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Shake Ur Body video...
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if that review was written by an english person...s/he has no right to criticize a person's dancing...just watch some of the videos on the arena and you'll understand what i'm saying.
as for the video for shake it..yeah it is kinda ass but didja see the video for original nuttah? it's rude...the video suits the track perfectly...
kosheen's video for catch has a very jonas aukerland type feel to it.
as for the video for shake it..yeah it is kinda ass but didja see the video for original nuttah? it's rude...the video suits the track perfectly...
kosheen's video for catch has a very jonas aukerland type feel to it.
Stormshadow
TRIBE Member
if you want a good laugh, check out the Virus video at the bottom of the page.
I think they just recoded Win Amp visuals.
I think they just recoded Win Amp visuals.
Mos def...
I'd have to say that Nuttah is one of the best and most important dnb video's out there. I remember seeing it debut on MTV back in the day and nothing has been the same fo me (and I'm sure many others) since.
Honorable mentions got out to:
Goldie's Inner City Life and Reprazent's Brown Paper Bag.
Tricky kid
TRIBE Member
boo this
Empire Squad
TRIBE Member
Once again, the people have spoken and once again the Jungle / Drum n Bass industry has fucked up by making a 'cheezy video' for Shake ur Body.
You guys are amazing. If all of you out there can't see the benefits of this video for JUNGLE MUSIC... then you are only watching, and not seeing.
O.K., the video isn't the best. BUT, when was the last time any of you looked into making a music video (i.e. costs, timing, etc.). I know that seems like an odd question, but fuck. This is SHY FX, not Micheal Jackson. I think what they did was wicked on the minimal budget that they had to work with. Not to many artists have oppartunities like this to hit new medias. This is the shit the industry needs to push the music worldwide. And all you 'TRUE HEADZ' slag it and bring it down, instead of looking at the bright side and positively accepting this as being next level shit, WORLDWIDE domination of Jungle music.
That is why I do what I do, WORLDWIDE recognition and record sales, and although things like this aren't everyones cup of tea, shit like this opens up the eyes of people who may never be blessed to experience Jungle/Drum n Bass up 'til now.
All these nit-picking, smart ass remarks about what OTHERS are doing in the scene pisses me off. If people really want to see this music flourish, then you are all going to have start picking at the positives and big that up, instead of picking away at the negatives and down-playing what guys like Shy Fx are doing, who is a long time veteran in the scene and for that reason alone people should be biggin' him up for this accomplishment.
I hate posting like this on these fucking gassip boards, makes me sick. But shit like this just pisses me off way to much to ignore it.
Apologies if I offended anyone.
Peace
Ruckus
You guys are amazing. If all of you out there can't see the benefits of this video for JUNGLE MUSIC... then you are only watching, and not seeing.
O.K., the video isn't the best. BUT, when was the last time any of you looked into making a music video (i.e. costs, timing, etc.). I know that seems like an odd question, but fuck. This is SHY FX, not Micheal Jackson. I think what they did was wicked on the minimal budget that they had to work with. Not to many artists have oppartunities like this to hit new medias. This is the shit the industry needs to push the music worldwide. And all you 'TRUE HEADZ' slag it and bring it down, instead of looking at the bright side and positively accepting this as being next level shit, WORLDWIDE domination of Jungle music.
That is why I do what I do, WORLDWIDE recognition and record sales, and although things like this aren't everyones cup of tea, shit like this opens up the eyes of people who may never be blessed to experience Jungle/Drum n Bass up 'til now.
All these nit-picking, smart ass remarks about what OTHERS are doing in the scene pisses me off. If people really want to see this music flourish, then you are all going to have start picking at the positives and big that up, instead of picking away at the negatives and down-playing what guys like Shy Fx are doing, who is a long time veteran in the scene and for that reason alone people should be biggin' him up for this accomplishment.
I hate posting like this on these fucking gassip boards, makes me sick. But shit like this just pisses me off way to much to ignore it.
Apologies if I offended anyone.
Peace
Ruckus
i understand what you're saying but i sort of disagree with you. when someone puts something out, whether it be a tune or video, they put themselves up for criticism. now i'll admit the criticisms on this thread (including mine "it's ass") weren't very constructive but i can only speak for myself when i say that i wasn't really criticizing the effort, moreso the final product. i respect shy f/x (esp. after all the shite ppl have been talking bout him selling out re:shake your body's success) for putting out a really good tune that happened to become a huge hit in the uk and for trying to take it to another "level" but in my opinion the video *really* is cheesey. mind you, i think most music videos (including the michael jackson big budget videos) are cheesey. it doesn't change my opinion of the tune or of shy f/x and i think more people should be making as much efforts as he is in making drum and bass a perpetual sound.
i don't understand why i can't slag off a video if i think its shit. Does my opinion not count? Should I openly endorse anything that is jungle just so it gets worldwide recognition?? Thats bullshit IMO. I don't care if it gets recognition or not, its not gonna change me liking drum & bass. Mainstream makes no difference to me. There have been a few jungle video's, and alot of 'em are MUCH better than this one(innercity life, Original Nuttah, that one for breakbeat era, etc..), so why must i dick suck Shy FX??
And don't give me the "if you don't like it, do it yourself" bullshit. I'm not a fucking video producer, nor do i care to be. But i do have my opinions, and just because its a drum & bass video, I'm not gonna pretend i like it
sorry for the rant
And don't give me the "if you don't like it, do it yourself" bullshit. I'm not a fucking video producer, nor do i care to be. But i do have my opinions, and just because its a drum & bass video, I'm not gonna pretend i like it
sorry for the rant
Tricky kid
TRIBE Member
i think way back i saw a video for photeks - ni itchi ten i thought that was pretty dope...
i like the shake ur body track
don't like the video...and budgets mean shit...low budget things can still be dope
i don't think this message board is totally negative there are a lot of positive things said about drum and bass but i think that the negative things get more attention, more hits, more views
this is a discussion board so we discuss
i like the shake ur body track
don't like the video...and budgets mean shit...low budget things can still be dope
i don't think this message board is totally negative there are a lot of positive things said about drum and bass but i think that the negative things get more attention, more hits, more views
this is a discussion board so we discuss
Senior Ruckus:
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I think what they did was wicked on the minimal budget that they had to work with.
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This video is pants...with the same budget I could have bought the digital camera's to keep, copped a better concept from my kid sister's drawing book and edited that bitch with 2 VCR's, and a few RCA cables. The budget, or lack there of (although I'm sure EMI chipped in a dime or two) is no excuse.
Case and point:
Did you see the Polar video on the same page?
Or even the music video for (pi)r^2 by Clint Mansell?
I'd argue that those video's didn't have half the budget put into Shake UR Body and they're classics.
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shit like this opens up the eyes of people who may never be blessed to experience Jungle/Drum n Bass up 'til now.
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I think that's exactly why we should allow ourselves to be overly critical about this video and the way the scene that we call our own is represented in the media or mass-consciousness. This video is no more than a poor Hype Williams knockoff. The opening of Belly as Nas/Shy FX and T- Power are walking in, the club scene straight from Still Dre, the singer Di in all sorts of leather from a Missy video, throw in some bad popping and locking and put the whole production on 3 E's with some glowsticks and there you have it. Hiphop video's are dodgy enough to start with, bad hiphop video's made for dnb anthems even worse.
In total, I think it is a poor representation of the scene and an even more pathetic jump off point for an outsider looking in.
I'll end with a quote for you to consider...something I once read Fresh from )EIB( say on a similar note:
"some of us live in this 'scene' and care about the way it is perceived...it means more to us than the sum of its high hat patterns, basslines and sampled drum breaks."
Oh and Ruckus, nice set @ Fever last week.
What was that teched-out number you mixed into 'ska'?
The one with the craaaazy ass intro.
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I think what they did was wicked on the minimal budget that they had to work with.
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This video is pants...with the same budget I could have bought the digital camera's to keep, copped a better concept from my kid sister's drawing book and edited that bitch with 2 VCR's, and a few RCA cables. The budget, or lack there of (although I'm sure EMI chipped in a dime or two) is no excuse.
Case and point:
Did you see the Polar video on the same page?
Or even the music video for (pi)r^2 by Clint Mansell?
I'd argue that those video's didn't have half the budget put into Shake UR Body and they're classics.
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shit like this opens up the eyes of people who may never be blessed to experience Jungle/Drum n Bass up 'til now.
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I think that's exactly why we should allow ourselves to be overly critical about this video and the way the scene that we call our own is represented in the media or mass-consciousness. This video is no more than a poor Hype Williams knockoff. The opening of Belly as Nas/Shy FX and T- Power are walking in, the club scene straight from Still Dre, the singer Di in all sorts of leather from a Missy video, throw in some bad popping and locking and put the whole production on 3 E's with some glowsticks and there you have it. Hiphop video's are dodgy enough to start with, bad hiphop video's made for dnb anthems even worse.
In total, I think it is a poor representation of the scene and an even more pathetic jump off point for an outsider looking in.
I'll end with a quote for you to consider...something I once read Fresh from )EIB( say on a similar note:
"some of us live in this 'scene' and care about the way it is perceived...it means more to us than the sum of its high hat patterns, basslines and sampled drum breaks."
Oh and Ruckus, nice set @ Fever last week.
What was that teched-out number you mixed into 'ska'?
The one with the craaaazy ass intro.
Tricky kid
TRIBE Member
^^^^^^well said
Stormshadow
TRIBE Member
Word.
I posted a reply a few hours ago...but for some reason it didn't show up. What everyone else said pretty much covers what I posted though.
Ryan, nobody is putting down the DnB scene simply by not liking a video. If we HAVE to like and support everything that our scene produces, then that leads to complacency and mediocrity.
If Shy FX wants to open up jungle to a larger audience, more power to him...he's put in his dues. But he shouldn't do it with some Destiny's Child ripoff video.
Empire Squad
TRIBE Member
You guys completely missed what my point was but that's cool because I see what you guys are getting at and you are all entitled to your own opinions. I don't think it's the greatest video either, but when you factor in everything such as Expense Budget, the Market that they are positioning the song/video towards, etc. it does what it's supposed to do... and for that Shy and Crew DESERVE a little more respect then calling it 'ASS' and saying it sucks.
What makes you think that they made the video for Junglists anyway? Anyone with eyes and a brain can see that the video is directed to a main-stream market. Why? To attract new face and a more diverse listenership to our music, for that SHY gets a the MOST PROPS!
Just because I don't like something and you don't like something, doesn't mean it's ass or that it sucks or anything. This is the WORLD WIDE WEB and everyone and anyone around the world can come on here and read this shit, so how are we supposed to grow as an industry WORLDWIDE when everytime someone in the industry does something constructive, it gets put down?
I just get bent up when people who claim that they are HEADZ in the scene, can't understand that the only way to make this music big around the globe is by telling the people who don't have a clue, that this is the shit. Remember that 'the average Joe' doesn't know any better, but if the first thing they see/hear is that something is sucks or is shit... then what do you think they are going to think?
This does not have anything to do with personal opinion, it is about how we as FANS represent what do and what we are into to the public, who really don't know. If you don't like something, fine... but at least look at the positive side of things and concentrate somewhat on that. Especially when it is being posted up on the worlds biggest bulletin board.
I hated the internet!
Peace
Ruckus
What makes you think that they made the video for Junglists anyway? Anyone with eyes and a brain can see that the video is directed to a main-stream market. Why? To attract new face and a more diverse listenership to our music, for that SHY gets a the MOST PROPS!
Just because I don't like something and you don't like something, doesn't mean it's ass or that it sucks or anything. This is the WORLD WIDE WEB and everyone and anyone around the world can come on here and read this shit, so how are we supposed to grow as an industry WORLDWIDE when everytime someone in the industry does something constructive, it gets put down?
I just get bent up when people who claim that they are HEADZ in the scene, can't understand that the only way to make this music big around the globe is by telling the people who don't have a clue, that this is the shit. Remember that 'the average Joe' doesn't know any better, but if the first thing they see/hear is that something is sucks or is shit... then what do you think they are going to think?
This does not have anything to do with personal opinion, it is about how we as FANS represent what do and what we are into to the public, who really don't know. If you don't like something, fine... but at least look at the positive side of things and concentrate somewhat on that. Especially when it is being posted up on the worlds biggest bulletin board.
I hated the internet!
Peace
Ruckus
Stormshadow
TRIBE Member
Well maybe that's the problem I have with it.
Good music shouldn't be forced on people...they should find it themselves.
You're just coming from a business / money stand point...to some of us jungle/DnB is an escape from all the money-driven music that runs the world.
exactly.
Rukkus, you said in your first post that you do what you do for worldwide recognition and record sales. I'm not saying its true, but from what you said it sounds as though your only in it for the money, trying to GET as much from the scene as you can. I think its the wrong attitude, but who am i to say that. We all have our own reasons why we do what we do.
I love drum & bass, but i don't think that i shouldn't be able to critizise(sp?) it. Maximum respect to Shy for what he does, over the years he's produced anthem after anthem, and has probably brought alot of new people into the scene. I think thats great, but if I don't like something, i'm gonna say it.
There is ALOT of really shitty jungle being put out as well as good tunes. If we don't stand up and say "i don't like that", then whats to stop a shitload of half-assed producers putting out nothing but crap. Then our scene loses the recognition it has, and in turn, the fans.
Respect
I see both points to this arguement but i just need to exclaim one point that was made. There is a whole lot of crap being released these days in Drum and Bass and my honest opinion of this video is not that positive. It was definitly made for the main stream MTV, BET , Much music and what ever they have there in UK. There is nothing wrong with that at all and i have much respect for Shy Fx for everything he brings to the scene although we are entitled to our opinion and i only recent 1 comment you made Ruckus. You said...
"If people really want to see this music flourish, then you are all going to have start picking at the positives and big that up, instead of picking away at the negatives and down-playing what guys like Shy Fx are doing, who is a long time veteran in the scene and for that reason alone people should be biggin' him up for this accomplishment. "
I do agree he is a veteran and i know every drum and bass head (including myself) has mad respect for him but just because he has been around that long does not mean we are going to nodd and smile at every track he releases now because that would just create a very lazy producer and we would only be getting spam tracks from all the veterans. We have to speak out this is the only way the producers know if they are created new sounds that the people are appreciating. I doubt you as a DJ would want someone saying your spinning a sick set everytime just because you are a veteran of the scene even if they thought it was bad. It insulting really....
All in all the track is fun to listen to yet the video i am not to fond of but i still have all the respect i had for Shy fx and i know he is just testing the flood gates here so i guess we can see what happens now.
Much respect to you Ruckus, my example about your sets was just an example and i have the upmost respect for you as a DJ...
True Blue
"If people really want to see this music flourish, then you are all going to have start picking at the positives and big that up, instead of picking away at the negatives and down-playing what guys like Shy Fx are doing, who is a long time veteran in the scene and for that reason alone people should be biggin' him up for this accomplishment. "
I do agree he is a veteran and i know every drum and bass head (including myself) has mad respect for him but just because he has been around that long does not mean we are going to nodd and smile at every track he releases now because that would just create a very lazy producer and we would only be getting spam tracks from all the veterans. We have to speak out this is the only way the producers know if they are created new sounds that the people are appreciating. I doubt you as a DJ would want someone saying your spinning a sick set everytime just because you are a veteran of the scene even if they thought it was bad. It insulting really....
All in all the track is fun to listen to yet the video i am not to fond of but i still have all the respect i had for Shy fx and i know he is just testing the flood gates here so i guess we can see what happens now.
Much respect to you Ruckus, my example about your sets was just an example and i have the upmost respect for you as a DJ...
True Blue
recoil
TRIBE Member
i haven't checked the Shake Your Body video yet- actually i don't even know how it goes, but it was nice to see that Original Nuttah video again
shit i've only seen it on TV once before - and that was right back at the start of 95- ages ago
from the same time period, does anyone else remember the video for Greater Love with Elizabeth Troy? ..the one where she is getting milk poured all over her?
shit i've only seen it on TV once before - and that was right back at the start of 95- ages ago
from the same time period, does anyone else remember the video for Greater Love with Elizabeth Troy? ..the one where she is getting milk poured all over her?
hey there, long time viewer, first time poster...
My 2 cents are, that I won't slag or praise the video, but my feelings toward it is simple. I think the video suits the song almost perfectly. I mean you can say how dope polar's video is, or original nuttah, but those video's fit those songs. I couldn't see a polar type video for shake your body. The song (shake your body) is geared towards the mainstream, so the video is definatly an end product to it. If anybody here can suggest a better plot for the video, then kudos to them. It's definatly not the best (I'm not down to get jiggy that often) video for dn'b (personally I love squarepusher's "come my selecta"), but it's what they came up with. And I'm really not surprised. Glad to see a strong support of the people wanting to see drum n' bass be put out in a good light instead of just letting the corporate music scene dictate it for us. Considering that quite a few new dn'b songs will be signed to majors over the next couple of months, it will be interested to see what their videos look like.
http://djproph.cjb.net
My 2 cents are, that I won't slag or praise the video, but my feelings toward it is simple. I think the video suits the song almost perfectly. I mean you can say how dope polar's video is, or original nuttah, but those video's fit those songs. I couldn't see a polar type video for shake your body. The song (shake your body) is geared towards the mainstream, so the video is definatly an end product to it. If anybody here can suggest a better plot for the video, then kudos to them. It's definatly not the best (I'm not down to get jiggy that often) video for dn'b (personally I love squarepusher's "come my selecta"), but it's what they came up with. And I'm really not surprised. Glad to see a strong support of the people wanting to see drum n' bass be put out in a good light instead of just letting the corporate music scene dictate it for us. Considering that quite a few new dn'b songs will be signed to majors over the next couple of months, it will be interested to see what their videos look like.
http://djproph.cjb.net