can still get a 'pay up or else' letter. You can add in another layer of protection by getting a VPN. You essentially connect to the VPN and all your browsing goes through the VPN, it fetches whatever you want and delivers it to you. The IP that websites and such will see is the VPN and not your personal IP. Unfortunately this will be at a small cost of overall speed, but it is another encrypted layer for the anti-P2P to get through. It may simply prove not to be worth their time, or if you have a VPN that doesn't log then it may become impossible to prove it was in fact you.

Safe?
No where is. This is a truth of torrenting.


In Canada the ISP gives you an email and/or asks for one when you sign up for service. Canipre sent out their letters to TekSavvy ISP customers via email. Mind you is was considered “speculative invoicing” but it still went through email. No need for a registered letter. The only difference is that now the ISP's have to forward the notice where as before they could trash it if they wanted to. Other than that, nothing new.
 

coleridge

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My coworker is on teksavvy and he got a warning letter this week for a movie.

What TV network (HBO, etc..) was it that came after you?
 

coleridge

TRIBE Member
How are private torrent sites different than public ones? MPAA or whoever can join just as easily as anybody here.
You have to keep your ratios up. Meaning you have to leave torrents running all the time. A whole lot of work and bandwidth.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are fully infiltrating the private sites breaking the laws they're trying to enforce in the process.
 

lobo

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I'm with Teksavvy and downloading a few things this week and last month and haven't received any warning emails yet.

I'm using utorrent for my downloads and typically hit TPB, eztv and kickass to get them. I've set my client to always have encryption, no legacy connections, disabled DHT and PEX as well as running Peerblocker. Have never received an email and hoping I don't for a while.

Lobo
 

SneakyPete

TRIBE Member
You have to keep your ratios up. Meaning you have to leave torrents running all the time. A whole lot of work and bandwidth.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are fully infiltrating the private sites breaking the laws they're trying to enforce in the process.
By keeping your ratio up you're also exposed to more risk as you have to keep the torrent open for longer(this is if you don't follow torrent etiquette of 1:1 ratio). From the anti-P2P group perspective, they are not tracking all the titles being shared just as many as they can handle (ie. picking a specific movie they want to go after). I also don't think they have to track everyone downloading a specific torrent, they can just track people sharing for a period of time. For example, they can just open a torrent for 30 minutes (or however long they choose) and grab the people that are sharing during that 30 minutes. This is how imagine it goes down, maybe I am wrong.
 

sheik rock

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It was for an episode of "Broad City", and the letter came from Viacom, through Vobile as their agent. My ISP is Shaw, as I live in BC.
 

Vise

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No issues using NZBs over here, highly recommended. I was previously on a number of private torrent sites and the ratio management stuff was a pain... could not be happier with the NZB route and the downloads are stupid fast. Snagged something the other day at 25.8 MB/s. :D
 

praktik

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I have over a Tera byte before I'm back down to 1:1

Its possible to get to "easy street" on ratio - built it up with an unlimited Internet connection
 

Karim

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No issues using NZBs over here, highly recommended. I was previously on a number of private torrent sites and the ratio management stuff was a pain... could not be happier with the NZB route and the downloads are stupid fast. Snagged something the other day at 25.8 MB/s. :D
NZB's are sweet but I find lately that if you don't snag new files quickly, they end up breaking and you get failed downloads...
 

Vise

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NZB's are sweet but I find lately that if you don't snag new files quickly, they end up breaking and you get failed downloads...
Depends on your provider I think, with Astraweb I'm easily 99% good on downloads... only really old stuff (like 3+ years) fails on occasion for me.
 

JoshuaReid

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Question: It's only illegal if you upload right? No issues for straight downloading?

I ask as I've been using IRC for downloading for years. It's always just a DCC transfer, no upload involved. So ideally it should be the safest way.

Speeds if you use the right channels are 1-2MB/s too so no issues about slow DLs.
 

acheron

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Got a warning via TekSavvy for a torrent of Amurican Sniper. (which I got via kickass)

I will ignore it.
 
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