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The meaning of life is good karma

why not

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derek said:
meditation can release your pursua (spirit) and free you from the karmic cycle; this was the initial purpose of yoga. reality is an illusion (maya).

karma just is, and the effects of karma can be realized in seperate lifetimes. the is to break free from the karmic cycle and join brahman in the atoneness.

or so i read somewhere. there many variation of karma. this one is the most ancient that i'm aware of. it possibly predates the vedas and may have indo-european roots.

you might be interested in reading nietzche's, "beyond good and evil", or if the karma thing is your thing try mircea eliade's "yoga: immortality and freedom".

i find being ignostic so much easier ;)

yeah, karma is generated from all thought, spoken word and action, good or bad,that isnt divine. in order to think/speak/act divinely one has to bring the Self out into our consciousness (via meditation); once the Self has been introduced and is maintained in our mind, all of our actions are divine and cease to generate karma.

The purpose of life is to realize God within ourselves and to deal with all of our past karma by working out our issues and contacting the Being that resides within us all. Once we have transcended all of our karma, and once the wheels of samsara slow to a stop, we can finally break away from the world of duality and become one with the Being. Karma experienced in this life may have been generated in a past life, a life a thousand years ago, or countless eons ago. The true Reality is above and beyond the limitations of space and time and so these dimensions are inconsequential.

I think a better title for this thread would be "The meaning of life is No Karma"

some good books to check out that deal with karma:
the science of being and the art of living - maharishi mahesh yogi
the bhagavad gita
 

MoFo

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I try to do good and think ethically.. But then how do you explain all the rich assholes who die happy in this world?
 

queen naeema

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MoFo said:
I try to do good and think ethically.. But then how do you explain all the rich assholes who die happy in this world?

1. how sure can you reall be of someone elses mindspace upon their time of death?

2. if they were assholes, then they will have generated karma in their life, and therefore did nothing towards the ultimate goal of ridding themselves of all karma in order to unite with the Being and break free from the cycle of samsara. their "punishment" of sorts is that they will have to work through all their karma from previous lives including all the new karma they just finished generating in this most recent life, and will continue to be reincarnated until they do so. As was previously mentioned, the karma generated from their actions may not affect them in the next lifetime or within the next 10 lifetimes, but their soul will have to deal with it eventually in order to move forward in its spiritual development.
 
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Genesius

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dyad said:
that statement is heading into very dangerous territory. Holding strong beliefs that dont follow to a sensical end and doesnt work itself out in its own philosophical basis leans strongly toward blind faith. Add that to nearly personifying the earth and you have little argument as to how your belief of the earth's self defence reaction as plague is any different than the radical christians who believe god is punishing gay people with AIDS

Don't look at it like punishment... it's more like consequence.

But be careful not to take that out of context...
 
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debunct

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There is cause and effect.

When we transcend the ego and begin to taste the experience of consciousness or self-awareness (which btw..is not just a meditative experience) we begin to see the space that exists beyond the perception of what we actually think we see. It is spirit or pure potential. When we discover that place, we realize that every experience is manufactured by our own choice and our own perspective. Those "things" would not exist in that way without us. And with that realization, we see ourselves in everything. The tree needs us just as much as we need it. We understand the universe's organized nature on a deep intricately connected level.

At this point, it is very clear that Karma exists.

We can create meaningful change by taking the self out of the equation, even if Karma doesn't exist. In either way we would be a positive contribution to the good of the world. So I say why not?
 

akiras

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I don't actually believe in karma in its fateful definition, but I do believe that people will reflect back to you the energy that you give out. Which results in the same thing, pretty much.
 

NemIsis

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junglisthead said:
if one does not want people to subscribe to such thoughts, why would one post such thoughts to begin with ?

Junglisthead, Come on.. People post threads showing strange porn shots.. Wasn't there one with dead people a couple of months ago from a movie??
I don't think they expect us all to like it..;)
 
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NemIsis

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Soulster said:
I only skimmed this thread, but here's what I think:

Humans tend to seek out the simplest explanation for things. The explanations with the least exceptions are the most gratifying because they are the most simple. They are black and white. If an explanation is not simple, it is less clear or certain, and if it is clear or uncertain we tend to feel lost or unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

In my opinion, trying to explain the way the world works and your place in it using one concept is automatically an over-simplification of something incredibly complex and is probably not valid most of the time.

Fate, destiny, karma, higher beings - even science! - all valid ways of perceiving the way the world works and one's place in it... but perception creates reality for the most part. Believing too strictly in any one (or even a few) of these explanations endangers your ability to think about other possibilities and explanations.

Life itself is complex, right down to the molecular level and it is always changing; living is never cut and dry. Seeking out simple explanations that arrive at some ultimate conclusion is not only futile, but (in my opinion) impedes growth, evolution, and change in perception. Never assume you've figured it out, because you haven't. I am not saying that anyone here has made that claim, by the way. This is just a general statement.

I agree with this.. I am not a religious person, but I do consider myself spiritual. Say what you will..:eek: It's my own interpretation of life. When I die, I will be cremated, I don't believe in heaven or whatever.. But I do believe in what I hear, feel, taste, see and touch now..

There really is no answer.. So, I personally choose to live my life the best way possible. Not because I expect anything. I know enough about hardship to ever expect that. But, when I die, I want to know.. or at least believe (Because I know there are no absolutes), that I have lived the best life I possibly could, that I was a friend more than a foe... , that I lived a good life. I want my friends and family to know how much I love them..

Albeit, also making sure that I honour myself...and not let others take adavantage.. It's a fine line..

I do think these beliefs grew as we became sentient beings. To keep us from killing ourselves off. Not to say that we aren't doing that, but probably less than if we didn't believe in some sense of 'good'. What is 'good'?? It's a word.. It only has the meaning that we bring to it.. And that's because, in the heart of all of us (with the exception of some, like say Geoffry Dalmer..), we believe in it..
 

NemIsis

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In hindsight I should add... Cause I know someone's going to say, "What did Dalmer say at his last meal?" "Mmm MMm Good!"..lol

But apart from sociopaths and nutsos, we all know what 'good' means..

When you say someone is a good person. When you feel good.. Perhaps that's all we need to believe in? Just be Good..

A little verbose I must say, sorry! Had a weird night, with 'not so good ppl'.. Made me think..:)
 

Jeffsus

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Last night, after the club closed, we sat down with some people sat in a circle on the street, talking shit. Chance had it that there was a Circle-K nearby so I went in and bought a big bottle of sho-chu, some water, and cups. After we caned all that, I went in and bought a few rounds of (real) beer for everyone.

How did karma treat me? I woke up on the sidewalk at 9am feeling sore and sweaty.

So basically, fuck karma.

-jM
A&D
 
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why not

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queen naeema said:
that was me not ben! sorry ben!


that freaked me out - i opened the last page, and all of a sudden i was reading stuff i wrote that i didn't even know i knew.


wait a minute, why are you logged in as me?
i haven't posted on tribe from your computer for a long time - are you spying?
bad girl. very bad.
 

why not

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why not said:
that freaked me out - i opened the last page, and all of a sudden i was reading stuff i wrote that i didn't even know i knew.


wait a minute, why are you logged in as me?
i haven't posted on tribe from your computer for a long time - are you spying?
bad girl. very bad.

oops, just read the dates and realised that this is an old thread. duh.
 
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