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The TTC seems like it is collapsing

praktik

TRIBE Member
The good thing is, we dug then filled in a line across Eglinton, and are now digging one all over again.
I also love wasting hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars on cancellation fees for projects we just end up doing later anyway FOR SURE

It goes to show how much conservatives really respect the hallowed "taxpayer", to pay hundreds of millions of dollars for the privilege of halting work on critical transit infrastructure. Such far-sighted, prudent leadership from Mike Harris and Rob Ford.

What - you gonna vote red, or worse, socialist orange??

Go ahead and burn a pile of taxpayer money while you're at it! Will give you pinkos a good head start.

I know who's really looking out for my wallet!
 

SneakyPete

TRIBE Member
Actually TTC wanted a system you could use bank cards and NFC tap systems as Presto is actually outdated. TTC felt the price was far to high for a previous gen system.
AFAIK, Presto uses NFC. They should be able to implement tap to pay with a firmware update, in fact, they do have plans for it*. Paying for a single fare from a bank/credit card or Android/Apple Pay shouldn't be too hard since it's charged directly to the credit card or bank. I think where they would have issues is loading a balance to a mobile device. Since it's a decentralized system there would have to be a way to keep track on the balance. I don't know what the new gen solved this issue.


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Littlest Hobo

TRIBE Member
It's pretty crazy that a DRL will take 20 years and billions. Perhaps the TTC should explore Innisfil's lead and try something new using Uber or Lyft.
 

Wiseman

TRIBE Member
AFAIK, Presto uses NFC. They should be able to implement tap to pay with a firmware update, in fact, they do have plans for it*. Paying for a single fare from a bank/credit card or Android/Apple Pay shouldn't be too hard since it's charged directly to the credit card or bank. I think where they would have issues is loading a balance to a mobile device. Since it's a decentralized system there would have to be a way to keep track on the balance. I don't know what the new gen solved this issue.


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I believe there was a non-Presto solution that the TTC was interested in that was orders of magnitude cheaper than Presto because it didn't require an infrastructure to support a Pay Card which is essentially managing a separate currency albeit simple one. It used bank cards/credit cards with NFC chips and mobile payment options that already have their own backend. It was in the hundreds of millions range instead of billions
 

praktik

TRIBE Member
I believe there was a non-Presto solution that the TTC was interested in that was orders of magnitude cheaper than Presto because it didn't require an infrastructure to support a Pay Card which is essentially managing a separate currency albeit simple one. It used bank cards/credit cards with NFC chips and mobile payment options that already have their own backend. It was in the hundreds of millions range instead of billions
I guess the real issue is Metrolinx and Toronto not really being able free to chart its own course.

The real play would have been to convince Metrolinx to go this way outside of toronto too but there's reason to have plenty less faith in that organization.

There needs to be a regional plan but these guys always shit the bed.
 

rave jedi

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Just curious, what's the "best" TTC app people have been using here? I just noticed the TTC website has recently added an app to their site which they never had before until this month. Anyway, I just added it to my phone now, so I really don't know how good it is.

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