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Spider-man - Flawed Wild Ride

This film has been over ten years in the making and is Marvel's flagship comic book. There's a lot riding on this, and it should do well, but not spectacular.

With a half and half story of telling Spider-man's origin and his personal war with the green goblin, the film works well. It's a balanced, somewhat operatic thrill that has a lot going for it. A relateable character that has his own problems, stunning and fun action sequences, some very nicely cast characters (Toby McGuire makes for a decent Peter Parker and Spider-man when he's not CGI, also nice choice with J. Jonah Jameson). Also, it features a nicely paced story, that gets that frantic "Evil Dead" energy that Sam Raimi (the director) started out and is most famous for.

But the strength of this film is the camera work when the web slinging starts. We get an almost Spider-man POV with him zipping and swinging around New York. It's exhilarating, and I'm definitely going to go see this at the Cinesphere when it starts showing there. They know how to frame a shot and let you take in the action, without being too frantic (which was part of the problem with say, Blade 2 imho).

However, the film does have it's stumbling points, and that lies in the relationship between Peter Parker and Mary Jane. Both of them are fine by themselves, and in short, brief scenes they work well. But in long, extended takes and exchanges, you start to realize that Toby McGuire and Kirsten Dunst have absolutely no chemistry whatsoever. I've seen more sexual tension between Corky from Life Goes On and his girlfriend. It's awfully delivered, even earning giggles and stirring in the audience when Peter Parker and Mary Jane "share a moment".

The other part that I had a bit of trouble with, is the casting of Willem Dafoe in the role of Norman Osborne and Green Goblin. While he makes the most of what he's got, he's a little too cartoonish and over the top, making Jack Nicholson as the Joker look like a pantomime. He works in the role, but that's about it.

Still, this is a great summer kick off film. It is worth seeing and is a good comic book to movie adaptation, which is a feat unto itself. I did enjoy it and you can count on a sequel soon.

From the Ministry of good flick, but doesn't quite live up to the hype.

Prime Minister Highsteppa
 

JayIsBored

TRIBE Member
awww i like the fattyp review style much better. like damn james you didn't even tells us who dies at the end :p
 
Originally posted by JayIsBored
yes but it's also segmented and covered in long coarse hairs
He also shoots a lot of white sticky stuff all over the place. And he's fresh out of highschool.

From the Ministry of metaphore for puberty

Prime Minister Highsteppa
 
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Originally posted by el presidente Highsteppa
For the ladies.

Spider-man has a huge unit.
It's where he stores his sack of web.
 

redeyes

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by el presidente Highsteppa

I've seen more sexual tension between Corky from Life Goes On and his girlfriend.

Prime Minister Highsteppa
HA HA. that's classic.

peace
 

Stan

TRIBE Member
Yeah, but you left out the most important part of the review...

WHAT ABOUT THE GRATUITOUS WET T-SHIRT SCENE???
 

smile

TRIBE Member
kirsten dunst in a wet t-shirt?

how is this movie not being hailed as the greatest cinematic experience of this or any other century?
 
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Originally posted by Stan
Yeah, but you left out the most important part of the review...

WHAT ABOUT THE GRATUITOUS WET T-SHIRT SCENE???
You're being mislead. She's wearing a bra in it.

From the Ministry of this is a PG movie, not a porno.

Prime Minister Highsteppa
 
Originally posted by OTIS
ok,
I'm not reading the first post cuz I've got tickets for 9:45
is it a review James?
Yup a brief one before I commit one to the magazine. No spoilers, nothing given away, but I know how you don't want to go in with any expectations, so avoid it entirely :)

From the Ministry of let me know what you think

Prime Minister Highsteppa
 

djcheezwhiz

TRIBE Member
went to see this movie today & had an amazing time...i had my doubts prior to seeing it...wasn't too sure if it would be too over the top, too kiddy or just plain dumb...but thank goodness it was none of these...a few of my friends nit picked about certain scenes, but it definitely was a great ride...

definitely an enjoyable summer flick...in my opinion i believe this will stand the test of time better than batman...

i don't want to say much more, but i don't believe anyone seeing this movie will be disappointed... 2 big toes up :D

jc
 
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swenard

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I just went and saw "spidey" and some stupid movie with cameron diaz at the drive-in. I will say that spidey was very good. But, it could use a little work on certain scenes.

As for the movie with Cameron Diaz. It has no story line. It's just cameron and christina applegate dancing around half naked all of the time.
 

zoo

TRIBE Member
I saw SPIDERMAN tonight [opening night].

I thought it was good ... a nice PG rated flick anyone in the family could enjoy.

Casting was excellent .. acting was good .. writing was excellent .. in fact, I liked everything about this movie .. it reminds me of watching Batman for the first time .. or even one of the first two Indiana Jones movies [because the 3rd one was just phenomenal].

I liked everything .. except the final scene.

[Slight spoiler ... but not really, because you can see this a mile away in the movie]

Ugh ... what a disgustingly sappy way to end a movie.

When did their world hit some sort of strange emotion-worm hole where things change / get reversed before we have time to catch up?

Why on EARTH would MJ think she loves Peter?

What the fuck is Peter doing not banging MJ after that?

Someone in the audience shouted "SPIDERMAN'S A FAG" during this scene .. and honestly .. ugh.

Terrible ending scene.
 

pb4ugo2bed

TRIBE Member
I was acutally pleasantly suprised.....It was better than I was expecting. I thought Toby was a bad choice for spiderman but after watching the movie I think he's a perfect fit. This was the best $5.50 I've spent in a while.
 

Lil'Timmy

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WHAT A FUN FRIGGIN RIDE THAT WAS.

I was entertained, nuff said.

Cept the end, MJ poured it on a little thick.


Props to the MAcho Man and Bruce Campbell in the wrestling scene, and Willem Dafoe who was a great Green Goblin.

8/10 on this one...very cool.
 

OTIS

TRIBE Member
R.I.P. SPIDEY.

Although quite blunt, don't take the above statement in a wrong way. It's a personal idea that I'm now going to have to accept because Spiderman, my lovable believable comic-book friend is now Spider-man the Movie Star. His appeal has now been translated into a medium that has the capability to reach the easily exploitable and not necessarily literate ma$$es.

I have to accept that Spiderman, the likeable, genuine, real-guy-with-real-problems superhero as I knew and envisioned while reading the comic books throughout my childhood, will be, correction, is now dead. I have to accept his death because if I keep my idea of old spidey alive, then it only stands to get tarnished and cheapened with the inevitable onslaught of spider-man toys, clothes, bicicles, baby jumpers, canada's wonderland rides, and Spider-man II through X.

In no way am I renouncing my fan-hood through some elitist excocision. It's just the only way I'll keeping sarced, what has always been sacred to me. (can you tell that I'm a crazed uber-fan yet?)

With that sensless dribble (only worthy to fall on the ears of the Simsons comic book store owner guy) out of the way, on with the review.

I had a real problem dealing with Tobey Maguire being cast for the lead but I can now see why he was. My problem was that I grew up in the era of Spiderman where Peter Parker had already found himself, was an articulate cool character, had a fly pad in Soho, and had already put a ring on MJ's finger. Although I've read the origin of Spiderman countless times, I still forgot what a shy akward geeky teenager he used to be -a role which Tobey fit to a tee.

I realized what the director was thinking in casting Tobey when I saw the scene where Peter Parker was running to catch the school bus he was late for while his schoolmates taunted him. It gave the viewer a real feel for what a born-loser life Parker was living. I was relieved that the presence of Tobey wouldn't ruin the flick. But for future Spidey's, I think the lead should be reconsidered.

Kirsten Dunst played a very believable role in this flick, not that her character was too complex to begin with, she was pretty real, and I liked that. The rain scene didn't hurt either ;).

Although the dumb cackling of Green Goblin set the character back, I think Willem Dafoe pulled it off pretty well. I never really liked the Green Goblin character too much anyhow so even if the role was butchered I don't think I'd have cared much.

The animation sequences were something that looked a bit dated to me. Sure 10 years ago they would have been the shit! But nowadays animation technology has advanced to the point where it can be seemlessly integrated into live action as was not the case in this movie. All the CG sequences were not composited as well as they should have been and stood out like a sore thumb. It's most obvious with Spidey's movement which looks too rubbery and unprocessed. There is no real excuse for that exept if by accident, they hired some of the animators from ReBoot who've been stuck on a deserted island for the last 5 years.

Pretty much everything in this movie except for the MJ/ trolley full of kids ultimatum scene (where the idea was snatched from the death of Gwen Stacey story) was, to say the least, translated accurately into moving image with a slice of modern appeal. You couldn't go wrong with the storyline anyway since it's one that's 40 years classic.

Although I loved watching the image of Spiderman bounce around a screen for two hours, I'm not anticipating having to watch his image slapped on everything saleable from this point forward.

Rating:
8/10
 
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xtollo

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Originally posted by OTIS
I have to accept that Spiderman, the likeable, genuine, real-guy-with-real-problems superhero as I knew and envisioned while reading the comic books throughout my childhood, will be, correction, is now dead. I have to accept his death because if I keep my idea of old spidey alive, then it only stands to get tarnished and cheapened with the inevitable onslaught of spider-man toys, clothes, bicicles, baby jumpers, canada's wonderland rides, and Spider-man II through X.
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hahahah That sounds just like the introduction to my Nietzsche paper, where I had to argue why he thought that God was dead. muhahaha
There is no real excuse for that exept if by accident, they hired some of the animators from ReBoot who've been stuck on a deserted island for the last 5 years
LOL! I thought I was the only one who thought the animation was ghetto. There is no way in hell that was Skywalker Ranch working on that shit.

At the end of the day, it's all about the money. The fucking money comes and ruines everything.

xtollo <---- not a communist, but not a fan of capitalism, who's got the medium?
 

OTIS

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by xtollo

hahahah That sounds just like the introduction to my Nietzsche paper, where I had to argue why he thought that God was dead. muhahaha

hahah he was my God, I just realized how much influence reading his comic book has had on my life..
hahahh I'm a fanatical loser.
 

tommysmalls

TRIBE Member
i'm not much of a comic book guy, in fact i haven't read any spiderman or superman or fantastic four or xmen or batman or whatever comic books, so i won't come at this movie from an aficionado's p.o.v., but here's my review.

this movie was great

no overdone hollywood bullshit, no bullshit script, no bullshit bullshit - just a straight-up great movie about a super hero.

this gets 5 t's.

t t t t t

cheers,
tommy
 

kprior

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this was a totally good flick. Even to the point where everyone was mad at peter's decision about MJ at the end. When you get a reaction like that out of an audience, it usually means you've done something good.
 
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