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The Mom Thread

geminigirl

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Congrats Sarah & Kevin!!...Piper is an awesome name :)



GG....my wife is wondering if there are any issues with letting our daughter cry it out for 45 mins in the the middle of the night. Arwynn's put to sleep around 8:30 and sleeps soundly until around 2am. Then she stands up in her crib and has a fit until we bring her into bed. I'm happy to let her cry it out until she passes out but my wife is concerned that it's bad for her. Is there anything to this?

thanks
stew :)
Hey Stew. How old is Arwynn? I absolutely read your story in early months.
There is a little more to sleep training than letting your baby cry. First you want to get set up for success - proper sleep attire, proper room temp to allow her to be cozy, nice room ambiance and sleep train her in her crib until 7am. You NEED to be consistent. You can't go back and forth from crib to co-sleeping. If you are going to sleep train, go all the way. Also, day sleep plays a big part in how well she sleeps at night. Sleep begets sleep.
If you are interested in a consult to get yourself a 12 hour sleeper, email me: maxinesass@telus.blackberry.net
Services - MAXINE'S MULTIPLE BIRTH CARE
:)
 

geminigirl

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Ps...people sleep train their babies ALL the time. Big sleep = happy babies as far as I am concerned. As long as it done properly and with love. :)
 

geminigirl

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Brooklyn & Piper are both adorable! And, I love the Bla Bla cat.

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Vintage Fisher Price Little People toys - what do you all think of those? Toxic plastic or great because it's reused toys?

We love our bla bla dolly too.

<3 vintage FP!!!!

I have my house from 1974 and a bunch of other stuff.
 
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stryker

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Hey Stew. How old is Arwynn? I absolutely read your story in early months.
There is a little more to sleep training than letting your baby cry. First you want to get set up for success - proper sleep attire, proper room temp to allow her to be cozy, nice room ambiance and sleep train her in her crib until 7am. You NEED to be consistent. You can't go back and forth from crib to co-sleeping. If you are going to sleep train, go all the way. Also, day sleep plays a big part in how well she sleeps at night. Sleep begets sleep.
If you are interested in a consult to get yourself a 12 hour sleeper, email me: maxinesass@telus.blackberry.net
Services - MAXINE'S MULTIPLE BIRTH CARE
:)
Thanks Maxine,

Her 1st birthday was last week 7/19!...But she's essentially 9 months corrected and doing great. She sleeps very well at night but it's all co-sleeping. We've kind of thrown out sleeping in the crib for the time being, the attemps were causing too much havoc on her daytime eating. The thing that screws everything up is that she's been trained to sleep in Jodi's arms because of her oral aversion. The only way to get her to take the bottle is to put her to sleep and then she'll suck the bottle as a reflex. She loves solids and is starting to take huge amounts from the sippy cup so hopefully the 6 naps a day/feeding thing will be over by year's end. I'm sure we're going to need more help in the fall. I'll reach out :)

stew
 

I_bRAD

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my mom has an old school FP sesame street house thing that my kids play with at her house along with the camper van. some of the 'people' are plastic, but there are also some REALLY old skool wooden ones!
Apparently some of ours are wooden too so they're not that old (play)skool!
 

Interchange

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lol this thread came in handy for me - my cousin put an sos out for a sleep specialist - Gemini Girl i just passed your info a long :)
 
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awwnaw

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Omg 9 month sleep regression. What the fuck do I do? She normally goes to sleep at bedtime with minimal bullshit and sleeps til 5, 6. Lately been waking up wailing a couple hours in. Now its every fucking hour or so.
 

jocelyn dee

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Omg 9 month sleep regression. What the fuck do I do? She normally goes to sleep at bedtime with minimal bullshit and sleeps til 5, 6. Lately been waking up wailing a couple hours in. Now its every fucking hour or so.
Is it teething?

We had some bad nights where kids weren't sleeping and ended up in our bed but then they later sprouted a tooth. After it happened a few times we started giving tylenol before bed during bad teething times.
 

awwnaw

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I don't think so no. She is/has been but its pretty obvious and I'm consistent with giving Advil. Just to be sure I still gave her some after the 3rd wake up. Didn't prevent the subsequent 2 and the dosage always does the trick.
 

awwnaw

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Another sleep question, has anyone successfully shifted their child's wake up time to later?

My girl used to wake 6-630. We would out her to bed around 8. Then she started to seem very drowsy around 7 so it was shifted earlier to 7-730. Still would wake around 6-630 in the morning. The past 6 weeks or so she's been waking at 5 or 515. I feed her a big bottle and 20 mins later she goes back to bed for another hour or so. I have tried putting her to bed later (been purposeful and simply because we were travelling), stuffing her as much as I can in case its hunger. Nothing. Still fucking 5 am or so. She starts stirring and thrashing around then like her body knows its wake up time. I don't think it's hunger personally as even when she used to wake after 6 she'd be ok and happy for 20 mins while I got her breakfast together.

Is there hope? ! Other than occasional odd nights or random wakings she mostly sleeps through the night. She's 9 months.
 

leigh

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Another sleep question, has anyone successfully shifted their child's wake up time to later?
We did with the sleep training, and it worked (for now), though we were tackling a whole bunch of other sleep problems at the same time, so I can't really say if doing some sleep training in the morning would have worked if we hadn't dealt with all the other issues at the same time. Basically, we were told not to go in and get him before 7am. It really sucked for the first few days, but he'd cry for a little bit and then eventually fall back asleep. Eventually the early wake-ups stopped happening.

I don't know how long that will last. I had no idea there was a sleep regression at 9 months until I read your previous post. Not looking forward to that :(
 
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awwnaw

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Maybe you won't be affected...? All the time there seems to be a gaddamn regression. I'm sure GeminiGirl has more insight but my understanding is while its certainly a hiccup its a part of raising an infant/child and good sleep habits make it a hit more manageable. So you're already on track. 6 months was pretty hard for us and she's a great sleeper. This one is less so. I guess cause 9 months is such a big milestone where so much can be happening physically and mentally with development.

I tried your advice and it worked like a charm. She's actually been waking earlier now, past few nights at 4! I've let her sqwawk through it and then she's gotten herself back to sleep and slept til about 6ish. I think with 5 it was harder for her because its so close to her wake time...? I know with me if I wake up randomly too close to my typical rise I can't get back to sleep easily and just elect to hit the coffee. Wonder if with babies its similar. Anyhooter hoping it continues working until phased out.
 

geminigirl

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There are big reasons for 5am wakings. And 5am is neverrrr morning as far as I am concerned. I am just heading out. I will expand on this asap! :)
 

awwnaw

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Thank you GG! Update the 5 am wake ups are still happening. Momentary relief before. She eats, then is tired and goes down again for an hour or so. :( I still do 2 more naps the remainder of the day as always so I'm not counting I as a 'nap'. Ugh babies. So cute and great and horrible all at once.
 
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geminigirl

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Hey guys! :)

When babies don't have sufficient naps and/or go to bed overtired that very likely results in early morning wakings.

When baby's 'sleep tanks' are filled up properly during the day with great quality naps(preferably in their crib, predictable routines & they go to bed in that perfect window - tired but not over tired, that is when babies sleep until a more 'text book' morning time - 6:30/7am.

Other factors are:

Sleep habits -
Does your baby sleep independently in their own crib for both naps and night sleep?
Do they know how to fall asleep drowsy/awake in their cribs instead of rocking feeding to sleep?
Do they know how to fall BACK to sleep all by themselves when they have a waking in the night/mid-nap?
Do they nap 1.5-2.5 hours in their crib?
Room ambiance -
Is the room conducive for great naps and night sleep?
Pitch dark, sound machine, great room temp..
Sleep attire -
Are they cozy?
I prefer a cooler room 21.5-22 + sleeper(with or without feet) + weighted sleep sack(2.5tog). Or even a long sleeve onsie + weighted sleep sack. The 2.5sack is more cozy.
Night time diapers - I am a huge fan of Huggies overnights one size up.

If everything is properly in place, anything in the 5s as **the middle of the night** -- just LEAVE THEM to fall back to sleep!!! Neverrr start your day at 5am. You need to set their morning clock to 6:30/7am.

Hope this was helpful. :)

awwnaw or anyone else if you need step by step sleep training help, that's what I do best! I would be happy to help you to get a 11-12 hour night sleeper.
 

leigh

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Are they cozy?
I prefer a cooler room 21.5-22 + sleeper(with or without feet) + weighted sleep sack(2.5tog). Or even a long sleeve onsie + weighted sleep sack. The 2.5sack is more cozy.
THIS was so monumental for us. As soon as we got our little guy's night time attire perfected, he started sleeping much better. The other night he had a terrible sleep, up every hour or two crying. I thought he was teething but realized in the morning that I had forgotten to put the A/C on and it was a few degrees warmer in the apartment than normal. The next night, with the A/C back on, he was back to sleeping wonderfully.

We're moving soon to a new place w/out A/C and I'm so worried!
 

awwnaw

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Ugh it sounds like I simply need to let her wail it out. She obviously could use that extra hour as she goes back to sleep within 10 minutes after I give her a bottle. But funny by the time I'm done changing her she's screaming for the thing like she's genuinely starved. (I worry I've trained her into this feed by accommodating these wake ups)

She's actually been a great sleeper because I did my suffering early in. I've swaddled this freak until 5 months which meant I never nursed her to sleep, because I had to swaddle her to out her down. I also never co slept but used an arms reach next to me. All that to say she learned quickly to get herself to sleep solo within a few minutes (typically) and I think she's actually like me.. Prefers her space to do that. Her only sleep crutch is a soother. I throw a couple in with her so there's always one within reach. And because she was a swaddle nut, safety became a concern so I transitioned her into a magic Merlin sleep suit. If you've never seen one, google it. Hilarious. I do that with a sleeper underneath and AC, blackout shades and a white noise app using a fan.

GeminiGirl, thank you so much (you too Leigh) for your advice. I'll be ringing for services you if this doesn't work.
 

geminigirl

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Ugh it sounds like I simply need to let her wail it out. She obviously could use that extra hour as she goes back to sleep within 10 minutes after I give her a bottle. But funny by the time I'm done changing her she's screaming for the thing like she's genuinely starved. (I worry I've trained her into this feed by accommodating these wake ups)

She's actually been a great sleeper because I did my suffering early in. I've swaddled this freak until 5 months which meant I never nursed her to sleep, because I had to swaddle her to out her down. I also never co slept but used an arms reach next to me. All that to say she learned quickly to get herself to sleep solo within a few minutes (typically) and I think she's actually like me.. Prefers her space to do that. Her only sleep crutch is a soother. I throw a couple in with her so there's always one within reach. And because she was a swaddle nut, safety became a concern so I transitioned her into a magic Merlin sleep suit. If you've never seen one, google it. Hilarious. I do that with a sleeper underneath and AC, blackout shades and a white noise app using a fan.

GeminiGirl, thank you so much (you too Leigh) for your advice. I'll be ringing for services you if this doesn't work.
'swaddled this freak until 5 months' - LOLs. Love your humour. :D

I swaddled my little girl until that age as well. I know what magic merlin sleep suits are. Babies totally look funny in them!
Sounds like you have a lot of good things in place.

Email me if you would like to book a phone consult at any point. I would love to get you a 7am riser & text book napper. maxinesass@telus.blackberry.net
Services - MAXINE'S MULTIPLE BIRTH CARE
 

geminigirl

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THIS was so monumental for us. As soon as we got our little guy's night time attire perfected, he started sleeping much better. The other night he had a terrible sleep, up every hour or two crying. I thought he was teething but realized in the morning that I had forgotten to put the A/C on and it was a few degrees warmer in the apartment than normal. The next night, with the A/C back on, he was back to sleeping wonderfully.

We're moving soon to a new place w/out A/C and I'm so worried!
Oh totally - room temp can F with sleep!
Not to worry Leigh - Fall temps are coming soon. Fall/winter temps are my fav for baby's to sleep.

:)
 
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