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Beer babe

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Not sure if this was posted, but Matt Galloway mentioned this on Metro Morning yesterday: Gun deaths in the 31 days after the Newtown shooting: graphic | Graphics | News | National Post

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I_bRAD

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How many americans were killed in car accidents over the past month? I don't hear anyone proposing a ban on cars.
 

I_bRAD

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It would appear the answer is approximately 40000/yr or about 3X as many as are killed by guns. Have you seen the new corvette?
 
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I_bRAD

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You could argue public schools are a much bigger benefit to society than cars, so by that logic if 60000 kids/yr died at school whether it was a crazed gunman or just falling at recess then you'd still be ahead of the game
 
How many americans were killed in car accidents over the past month? I don't hear anyone proposing a ban on cars.

I don't know, how many mass murders with cars are there? And yeah, once we conclude that cars are created with the sole purpose of killing someone, your analogy will make sense.
 

I_bRAD

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I don't know, how many mass murders with cars are there? And yeah, once we conclude that cars are created with the sole purpose of killing someone, your analogy will make sense.

If they get rid of guns perhaps there will be more. I'm sure if one looked there have been people that lost it and drove through a crowd. Or perhaps if you subscribe to the terrorist newsletter you'd see that cars are a handy container for bombs. Lots of those "shootings" listed above are also accidents, not murders. Crazy is crazy and whether you use a gun a knife or a car the end result is the same.

And who said guns are strictly for killing people? They work just great for target shooting and hunting. Or even just for collecting.
 
If they get rid of guns perhaps there will be more. I'm sure if one looked there have been people that lost it and drove through a crowd. Or perhaps if you subscribe to the terrorist newsletter you'd see that cars are a handy container for bombs. Lots of those "shootings" listed above are also accidents, not murders. Crazy is crazy and whether you use a gun a knife or a car the end result is the same.

Yeah, and a gun makes it infinitely easier to kill someone.

Why is it always an all or nothing scenario with gun proponents, like they will only say that a gun should be restricted or banned is if death is eliminated altogether?

Also, if mental health is truly your concern, then why the opposition to registering and background checks on gun owners? Is it because maybe the gobbletygook you posted above might hint at being deemed paranoid along with the rest of the "patriots" that feel their need to protect themselves from the Tyrannical/Socialist government or the criminal boogeyman that they fantasize about?

And who said guns are strictly for killing people? They work just great for target shooting and hunting. Or even just for collecting.

Lol. I see, that's what makes for a ghetto pass with gun owners. "I'm just collectin' the assault rifles and them 30 round magazines!"

I see plenty that collect cars - the minute they start going on killing sprees with the restored '57 Chevy's or any other vehicle in a school yard and start to approach the murder rate of gun violence, I'll be right by your side advocating the same "common sense" you're advocating.
 
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i wouldnt think so. how many people gets killed via car vs people killed by a gun yearly?

I don't see cars being classified as a distance weapon unless you're Godzilla or Gigantor or some shit like that - picking them up and throwing them.

The gun vs. car debate is false equivalence. It's a more ridiculous comparison than anything they show on Deadliest Warrior.
 

kirstenmeows

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Put it this way, how many people are shot by a gun on purpose vs. people run down by cars on purpose in a calendar year? There's no doubt that cars cause more fatalities, but I think it's safe to say that guns cause far more intended fatalities.
 

assassaint

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Put it this way, how many people are shot by a gun on purpose vs. people run down by cars on purpose in a calendar year? There's no doubt that cars cause more fatalities, but I think it's safe to say that guns cause far more intended fatalities.

fair enough. but would you say, for the sake of an argument, that driving under then influence is similar to giving a gun to a mentally disturbed individual?

you cant put all gun owners in the same basket.
 
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NemIsis

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And for sake of argument, they've reduced the drinking liimit, and you can't swing a cat around without hitting a police officer or RIDE on a holiday weekend, so what is your point?
 

acheron

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Yeah I don't see police officers doing spot checks on gun owners to see how their mental state is coming along...
 

praktik

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Anomaly hunting will never die... some of the evidence being bandied about: an "impossible" twitter timestamp implying foreknowledge...
 
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NemIsis

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Yeah I don't see police officers doing spot checks on gun owners to see how their mental state is coming along...

After watching Alex Jones on television, that may not be such a bad idea. :p

An old friend has gone off the rails. He's been posting all sorts of conspiracy theory crap on facebook (including the shootings) from some bizarre fb page that includes alien theories etc., . I haven't seen him in 8-10 years but I never figured him for it. ffs.
 

technowelt

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Yeah I don't see police officers doing spot checks on gun owners to see how their mental state is coming along...

When applying for or renewing your PAL, you are required to disclose if you have been diagnosed or treated for mental illness or substance abuse.
 

technowelt

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And how many mentally ill people would actually admit to being mentally ill?

They also require you provide two character references and contact information for your spouse (and any former spouses within last 2 years). Its probably not perfect, but what alternative would you recommend?
 
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