The eternal MMA thread

[dj_soo]

I believe the big priority for Kang was to fight in the Spirit FC promotion once a year in Korea where he's heralded as a bit of a national hero despite growing up in Vancouver. This is something that UFC obviously wouldn't allow.

Of course back then, he could make a healthy living fighting in Pride/Dream as well.

Also, in an interview when Pride was first purchased, Dana White publically said that he didn't consider Kang a top fighter (this was when Kang was still considered top 5 MW by many).

I think the fact that Dream is no longer doing as well, coupled with a couple of tough losses at the time led him to sign with UFC. I also randomly ran into Dennis Kang at a restaurant here in Van a little while back and i'll be honest - i eavesdropped a little :O and it sounded like he wasn't too happy with FEG - but take that as pure unsubstantiated gossip .

I also suspect that UFC is really looking to make a push into South Korea in the next little while (asia in general actually) and it just makes smart business sense to sign someone who's huge in Korea (coupled with the recent Dong Hyun Kim signing).

I really like Kang but he's a little inconsistent - when he's on I think he's capable of being near the top, but he seems to make some mistakes that end up costing him matches (Akiyama, Mousassi).

 

[g0nz0]

Apparently WEC 36 will be airing live tonight on TSN2 (8pm EST), but Shaw out here doesn't even carry it so all I can hope for is a replay on TSN at a later date.

Anyone have any more info on this show airing in Canada?

Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown and Leonard Garcia vs. Jens Pulver sound like a couple of real exciting fights.

TSN2 is carried by Shaw (Vancouver) channel 226.

 

[TILT_Lance]

Faber Loses!

www.mmaweekly.com

In his long reign as WEC featherweight champion, Uriah Faber has always walked a dangerous line between brazen confidence and foolhardiness. Against Mike Brown at WEC 36, it finally came back to bite him.

Without a doubt, Faber was on track for another impressive win. His hands were faster than Brown’s. He wasn’t out-muscled in the clinch. But one mistake—a move he might have pulled off in the gym, but never in a title fight—cost him his belt.

It wasn’t the usual sequence of events for MMA. Brown drove in for a takedown but could not get in close enough to cinch Faber’s legs. A subsequent punch flurry drove Faber backwards, and in a move reminiscent of a pro wrestler, he bounced off the cage and offered his right elbow, spinning towards Brown.

Not suckered by the flashy move, Brown made a counter-offer, plastering Faber with a right hand that took the champ off his feet.

Faber rolled to his stomach, where several unanswered punches gave ref Troy Waugh no choice but to stop the fight.

As gracious in defeat as in victory, Faber mouthed apologies to the camera.

“I made a mistake, he capitalized on it,” Faber explained afterwards. “Congratulations to Mike Brown, he deserves it.”

Brown, near tears as the belt was strapped to his waist, thanked his trainers and teammates at American Top Team.

“I don’t have a lot of knockouts on my record, but I hit (expletive) hard, dude,” he said.

With the win, Brown could move on to face Leonard Garcia, who also had an impressive TKO victory on the card.

 

[joey]

^^^ dude, you really gotta warn before ruining the fights for everyone else.....


**************SPOILERS*******************




Urijan got ROCKED then lost, it seemed the ref took a long time to call a stoppage...


jens pulver also got rocked and ktfo, ref stepped in at the right time
i really gotta think jens is done

i think urijah came in over confiedent

 

[StarvinMarvin]

you fucking suck tilt lance

 

[Subsonic Chronic]

Faber Loses!

Holy shit can't you read? I bet you didn't even watch the fight either.

Moron.

 

[StarvinMarvin]

oh, oh, but he was the first one to post it, that gives you extra points in internet land

 

[doughboy]

Pete,

Word to the wise... don't even bother opening the thread if you don't want to be spoiled.


J

 

[Subsonic Chronic]

I know, I know. This one time I asked politely if we could keep spoilers out of the thread until the fight airs in Canada on Friday. Even airing a ***spoiler*** disclaimer (see Joey's example) would be fantastic for those people who just can't wait.

I didn't think it would be asking too much, but apparently it is.

 

[doughboy]

Yeah... I almost missed your plea when skimming through the thread because it was only one line, so I wouldn't be surprised if others totally missed it.

J

 

[Kazoo]

^^ i just want to see bisping get beat down.

Ditto!

 

[TILT_Lance]

SORRY SORRY SHIT SORRY I came home and loaded no I didn't read blah blah and no i didn't watch the fight

SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ndrwrld]

lol...didn't even watch the fight.

 

[KodiaK]

^^^ dude, you really gotta warn before ruining the fights for everyone else.....


**************SPOILERS*******************


jens pulver also got rocked and ktfo, ref stepped in at the right time
i really gotta think jens is done

in hindsight, im really starting to believe what BJ penn said about pulver... his career basically lived off of that victory over him.

i like jens and all, he's a good fighter.. but he's done, just like matt hughes is. I hope serra beats the fuck out of him, and i hate serra as well...

 

[Flashy_McFlash]

whon whon, Hermes Franca

Hermes Franca arrested on DUI charges

November 6, 2008 by Sam Caplan

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UFC lightweight competitor Hermes Franca was arrested in southern Florida early Thursday morning on charges of suspicion of driving while under the influence.

FiveOuncesOfPain.com confirmed the news with Sgt. Scott Pascarella of the Jupiter Police Department earlier this afternoon. Pascarella indicated that the arrest took place at 12:17 a.m. ET.

After his arrest, Franca was processed and transferred to the Palm Beach County jail.

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/hermes-franca-arrested-on-dui-charges/

 

[Subsonic Chronic]

SORRY SORRY SHIT SORRY I came home and loaded no I didn't read blah blah and no i didn't watch the fight

No problem dude. My apologies as well as I shouldn't be resorting to name-calling over that.


Another really good WEC show last night. Jake Rosholt vs. Osterneck was a fantastic fight and I'm kind of surprised that they didn't get fight of the night, although I didn't see the one that got the bonus. What a chin on Rosholt, there were a number of times I thought he was for sure going down but he gutted it out.

At least all the suckage was relegated to one fight, and Filho looked terrible. Wow... I couldn't imagine the frustration of Chael Sonnen first not getting a title fight because Filho didn't make weight, and then having to be in a cage for 15 minutes with a guy who seems to not want to fight at all.

Garcia vs. Brown looks to be the next fight for the 145lb belt after their respective wins Wednesday and it should be another good competitive battle. Garcia looked like a guy with a lot of potential even as an underweight 155lb fighter, I'd like to see how far he can go at 145.

Also.... whon whon Hermes Franca indeed. He must have been caught driving home from the WEC show because there showed him earlier on that night. LOL.

 

[Subsonic Chronic]

I always feel like a huge nerd posting twice in a row, although it seems to only happen in this thread. :/

Anyway, it looks like Filho will indeed be sending the WEC middleweight belt to Chael Sonnen, even if Chael won't be recognized as the official champ.

This piece on The Fight Network refers to an SI.com article that I can't find but says that Ed Soares (Filho's manager) will be shipping it to Sonnen shortly. There's also some interesting stuff in here alledging that Filho might have been high or something during his fight.

Also, I went in to do my Facebook picks for UFC and realised that I still can't decide who I think will win between Brock Lesnar and Randy Couture next weekend. Will Brock's power and athleticism prevail or will Randy's experience and ability to put together a solid game plan lead to a victory?

Who are you guys picking and why? I'm really curious on this one as I'm right on the fence.

 

[crazedcanuck]

I called the Mir submission, and made $375 on it, but I also called the Herring destruction. Well that one wasn't hard, guy is mid tier IMO, despite his record.

I WANT Randy to win, and if he does it'll be a sub from bottom, but my gut says Lesnar.

 

[KodiaK]

i really cant call the lesnar/coture fight. I like both of them.... just wonder if coture is going to try to do something like he did against tim..... see if he can get a surprise shot in and take brock by surprise and maybe go for a RNC.

as for brock, who the hell knows... he showed a lot of patience in the herring fight, and amazing wrestling control (Even though it was boring to watch). If this turns into a wrestling match, i dont think randy can control brock... if it's up on the cage, that works into randy's greco strengths... but i still think brocks size will overpower him even there.

 

[joey]

if mir can take brocks on slaught and still catch him, despite the year or whatever since then, then my money is on couture..

 

[Rage]

if mir can take brocks on slaught and still catch him, despite the year or whatever since then, then my money is on couture..

Well put...I agree...

RANDY RANDY RANDY!!!!!!!

 

[DeepSix]

Mir *did* catch a break when the ref stopped the action for a bit - stole all of Lesnar's momentum really.

 

[Rage]

Just finished Couture's bio and it was great


http://mmamania.com/2008/09/10/randy-couture-book-review-becoming-the-natural/

 

[Subsonic Chronic]

Mir *did* catch a break when the ref stopped the action for a bit - stole all of Lesnar's momentum really.

Apparently Lesnar asked to have a different ref for his fight with Couture than Mazzagatti who officiated his fight with Mir. It wasn't clear whether his request was taken into consideration or not but the referee for next Saturday's main event will be Mario Yamasaki so he should be happy.

At least it's not Herb Dean, he's a great ref but happens to be involved in a lot of controversial calls.

 

[KiX]

I WANT Randy to win, and if he does it'll be a sub from bottom, but my gut says Lesnar.

heh i WANT Lesnar to win, but my gut says Randy.

randy is great, don't get me wrong, but i'd love to see brock get the chance to kickstart his career early with something big like that. will it happen? ehh... i dunno, you really can't call that shit.

strength vs. experience. i think experience usually wins?