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Team England = Toronto Maple Leafs

DJ Vuvu Zela

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Right now the English league is probably the 3rd best league in the world (Spain & Germany are stronger).

Real Madrid, Barcelona & Bayern Munich are the destination for the world's best players. There is a lot of money in the EPL, so that obviously will attract talent, but the best talent in the EPL is foreign.
 
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Bass-Invader

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This may be true.

But doesn't England have more elite level football teams (per capita) than really anywhere else on earth.

Like what country has more 40,000+ seat football stadiums for a place the population than England?

I know a LOT of countries are soccer crazy, but wouldn't one say England overall is the biggest destination for professional soccer?

Those teams consist of players from all over the world. During the world cup those players will play for their own national teams. For example Suarez plays for Liverpool, but he is from Uruguay and indeed scored the two goals for Uruguay that defeated England last week. Therefore the fact that the English have more teams doesn't really mean anything when it comes to the English national team.

I'm not a football expert, but I asked an English co-worker why a country with as large a population as England would not statistically produce enough football prodgies to do well in the cup. He basically said:

The practice of Championship and Premier league clubs is to simply buy the best players, regardless of nationality. That means that the quality of the players on their teams is a cross section of the best in the world.

The result is that budding English footballers are crowded out of the big teams in their own country because they compete with the rest of the world to get on to those teams. This means that when you lose the international players and go looking for purely English players for your world cup team, there are far fewer experienced players to choose from.

Contrast that to the Bundesliga (German league) which has loads of money in it and more rules to encourage teams to take German players. Their world cup team is experienced at a high level.

That sounds like a pretty reasonable explanation. Obviously there are loads of other factors in play, but the reasoning expounded in this thread that England putting loads of money into football should mean their team should be better is flawed.
 

SJN

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hmmm. I just remember when Canada really sucked (well even more than usual) and then all of a sudden we had these good guys on our team which allowed us to at least win a few matches here and there in world qualifying type matches.This was quite awhile ago, maybe we suck again really badly.

If memory serves, Canada hasn't even made it to the final round of CONCACAF region qualifying since 1998. We're something like the 10th best country within CONCACAF.
 

glych t.anomaly

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Jai you don't know a bloody thing about footie mate...lolz


right i know nothing, but all the teams mentioned above are out.

How many players from Spain's team have seen at least two WC's if not three from before?

when they all leave, its a bunch of new young people that wont have the experience at a international level and wont have experience playing eachother.

lets say its takes them at least one to get their shit together, so that means we would see a relevant team again by 2022 unless by some miracle their 2018 offering is outstanding( which its not looking to be. )

The english team has done nothing but disappoint and couldnt even score on a second starting line against CR, they are fucking pathetic.

Italy's done so well ..... , fuck that they are a bunch of tired old men complaining and falling all over the place, and running around like they are on their last legs.

So, i may not be that ' guy ' that gets up and watches league matches to support ' my team ' but i can sure as fuck tell when a WC team is doing garbage and why.
 

SJN

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I know nothing about soccer, but I'm guessing if you had bet a triactor on England, Italy and Spain all crashing out in the first round you would have made a ton of money.
 
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rentboy

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JamesM

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I like this thread, It's the pedestrian version of the world cup, and football in general. Oh wait. Soccer. There.
 

Primavera

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football/soccer/futbol/footie is like my 7th favorite sport, hence the pedestrian thread.

I still stand by my assertion that Team England is the Toronto Maple Leafs of football.
 
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SJN

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I like this thread, It's the pedestrian version of the world cup, and football in general. Oh wait. Soccer. There.

Is there another thread somewhere for people who pretend to be soccer experts once every two years?
 

rentboy

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Suarez has received a ban of 9 international games as well as four months, meaning that he'll miss a good chunk of Liverpool's opening to the season, again.

Liverpool have worked hard to help him over the last year and he does this shit again. I doubt they'll be able to sell him as Barca and R.Madrid will most likely want nothing to do with him.
 
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rentboy

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At this point I need to know what the fuck was going on in his head. He needs to say why he did it and quit passing the buck onto the press.

He's pretty much blown Uruguay's chances of winning this, and Liverpool's title and Champion's League aspirations for next season. Four months out is huge and they may have profited on him as Barcelona were reportedly moving in to sign him.

He's a bonehead.
 
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