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The Sopranos - Final Episodes
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groovespinna
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great ep.
great series.
tv is now officially over.
great series.
tv is now officially over.
I love that this episode is now going to become the subject of endless conspiracy theories, urban legend stories and rampant speculation. That alone is brilliant.
As a co-worker of mine said, this isn't a Steven Segal movie it's the Sopranos, of course the ending is going to be ambiguous.
I love the idea that they filmed multiple endings to fool the actors and possibly didn't use any of them in the end.
As a co-worker of mine said, this isn't a Steven Segal movie it's the Sopranos, of course the ending is going to be ambiguous.
I love the idea that they filmed multiple endings to fool the actors and possibly didn't use any of them in the end.
groovespinna
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there's another theory that the final scene is available on the dvd release.
The whole episode is a dream sequence.
Tony dies in his sleep.
The guy sitting at the counter in the diner is Tony's father... and incidentally, he enters the diner just in front of AJ, and AJ at the table talks with a thicker Jersey accent than usual (more like the way Tony talks)...
"It goes on and on and on and on..." <---father to son, mother to daughter, the shit repeats itself...
And I could go on and on and on and on... there are all sorts of hints all the way through, but it isn't totally given away as a dream sequence except at the end.
Tony dies in his sleep.
The guy sitting at the counter in the diner is Tony's father... and incidentally, he enters the diner just in front of AJ, and AJ at the table talks with a thicker Jersey accent than usual (more like the way Tony talks)...
"It goes on and on and on and on..." <---father to son, mother to daughter, the shit repeats itself...
And I could go on and on and on and on... there are all sorts of hints all the way through, but it isn't totally given away as a dream sequence except at the end.
The Second Coming
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Yeats
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Yeats
sweetdaddy
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the very first scene, of the second last episode (blue comet)...what's the story there? who is the guy Silvio kills, and why does he kill him?
taken from another board, I really like this explanation...
Originally posted by jennifera
I got the answer.. I didn't write this, but it totally makes sense..
"from a guy in my office...
He was killed....
in fact, the ending was genius if you've paid attention to the show or are just a fan of well developed well thought out plots that all tie together and have the memory of a champ to remember it all
the ending was simple, he got killed, but let me tell yall why and explain in detail... There was 3 people in the room total who had a reason to kill tony.....
the two black guys, they were paid before to kill tony but he was only shot in the ear, this was in one of the earlier seasons,
also in the earlier seasons, the trucker who was sitting at the bar stool, who the camera kept focusing in on, is Nikki leotardo, Phil Leotardos nephew, he was in one of the early season episodes where Phil and Tony have a sit down....
heres where the genius comes in....
When tonys walking in the diner,you see the camera focus on him, then it switches to his perspective, and you see him looking @ the booth hes gonna sit at...
then the camera switches back to tonys face, then it once again switches to his perspective, and it shows him looking @ the door and looking @ the people come in..... Everytime the door opens the Chimes sound....... Carmela walks in, Chimes, AJ walks in Chimes, this when Meadows parallel parking, still trying to get inside the restaurant....
at this point the camera switches back to the trucker who goes in the bathroom......
Then it goes to a scene where meadow finally parks and starts running in the diner....
the doors about to open, Tony looks up....
and No Chimes......................
No Music............
Everything just goes black...............
In one of the early episodes of the sopranos, tonys talking with bobby about what it must feel like to die..
Bobby says "at the end, you probably dont hear anything, everything just goes black"
part of that was revisited in the second to last episode during the last seconds of it, when tonys about to go to sleep and he flashes back to the memory of him and bobby on the boat... "You probably dont hear anything everything just goes black"
so in the end, the Journey song was playing, the chimes on the door sounded but when meadow came in, the guy in the trucker hat came out and killed tony...
its the reason you aint hear, or see shite when he died.... it was from his perspective.... and everything went black, then the credits rolled."
Originally posted by jennifera
I got the answer.. I didn't write this, but it totally makes sense..
"from a guy in my office...
He was killed....
in fact, the ending was genius if you've paid attention to the show or are just a fan of well developed well thought out plots that all tie together and have the memory of a champ to remember it all
the ending was simple, he got killed, but let me tell yall why and explain in detail... There was 3 people in the room total who had a reason to kill tony.....
the two black guys, they were paid before to kill tony but he was only shot in the ear, this was in one of the earlier seasons,
also in the earlier seasons, the trucker who was sitting at the bar stool, who the camera kept focusing in on, is Nikki leotardo, Phil Leotardos nephew, he was in one of the early season episodes where Phil and Tony have a sit down....
heres where the genius comes in....
When tonys walking in the diner,you see the camera focus on him, then it switches to his perspective, and you see him looking @ the booth hes gonna sit at...
then the camera switches back to tonys face, then it once again switches to his perspective, and it shows him looking @ the door and looking @ the people come in..... Everytime the door opens the Chimes sound....... Carmela walks in, Chimes, AJ walks in Chimes, this when Meadows parallel parking, still trying to get inside the restaurant....
at this point the camera switches back to the trucker who goes in the bathroom......
Then it goes to a scene where meadow finally parks and starts running in the diner....
the doors about to open, Tony looks up....
and No Chimes......................
No Music............
Everything just goes black...............
In one of the early episodes of the sopranos, tonys talking with bobby about what it must feel like to die..
Bobby says "at the end, you probably dont hear anything, everything just goes black"
part of that was revisited in the second to last episode during the last seconds of it, when tonys about to go to sleep and he flashes back to the memory of him and bobby on the boat... "You probably dont hear anything everything just goes black"
so in the end, the Journey song was playing, the chimes on the door sounded but when meadow came in, the guy in the trucker hat came out and killed tony...
its the reason you aint hear, or see shite when he died.... it was from his perspective.... and everything went black, then the credits rolled."
basketballjones
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i was thinking that when tony and aj were talking and he said..."remember the good stuff', it meant, it is over, but it was fun along the way
i think a movie might come out
i think a movie might come out
xtollo said:
The problem is, one of them dies in that episode when they try and kill Tony. It's from the Seaon 1 episode "Isabella" It's not the same guys at all.
http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/episode/season1/episode12.shtml
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Chase is just saying,"Look, it's just fucking fiction... get over it..."
He slopped together a bunch of shit just to see the reaction of fans... and it worked brilliantly... the episode is totally incoherent.
Interesting that when Paulie is in the empty Bing, for about a second you see the name of the REAL LIFE strip joint it is filmed in called "Satin Dolls".
He slopped together a bunch of shit just to see the reaction of fans... and it worked brilliantly... the episode is totally incoherent.
Interesting that when Paulie is in the empty Bing, for about a second you see the name of the REAL LIFE strip joint it is filmed in called "Satin Dolls".
videotronic
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19178593
according to that article ^^ the guy in the knight rider jacket was a new character too, so i dont much buy that either...
according to that article ^^ the guy in the knight rider jacket was a new character too, so i dont much buy that either...
videotronic
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i had to scream at some poor cab driver this morning to get him to turn the radio off...they were talking about "thousands of disappointed fans crashing...." and i figured they were talking about HBOs website
i nearly scared him half to death..haha
i nearly scared him half to death..haha
basketballjones
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your thinking of analyze thisjebac said: