so is anyone watching degrassi right now?

[Plato]

welll at least they arent calling it "X"

p[l]a+0

 

[Lil'Timmy]

It's..uh...interesting..

Oh Ash, Oh Spinner, Oh blonde-bitchy-chick, what adventures will you get into next?

 

[SUNKIST]

haha yeah. i like how the pill was the size of a penny.

 

[Guest]

A, B, C, D, E

 

[Plato]

21c is interesting

p[l]a+0

 

[Lil'Timmy]

Ok, best quote evar.

The raver kid telling the cop what the drugs are, observing a drug and asking

"Can I please have this?"

(shakes head) Jesus.

 

[deep]

Originally posted by SUNKIST
haha yeah. i like how the pill was the size of a penny.

Otherwise it'd be too small for the camera

 

[SUNKIST]

Originally posted by Lil'Timmy
Ok, best quote evar.

The raver kid telling the cop what the drugs are, observing a drug and asking

"Can I please have this?"

(shakes head) Jesus.

omg i saw that. and he was the dirtiest fuck i've ever seen. he looked like he has been consuming bags of drugs.

 

[Plato]

hthe cop had a good point about the pill testing kits not teasting to see if k is in the pill.
does k work orally though??
(postmod??)

but i think everyone knows its an aneasthetic and used by vets, like come on!

p[l]a+0

 

[alexd]

21c is so 1999. yawn.

 

[SUNKIST]

Originally posted by Plato
but i think everyone knows its an aneasthetic and used by vets, like come on!

p[l]a+0

i thought that too. the guy was acting like he was letting out a big secret. did you know? its an anesthetic?! used by vets! umm...ya.

 

[feisty boy]

Originally posted by Plato
hthe cop had a good point about the pill testing kits not teasting to see if k is in the pill.
does k work orally though??
(postmod??)

but i think everyone knows its an aneasthetic and used by vets, like come on!

p[l]a+0

yes, k works orally...

check out dancesafe pill tests to see just how ineffective those testing kits are - they've got pills upwards of 70% ketamine, with a little mdma, that test as mdma with an ez test - that's almost doing more harm than good, by instilling false confidence.

 

[PosTMOd]

Originally posted by Plato
hthe cop had a good point about the pill testing kits not teasting to see if k is in the pill.
does k work orally though??
(postmod??)

but i think everyone knows its an aneasthetic and used by vets, like come on!

p[l]a+0

Ketamine DOES work orally, however, you need a pretty good dose (at least over 100mg, whereas most pills weigh 300mg total with binders and crap).

Taste test can tell you if there is k in a pill

 

[PosTMOd]

Originally posted by feisty boy
check out dancesafe pill tests to see just how ineffective those testing kits are - they've got pills upwards of 70% ketamine, with a little mdma, that test as mdma with an ez test - that's almost doing more harm than good, by instilling false confidence.

I want you to crush some imaginary numbers:

Assume that 80% of pills on the street are pure mdma, and 20% are not.

Assume that 80% of pills that are questioned are sent in to dancesafe, while only 20% of "good" pills are sent in.

Calculate what percentage of pills on the dancesafe site would show up "bad" with those assumptions.

Screw with those assumptions a bit, and you can see why looking on dancesafe will NOT give you a good idea of what is in pills.

 

[PosTMOd]

Just so you don't have to do the math:

Out of 100 pills, 80 are good, 20 are bad.

Out of the 20 bad, 80% are sent in: = 16

Out of the 80 good, 20% are sent in: = 16

So, it looks to you like 50% of pills are bad.

M'kay?

 

[feisty boy]

Originally posted by PosTMOd


Screw with those assumptions a bit, and you can see why looking on dancesafe will NOT give you a good idea of what is in pills.

i don't think dancesafe is at all an indication of what's out there - and i would never look to their pill analysis to tell me what's in a pill (copycat pills anyone?)

i was just making the point of how misleading home testing kits can be, based on their lab analyses.

 

[mandapanda]

at least it provided me with an hour's worth of amusement.

 

[seeker]

degrassi sucked.

21c was okay. still had the (expected) FUD from the cops. feisty boy mentioned copycat pills, which is something i wanted to shout at the TV when the cop was testing his pill as a demo. he was saying "...it's turning purple-black, which is an indicator of MDMA, but i had these same pills tested last summer and they came back XX% ketamine." that was so long ago, they most likely aren't the same batch (#include <disclaimer.h> -- the show could have been taped months ago too), so how can you be sure?

anyway, in a forum like this we're bound to draw similar conclusions. but i think for the average joe, the show presented a fairly balanced outlook, which was most pleasing for a prime-time news magazine on national television.

at least they didn't say that all pills have heroin in them.

 

[PosTMOd]

Originally posted by feisty boy
i was just making the point of how misleading home testing kits can be, based on their lab analyses.

On the first page of dancesafe, I count 20 out of 25 pills with MDMA or MDA... all of them tested "properly" by turning purple black with the test kit.

The five pills that weren't didn't change colour, or changed a strange colour.

 

[vox]

Degrassi has had problems getting the size of drugs right before. i remember that old episode in which the guy takes a hit of acid before heading into a concert (and consequently off a bridge). This hit was like the size of five or six blotters put together. I saw the episode later on as a re-run and laughed my ass off.

 

[Hal-9000]

^^oops, that was me.

cookies > hal-9000

 

[Plato]

GO TEAM HIGHJACK GO!

did anyone go on the C21 chat? i just got kicked out a few minutes ago. booooo!!!

topics i discussed and brought to their forum:

proper pronunciation of nutella
licking the user e-tarded
caffeine addiction vs liking the taste of coffee
gino trance heads who try to pick me up at clubs and humping a friend
prom 2001
reading drug lit for school and shooting heroin druing a seminar presentation
licking the user darknemesis
sex
showers on e
selling my body to japanese business men for crack
a comparison between drug addiction and prada shoe shopping addiction
fat pepsi drinkers
what people were wearing
the cost of a pill in your area
sex

p[l]a+0 <---i rock

 

[feisty boy]

Originally posted by PosTMOd


On the first page of dancesafe, I count 20 out of 25 pills with MDMA or MDA... all of them tested "properly" by turning purple black with the test kit.

The five pills that weren't didn't change colour, or changed a strange colour.

Yellow Butterfly
8.0 x 4.0
244mg
Houston, TX
July, 2001
MDMA (11.8%)
Ketamine (58.8%)
Unidentified Compound (29.4%)
typical (black/purple)


i don't mean to extend this discussion too far - i do see your point. most pills are clean, or cut with harmless fillers etc. and hell, that much ketamine taken orally is only a threshold dose for an average person.

but it is kind of alarming to see a test like that, when you think about he attitude of a lot of drug users out there... we all know it only takes one idiot to pop 5 pills and cause a media uproar.

ah well... i digress

 

[PosTMOd]

I understand your point too... a positive test doesn't necessarily mean that much... however, a definitely negative one can be very helpful...

People need to learn what different things taste like And when not sure of what is in a pill, take only ONE OR LESS, and wait at least 2 hours before deciding what's in it...


244 mg pill will have about 100mg binders/lubricants/glidants/disintegrants

So, 58% of 144 = ~83mg ketamine...

Guy takes 5 pills.... gets 400mg ketamine... meh, probably shouldn't drive for a couple of hours

LD50 of ketamine orally is frikkin' high... you'd have to eat 100 of those pills to be in a serious situation...

 

[tella]

Re: GO TEAM HIGHJACK GO!

Originally posted by Plato
did anyone go on the C21 chat? i just got kicked out a few minutes ago. booooo!!!

topics i discussed and brought to their forum:

proper pronunciation of nutella
p[l]a+0 <---i rock

i'm glad i'm not the only one who concerns herself over issues involving nutella.