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Speeding Ticket... PLEASE HELP!

AshG

Member
Originally posted by EffinHard
And what about abuse of the system? The cost to taxpayers is higher than the fucking $300 this guy is going to save. Im not going to sit here and advocate wasting public money because he doesnt want his insurance to go up.

not to be overlydramatic, but...

the citizen has a responsibility to see justice done.
and that is more important than any monetary cost.

understand that being charged with any offense is an accusation of guilt; an accusation only.
the accused has a right(and as i'm pretty strongly opionated about, a responsibility) to see a thorough defense.
we as a society benefit far more from this than by saving x amount of dollars simply because the justice system, and other members of society, encourage complacency on the part of the accused.
 
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~atp~

TRIBE Member
If you admit to being guilty, but want to go fight it in court anyway, you are trying to avoid the law at the cost of tax-payers money. If you succeed in fighting this in court, you have benefitted yourself, and harmed others. You have not improved the justice system, nor have you made better use of it.

It's really that simple. If, however, you are going to court because while you admit to being guilty, you are trying to fight the law itself as a form of dissent, then this might be a worthwhile venture.

But I think we all need to be sensitive to the fact that going to court is an option that affects all of us.
 

~atp~

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by AshG

the citizen has a responsibility to see justice done.
and that is more important than any monetary cost.

Damn right. But what if you're guilty? Isn't "justice" accepting the charge, if you're guilty?
 

AshG

Member
Originally posted by ~atp~
If you admit to being guilty, but want to go fight it in court anyway, you are trying to avoid the law at the cost of tax-payers money. If you succeed in fighting this in court, you have benefitted yourself, and harmed others. You have not improved the justice system, nor have you made better use of it.

It's really that simple. If, however, you are going to court because while you admit to being guilty, you are trying to fight the law itself as a form of dissent, then this might be a worthwhile venture.

But I think we all need to be sensitive to the fact that going to court is an option that affects all of us.

but i think very few people, aside of lawyers and legal aides, understand what guilt really is.
guilty of what?
i'd say 99% of all accused don't even know the relevant law with which they are being accused of violating.

they admit to guilt because the've been told they're guilty by someone whose job is not to decide these things; law enforcement agents.

generally though, i agree with you.
 
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