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Toronto Traffic UNAPPRECIATION Thread


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if i start paying to have to lock up my bike, fuck yes motorcycles and pay -_-

Wasn't Tahoe joking with that post? Who the hell would pay money to lock up a bicycle?! Actually, I could see that with the $2-3k bicycles and full on enclosed bicycle cubicles, but that would be a niche market and for specific places.
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Traffic plan released for the Pan Am Games.



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The above will be a huge shit show... May be wise to take your summer vacation during the weeks it is on... In other words Get The Fuck Outta Dodge...
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They want to narrow the lanes in the city. I predict more accidents and more road rage.

Toronto to narrow traffic lanes in hopes of increasing safety - The Globe and Mail
Toronto to narrow traffic lanes in hopes of increasing safety
Toronto will narrow many of the city’s traffic lanes in a bid to increase safety by reining in speeds while freeing up space for bicycle lanes or wider sidewalks.

The city has just finished a new policy for lane widths, guidelines that will be rolled out gradually across Toronto.

It will mean that, over a period of years, the lanes on streets across the city will be redrawn. A city official said current widths can encourage drivers to go faster than necessary. The new lanes will generally range from 3 to 4.3 metres, depending on location.

“The width of the lane often sends a signal to drivers about how much cushion they have and sort of informs their comfort level about how fast they’re willing to go,” said Stephen Buckley, general manager of the city’s Transportation Services department.

The change comes amid a drumbeat of concern about congestion, and after an election in which traffic problems were at the front of voters’ minds. Asked about possible outrage from drivers over a city policy designed to slow them down, Mr. Buckley said adjusting the timing of traffic signal schedules can mitigate the effects.

“Our goal here is to continue to try to maintain [traffic flow] at safe and context-sensitive speeds,” he said. “And in the downtown core, do you need to be going 50 [kilometres an hour]? Probably not. If we can keep people moving at 30 K or 40 K, smoothly, they’ll be ecstatic [about] that.”

The department has come up with a fairly complex process to determine how to use space freed up by lane re-sizing.

In some cases, sidewalks might be widened, a recognition that pedestrian volumes in parts of the city are a substantial form of traffic. In other places, the additional space may be given over to cyclists or a median. If a lot of space is left over, additional parking or left turn lanes might be considered.

“You’re basically seeing that every city in the U.S. at this point, in their downtown urban core, they’re at 10-foot lanes, which are 3.0-metre lanes,” Mr. Buckley noted.

It is difficult to say just how much difference these changes will make. Toronto’s lanes have been based on Transportation Association of Canada guidelines – which critics say are outdated – and widths vary substantially.

The default width for curb lanes will be 3.2 or 4.3 metres, depending on the type of road and whether there is dedicated space for cyclists. Through lanes will be 3 or 3.2 metres, based on the size of the road.

All Toronto lanes will have a range of acceptable widths, and factors such as the presence of transit vehicles or heavy pedestrian activity could vary the size. For example, buses operated by the TTC are up to 2.97 metres wide, including mirrors, and lanes on bus routes are to be a minimum of 3.3 metres wherever possible.

Arterial roads are on a 20-year cycle of resurfacing, which would include repainting the lanes to the new standards. Transportation Services is planning to move more quickly, though, to identify and repaint roads where doing so would increase safety or free up useful space. The department’s proposed 2015 budget for lane-painting totals $3.5-million, up from $2.7-million this year. Roads in a few areas were done using the new approach before the policy was finalized, but it is not clear where and when the impact will be more broadly seen.

The city’s transportation department has been working on the new policy for nearly a year. The work came to fruition shortly after urban planner and Walkable City author Jeff Speck published an impassioned pitch for narrower lanes.

“When lanes are built too wide, many bad things happen,” he wrote in widely shared essay last month for The Atlantic CityLab. “In a sentence: pedestrians are forced to walk further across streets on which cars are moving too fast and bikes don’t fit.”

Many lanes in Toronto are wider than the 3.03 metres Mr. Speck recommends, but the new guidelines would bring them closer.

“We can modify the paint pretty easily,” Mr. Buckley said. “So if we want to do things where we’re trying to squeeze out a little more space on an existing road, scrubbing lines and then putting new lines down is pretty easy to do.”

The variable nature of street use means there cannot be one standard width for lanes across a city. The new guidelines include a target for each type of road, as well as maximum and minimum widths.

Factors that might prompt a divergence from the target include parking, cyclist or truck volumes and the character of the neighbourhood. The guidelines stress, though, that the target should be “pursued wherever feasible” and that going to the maximum or minimum allowable widths would require “strong and valid justification.”

glych t.anomaly

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fuck that, motorists need to suck it up and start thinking of alternative routes or transportation if they dont like it.

more bike lanes, slower cars, and less room will force people to re-evalute their choices.
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glych t.anomaly

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You know what else can fuck off about people and traffic while driving.

what is up with people on a side street, driving towards you, that need to be 1 meter away from parked cars on their side of the road, but will literally buzz you 10cm from taking out your mirror.....



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I live right beside "ground zero" of the athlete's village. I think cosmosuave lives even closer.

I wonder how nuts it's going to be in the actual area, or maybe it'll just be more traffic than usual and nothing else out of the ordinary since all the mayhem will be at the actual events?

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Raise gas tax and add road tolls, expert tells Ontario
The time is right for hiking fuel taxes and tolling roads to pay down the deficit and fund transit, says Trent University prof.

Raise gas tax and add road tolls, expert tells Ontario
The time is right for hiking fuel taxes and tolling roads to pay down the deficit and fund transit, says Trent University prof.
Bernard Weil / Toronto Star
Toronto's currrent experience with HOV lanes due to the Pan Am Games should be promptly followed up with tolls, while drivers are used to these sorts of changes, argues the director of the Residential and Civil Construction Alliance of Ontario.
Published on Jul 15 2015
Tess Kalinowski
Ontario should immediately and substantially raise the gas tax and begin creating more road tolls to pay for transportation infrastructure.
The recommendation from a Trent University road pricing expert is being released Wednesday, just as the Pan Am Games are sparking fresh controversy about regional road congestion.
A report by professor emeritus Harry Kitchen, for the Residential and Civil Construction Alliance of Ontario (RCCAO), argues that Queen’s Park should hike the gas tax this year from 14.7 cents to 23 cents a litre.
Coupled with a similar rise in diesel fuel tax, the increase could generate up to $14 billion over seven years for infrastructure spending. The report recommends the initial 8.3-cent jump at the pump be indexed to the rate of inflation each year for the next five to seven years.

The money could go toward the $130 billion the province has earmarked over the coming decade for infrastructure, leaving more general revenues to pay down Ontario’s $10.9-billion deficit.
The higher cost of driving would nudge motorists to more efficient cars, reduce the distance they travel and cut greenhouse gas emissions, says the report, A Case for Increasing Provincial Fuel Taxes.
The RCCAO “is trying to encourage the government to do the right thing,” said executive director Andy Manahan, who was a member of Liberal Premier Kathleen Wynne’s 2013 transit panel that recommended higher fuel taxes to raise money for transit.
“This would be something (the government) could do like carbon pricing that would have the same effect in reducing GHGs,” he said, adding that fuel taxes have the benefit of being fast and easy to administer.
The government should move now, because fuel taxes haven’t been raised in 23 years and prices at the pump have dropped since last year’s spike of $1.41 per litre, said the RCCAO.
Manahan said he will send a copy of Kitchen’s report to former TD Bank CEO Ed Clark who was appointed provincial business adviser by Wynne in June in part to look for new sources of revenue.
The report recommends that the government start charging more for gas as that revenue source shrinks.
With fewer baby boomers driving and more young people expected to be living in less car-oriented urban areas, seven U.S. states have already increased their gas tax rates, notes Kitchen.
But it’s not a long-term or equitable solution, since electric and hybrid car drivers would pay less without any incentive to cut their road use.
“What will be needed is some form of road pricing and parking charges that apply to all vehicles,” says the report.
Some studies have suggested that the Toronto region alone could raise between $700 million and $1.5 billion annually through road and parking levies.
“It’s incumbent on the government to do something to transition to road pricing because that will deal with congestion in a much more effective way than any other revenue tool,” said Manahan.
The government should move to test high occupancy toll (HOT) lanes immediately following the Pan Am Games, while drivers are already accustomed to lane restrictions, said Manahan.
“Once it’s taken off it’s going to be much more difficult to say, ‘OK, we’re going to expand the network again and do this pilot project.’ If you’re going to pull the tooth, just do it once,” he said.

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road rage and bad driving is becoming worse n worse, i don't understand all these fucking people in such a hurry. I had someone cut me off, brake - just to take the hwy exit off of 427 North.

the fucked up thing is that if I HIT into them, ITS MY FAULT.

oh well - time to get a dash board camera.