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THE ONGOING DEBATE.....

djUnabomber

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Alright, since this seems to be the MAIN place for tech heads to hang out...I was wondering a little something.
HOW DO TECHNO PURISTS VIEW ACID TECHNO ???

Honestly, I've been to England a few times now and it seems that they have a real divide between the ACid scene and the techno scene. I've also seen it here. So how do you guys feel about Acid Techno ?? Is it even Techno !? Is it just Hard Trance !? Would you listen to it ?? Would you go to events featuring headliners from both genres ??

I REALLY want to know these things....
PEACE
 

ElektroTekBabe

TRIBE Member
I love Acid Techno! The older stuff...94/95...yummy!! It's very unique. I do consider Acid to be an earlier part of techno...I mean it evolved into what we hear now. Techno, Elektro, breaks, everything...like @m says: "Fuck Genres!"

 

The Kid

TRIBE Member
I like older acid techno, in the vein of Plastikman and Woody McBride...

...don't think I've heard anything recent that I would consider acid techno...

my $0.02
 

tommysmalls

TRIBE Member
acid techno was cool until about 1995 when producers realized they could make a mountain of new sounds with machines other than the 303.

personally, i'm no fan of the 303 and its kind.
 

Adam Duke

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acid techno usually runs too close to almost hardcore for me, personally and I've yet to see anyone layer it well. I'm not down with stuff that's based too much on a 'track for track' mentality.

But those are my only compaints. I've heard some screechingly intense tracks taht have definately had a party on it's knees before. It's definitely not something I'd be able to listen to an entire night of though...too much for my sensitive, girly eardrums.

@m. <---fuck genres.
 
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djmikeconradi

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Some of the so-called nu-skool acid techno seems at times alot like hard trance. I'd sooner listen to acid techno than hard trance dj's caning the same tracks throughout the night.

As far as having a techno headliner paired with an acid techno headliner goes, sure why not.

"@m. <---fuck genres. "

^^^ words of wisdom


peace

mike
 

d.code

TRIBE Member
Honestly? Fuck genres.
I dance to it- I like it more than trance and I can have a good time while its playing. Its just when techno is on- I have a better time.
I used to spin acid techno. Of coarse that will give me a bad rep with most of the 'real' techno promoters in this city.

Acid techno on acid is good.


Cheers
Tyler
 

beaker

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i'm not a techno purist by any stretch of the imagination. i think music purism (if that's the word i'm looking for) is a boring and backwards approach to enjoying music to begin with. everything inevitably gets crossed over, so thumbs up to the "fuck genres" crew and just play whatever makes you happy.
 

Nub!

TRIBE Member
Sometimes its alittle too hard, but overall its decent.

Its just as much fun to Dance too as the rest :]

-=Nub=-
 

patri©k

TRIBE Member
One of my favorite sets ever is Terry Mullin 'NewSchoolFusion'. It's an old acid tape from waaaaaay back. I bought that tape at X-static. Pure tweaky distorted treats with some dirty kicks and tribal rythyms.

True acid... back in the day.. early 90's was so wikid. Fast Eddie, Speedy J, Sunshine, Raze, Tyree and a few others were rinsing it out. Terry mullin, Juan Atkins, Carl Craig, Adam X... those guys were the shit.

I wish the old kind of acid would make a resurgance.

to each his own. I guess.

fattyp©2002
 
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tommysmalls

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by fattyp:
One of my favorite sets ever is Terry Mullin 'NewSchoolFusion'. It's an old acid tape from waaaaaay back. I bought that tape at X-static. Pure tweaky distorted treats with some dirty kicks and tribal rythyms.

fattyp©2002
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i've got Mullen's set from a 1995 Syrous party, and its OFF THE F!ing hook!
 

patri©k

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tommysmalls:
i've got Mullen's set from a 1995 Syrous party, and its OFF THE F!ing hook!</font>
does one side end with a Daft Punk song ?

if yes..... I MUST OBTAIN COPY !

WILL PAY FOR COPY !

MUST KILL FOR COPY !

doooood..... I was at a Syrous party waaaaay back in the day... and the last track he played at the party was a Daft Punk song (the name escapes me) !

All I know... that was one of my fav sets. I never ended up getting a copy of the tape, cuz I remember buying the Anne Savage 'UK Series' & Brandon Block B2B with Graham Gold tapes instead.

I wish I bought the Mullin tape cuz the Anne Savage sucked... I ended up throwing it out the window on the 401.

so...... shall we say 'TRADE-SIES' ?????

I'm sure I've got some tapes / CD's that would tickle yer fancy.


fattyp©2002
 

Straight Up D Shit

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by fattyp:
does one side end with a Daft Punk song ?

if yes..... I MUST OBTAIN COPY !

WILL PAY FOR COPY !

MUST KILL FOR COPY !

doooood..... I was at a Syrous party waaaaay back in the day... and the last track he played at the party was a Daft Punk song (the name escapes me) !

All I know... that was one of my fav sets. I never ended up getting a copy of the tape, cuz I remember buying the Anne Savage 'UK Series' & Brandon Block B2B with Graham Gold tapes instead.

I wish I bought the Mullin tape cuz the Anne Savage sucked... I ended up throwing it out the window on the 401.

so...... shall we say 'TRADE-SIES' ?????

I'm sure I've got some tapes / CD's that would tickle yer fancy.


fattyp©2002
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Yeah man! Meeee toooo tommy, i loved that party & he rocked my world that night, u guys r right, whem i think acid techno, terry always comes first to mind...
it's like this underwater space sounds, bloop bloop...or like Vapourspace's stuff
 

seeker

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aceeeeeeeeid!

hours upon hours of the stuff would drive anyone mad (not in a good way, either!), but a little bit is okay.

and @m is right, nobody seems to layer it, just lay it down track after track a la trance.
 
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~atp~

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some of the newer acid labels are producing reasonably mixable tracks...less squelchy acid sounds, more rhythm, and more funky stabs...but i find that even if it is more mixable, it's still too similar from track to track to entertain me for extended periods of time.

-k
 

djUnabomber

TRIBE Promoter
Hmmm. Interesting, to say the least...I was expecting a much more "elitist" view on this topic. It's nice to see that Toronto can be a city without stupid borders like Europe has.
In defence of the acid techno scene I would like to say that as an acid dj I have probably 5-600 acid records that can all be layered. I often find myself using 3 decks in a set and sometimes even 4 ( NYE ).
I agree that 8 hours of pure acid is enough to drive Charles Manson insane but now-a days there are so many sub-genres of acid techno that you could probably start a company based exclusively on acid techno.
Anyways, thanks for answering folks.
PEACE
 
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djUnabomber

TRIBE Promoter
NO, I mean the idea of having DAVE the DRUMMER do a LIVE PA at our party. It'll be the last one he does in North America but he's gonna do it for us. Plus Guy " geezer" Macaffer is doing a LIVE PA also. NOW THAT's HARD TECHNO !!!
PEACE
 

dsp909

TRIBE Member
Julian Liberator is the hardest out of that band of people. Hands down. Makes Rowland seem like he's playing epic Trance.
 

Trouble

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I agree that 8 hours of pure acid is enough to drive Charles Manson insane</font>
Not that i'm insulting your analogy or anything, but I was under the impression that Charles Manson was already insane.


That aside, I agree that most djs that play the newer acid techno sound generally jsut play track, although people like unabomber are the exception to the rule.


John
 
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