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So when does the new Hybrid Gardiner Expressway open?

alexd

Administrator
Staff member
Now that the bunch of loons at City Hall have voted to create a hybrid Gardiner Expressway, when is the ribbon cutting?
 

agentRC4

TRIBE Member
we need to add these types of votes onto election ballots. Vote for your counselor, mayor and a couple of big ticket items like this. If we could have voted on this it would have been a boulevard no questions asked. It would have passed with flying colors. Instead we have a bunch of back room deals with with Mayor and the counselors and get this.

That money would have gone a long way to fix up the TCHC mess.
 

acheron

TRIBE Member
might've actually gone worse if the people had their say - there are more people in the suburbs than there are downtown - and they don't give a shit what we urbanists think is a good idea.
 

agentRC4

TRIBE Member
so much $ for 3% of the population. beyond bat shit crazy.

The hybrid should have come with a toll at the 401/DVD and QEW at the border of Mississauga and Toronto
 
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djfear

TRIBE Member
They should have torn that motherfucker down, and between 630-930am they should have timed lights going west bound from Broadview (because that would now be an intersection @ Lakeshore) all the way to Yonge St, so you could effectively hit all greens. Then flip it starting at 2:30pm until 6:30pm in the opposite direction.

BAM. No delay. Saves hundreds of millions, and increases collected taxes by tens of millions.
 

KickIT

TRIBE Member
I'm in that 3% of the population and the hybrid won't save that much time. Because the on/off ramp to Lakeshore will be done, I still have to either trek north to Broadview to get on the DVP south or trek west to Jarvis to get on the Gardiner.
 
Yeah, I don't imagine this is going to make a noticeable difference with drivers, especially 4 years plus from now when there's even more traffic on the road.

You're not stuck in traffic, you ARE traffic when you're on the DVP/Lakeshore/Gardiner as per a person on Facebook said a couple of days ago.

And Rob Ford with the lone vote of "We should maintain it" - what a genius. Is he going to go for on site inspections like he was when he was mayor? Photo ops of him looking concerned isn't going to resolve the fucking problem.
 

greginhali

TRIBE Member
i still dont even get what is hybrid about it?

John Tory will have to win the next three elections to see this through. If not some other moron will just change the plan to something else. It will stay the same for years to come.
 
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basketballjones

TRIBE Member
never
it will be reopened and then reopened again just like everything
they will pay for study after study and by the time we hit the year 3000 a decision will be made to defer it til they get some more studies done
 

Ho||yw0oD

TRIBE Member
[- FuNKtiOn -];4700237 said:
construction starts in 2019.
Great. Can't wait until the 2018 election won by a candidate who promises to scrap this (Rob Ford round 2?) and then we go back to the drawing board and we do nothing except pay consultancy fees for another four years of inaction.
 

greginhali

TRIBE Member
all of this pisses me off. This is fucked when it comes to getting things done. I can hardly wait to cash in on the house and move back to the forest.
 

Snuffy

TRIBE Member
Great. Can't wait until the 2018 election won by a candidate who promises to scrap this (Rob Ford round 2?) and then we go back to the drawing board and we do nothing except pay consultancy fees for another four years of inaction.
Ford will scrap this like he did Transit City. He'll then rebuild the Gardiner and finish the Spadina Expressway, finally reuniting all of Toronto's highways in 1950s city-planning utopia!
 
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If Ford did that, he's be spending money (ergo in his own terminology, gravy) - he doesn't want to deal with it at all, other than show up at emergency repairs for a photo op.
 

djfear

TRIBE Member
Where is David Soknacki when you need him? Can someone please... get David on the phone so he can make sense of all this!

Anyway... this is what we need:

1. Light rail in Scarborough
2. Tear down the Gardiner, then bury the strachan-yonge portion.
3. Queen St subway
4. downtown relief line
5. Get rid of all street cars that do not have dedicated tracks
6. implement smart lights on specific one-way streets to speed up cross town traffic.

5 & 6 would really help the central part of the city moving. All the increased tax base from tearing down the Gardiner would help pay for burying part of it.

Nothing can go wrong with this plan. :p
 

kirstenmeows

TRIBE Member
Where is David Soknacki when you need him? Can someone please... get David on the phone so he can make sense of all this!

Anyway... this is what we need:

1. Light rail in Scarborough
2. Tear down the Gardiner, then bury the strachan-yonge portion.
3. Queen St subway
4. downtown relief line
5. Get rid of all street cars that do not have dedicated tracks
6. implement smart lights on specific one-way streets to speed up cross town traffic.

5 & 6 would really help the central part of the city moving. All the increased tax base from tearing down the Gardiner would help pay for burying part of it.

Nothing can go wrong with this plan. :p
Please stop being sensible. You'll make heads explode. :p
 

diablo

TRIBE Member
Anyway... this is what we need:

1. Light rail in Scarborough
2. Tear down the Gardiner, then bury the strachan-yonge portion.
3. Queen St subway
4. downtown relief line
5. Get rid of all street cars that do not have dedicated tracks
6. implement smart lights on specific one-way streets to speed up cross town traffic.
 
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Ho||yw0oD

TRIBE Member
Where is David Soknacki when you need him? Can someone please... get David on the phone so he can make sense of all this!

Anyway... this is what we need:

1. Light rail in Scarborough
2. Tear down the Gardiner, then bury the strachan-yonge portion.
3. Queen St subway
4. downtown relief line
5. Get rid of all street cars that do not have dedicated tracks
6. implement smart lights on specific one-way streets to speed up cross town traffic.

5 & 6 would really help the central part of the city moving. All the increased tax base from tearing down the Gardiner would help pay for burying part of it.

Nothing can go wrong with this plan. :p
djfear 2018
 
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