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Serato 1.8 now in public beta!

dj_soo

TRIBE Member
http://scratchlive.net/forum/discussion/?discussion_id=57685 (you need to sign up for scratchlive.net account to d/load)

So far there are a few bugs, but the new features are incredibly sweet. Haven't tried it with a midi controller yet tho...


New Features:


MIDI Input
Scratch LIVE now supports MIDI input, so that you can control the software with a 3rd party MIDI device.

Off-line player
You can now play tracks without hardware connected. Set up crates, cue points, make loops etc from the comfort of your lounge chair.

Auto-looping
Create loops of preset length on the fly.

New Relative mode options
New needle dropping in Relative mode and needle drop to cue points options.

AAC support
AAC files are now supported in Scratch LIVE.

New TTM 57SL effects
HP Echo and HP Hold Echo (Bass cut versions of the existing effects), phaser, flanger and a bit crusher.

Relocate lost files
Move stuff around on your drive, without stuffing up your library.

Autobackup
Once a week your Scratch LIVE folder is automatically backed up.

Tabbed setup screen
A redesign of the setup screen with options under separate tabs.


New features in detail:


MIDI
MIDI is set up using the MIDI button at the top of the screen. Turning this on puts you in MIDI learn mode. When in MIDI learn mode, hovering over any UI control button, knob, or other parameter will display a pop-up box showing the MIDI assignment for that control. Clicking on the UI control will display a pop-up box showing MIDI assignment options. Touching a MIDI control will assign the midi control to the UI control.

Off-Line player
The off line player allows you to do more preparation without any hardware connected.

The keyboard shortcuts are the same as for the left deck - remember you can click on the ? button for a full list of shortcuts.

AAC support
AAC files are now supported exactly like MP3, AIFF and WAV files.

New Relative mode options
There are two new options in the vinyl control tab on the setup screen which affect relative mode:

- drop to absolute position:
Means that you can needle drop to the absolute position in relative mode. When the needle is lifted off the record for more that 0.5 seconds and moved to a different groove, The playhead will jump to the absolute position. This means you can now skip around the track with the needle but still use cues and loops.

- drop to cue points
Means that you can needle drop to cue points in relative mode. Repositioning the needle to within any of the first 5 minutes on the control vinyl will jump to those corresponding cue points. In other words, moving the needle to within the first minute will perform a needle drop to the first cue point. Moving it to within the second minute will needle drop to the second cue point and so on. If no cue points exist for a track, the first minute will also restart the track.

- restart track on vinyl lead-in
Bringing the needle to the lead in before the first minute will restart the track. This option is always on. Note that if drop to absolute position is on, the vinyl offset setting is considered to be the start of the track.

Autolooping
5 auto-loop buttons are available on screen at any one time. They range from 1/8 to 32 bars. The user can select the autoloop range with the < and > buttons.

Pressing auto-loop for n bars will create a loop start point from the nearest beat to the playhead (within reason), and set a loop endpoint n bars in the future. Pressing auto-loop 1 while auto-loop 1 is active will deactivate the loop. Pressing a different auto-loop button while looping is active will extend the endpoint of the current loop to the appropriate new auto-loop length.

As the auto-loop buttons require the track bpm to be set to work, if no track bpm is set, the auto-loop buttons are greyed out.

You can also save an auto-loop to the next available slot. When using an auto-loop, a save button is visible where the lock loop button normally is.

New TTM 57SL effects
The new effects come with the new v3 firmware. To update your mixer to get the new effects, with your TTM 57SL connected, go to the hardware tab on the setup screen, and click update.

The v3 firmware should be fully compatible with 1.7.4 (The new effects just aren't selectable in 1.7.4).

What's new in v3:

- A new Phaser effect.
- A new Flanger effect.
- The Desecrator effect (bit crusher and downsampler).
- HP Echo
- HP Hold Echo

Phaser:
* Is a pre-fader effect
* P1 Controls the design frequency
* P1 second function taps the bpm as per the filter effects
* P2 Controls the feedback
* P2 second function controls the phaser depth

Flanger:
* Is a pre-fader effect
* P1 controls the base delay. This is in ms.
* P1 second function taps the bpm. The bpm affects the LFO sweep rate
* P2 controls feedback which provides fullness to the flanger effect
* P2 second function controls the depth which represents the peak delay change.

Desecrator:
* Is a pre-fader effect
* P1 controls the drive.
* P2 controls the down sampler.
* P2 second function controls the bit depth

HP Echo:
* The standard Echo, with a high pass filter added to remove the bass

HP Hold Echo:
* The standard Hold Echo, with a high pass filter added to remove the bass

LFO syncing - A single tap of the bpm button resyncs the LFO.

Relocate lost files
There is a new button in the library tab of the setup screen, called "relocate lost files".
If you drag a folder onto this button, it will go through that folder (and all the folders within that folder) looking for files that match with tracks Scratch LIVE has marked as missing. This means you can move stuff all over your harddrive, and then drag your music folder(s) onto this button and all the missing files will be automatically fixed.

Auto-Backup
For every drive containing the ScratchLIVE folder, Auto-Backup will backup this folder every week, on ScratchLIVE startup.
The ScratchLIVE folder is backed up to a folder called ScratchLIVEBackup, found in the same place as the ScratchLIVE folder.
Auto-Backup will only keep ONE backup at a time, i.e. it will always back up to the same folder.


Miscellaneous changes:

- Fixed when stopping recording, not revealing the recording in the recorded crate

- Added support for the deck level meters when recording channels A or B with the TTM 57SL


Known issues / things we are still working on:

- Improving the Offline-Player latency on Windows platforms

- Whitelabel playback in the Offline Player is currently disabled. This will be enabled shortly.

- Improving the snapping to beats when using looping and auto-looping

- The new needle dropping modes are currently disabled for CD Players.


Running more than one version of Scratch LIVE:
Installing this version will by default overwrite any previous version you had installed, however it is easy to have more than one version of Scratch LIVE installed if you wish.

If you have an important gig coming up, you might like to stick with the version you know until you are comfortable with 1.8.0.
Here's how to do it:

PC Users - before installing, find the ScratchLIVE executable (by default it is in C:\Program files\Serato\ScratchLIVE, and rename it - for example call it ScratchLIVE1.7.4.exe. When you install the new version, the old executable will not be deleted, and you can choose which you want to run by going into that folder and double clicking on the executable. You can still do this if you have already installed the 1.8.0 beta - just rename the executable to ScratchLIVE1.8.0.exe, and then reinstall the version you were previously running.

Mac users - before installing, rename the existing application file as above (like "Scratch LIVE 1.7.4") - you have to be admin to rename it. (If you aren't admin, you can copy it to another location, and then rename it.)

Backing up your data:
Before you make any changes to your Scratch LIVE setup, including installing a new version, as a general rule we highly recommend that you backup your data including your music. Especially with a BETA VERSION. The easiest way to backup your data is to simply copy your Scratch LIVE folder to another location on the drive.
- For the drive that contains "My documents", just copy the ScratchLIVE folder which is in My Docmuments\My music\ to another location onto this drive.
- To back up database and crates of an external drive, copy the hidden .ScratchLIVE folder (which is in the root of the drive) to another location on this drive
 

Doran

TRIBE Member
midi support is nice - want to try my padkontrol in a club, but don't think the beta is quite ready for live use

nice they've officially added autolooping (but you could get that with the djam easter egg in previous versions)

like the single track player & cue point setting ability when the hardware interface isn't connected - comes in handy
 

gl*tch

TRIBE Member
Auto LOOP!!!

Woot!

anyone tried the beta ver. yet? I just upgraded to the latest in the 1.7 series.
 
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dj_soo

TRIBE Member
gl*tch said:
Auto LOOP!!!

Woot!

anyone tried the beta ver. yet? I just upgraded to the latest in the 1.7 series.
note that you will have to re-analyze your files to use some of the features like auto-gain
 

dj_soo

TRIBE Member
btw, i like living on the edge myself and I've actually played out with it at a few of my recent smaller lounge gigs and i've had no major problems yet (played for about 4 hours each time).

The biggest issue I see is that the column width seems to reset with every bootup of the program (very annoying), the sorting switches back to Title with every boot, and that when the clock goes from 12am to 1am, it actually switches to 11pm.
 

Doran

TRIBE Member
after last night i'd feel pretty confident in using 1.8 out at a gig.. i didn't bother with midi or any of the new features - just played as i would normally as if it was vinyl and didn't have any issues over the course of the entire night.

time to start poking the new features with a stick i guess
 
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Bull Go Ki

TRIBE Member
serato on vista

Hey guys,

Im finally going to get serato - quick question:

- I heard there are issues running it off vista - has anyone experienced any issues running serato off vista?
 

khemistry

TRIBE Member
gl*tch said:
so far so good. No issues to report as of yet
Here's the issue that I have with the Beta:

When I was playing a track and for some reason the track that I was playing suddenly change into a different track.

I had a hard time shutting it down took me a while in fact I have to manually turn off my PC.
 

Bull Go Ki

TRIBE Member
question guys:

I plan on purchasing serato - sealed in the box BUT it seems as though it may be comming from questionable circumstances.

my question is: if i purchase this "new" serato - will i have any issues with updates online - do i need to input a serial number etc etc....
 

Doran

TRIBE Member
you can download the software from their website.. it's free.. the hardware is the expensive part
 

dj_soo

TRIBE Member
khemistry said:
Here's the issue that I have with the Beta:

When I was playing a track and for some reason the track that I was playing suddenly change into a different track.

I had a hard time shutting it down took me a while in fact I have to manually turn off my PC.
you should post any issues or bugs on the beta forum.

incidentally, 1.8 is at Release Candidate 1 now...
 
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RumRogerz

TRIBE Member
so wait...
i dont even need turntables to run this program anymore?
i can just get a midi controller and all is well?


man.
 

possibledj

TRIBE Promoter
you never needed turntables. one of my needles went belly up a couple weeks ago so I started dicking around with the internal mode. it's awesome. you can control everything with the keyboard of your laptop. I'll be switching over to my midi controller as soon as I update though. I hope they eventually throw some effects in there that you can trigger with a midi controller instead of a ttm57
 

Bull Go Ki

TRIBE Member
Doran said:
you can download the software from their website.. it's free.. the hardware is the expensive part

the person im purchasing it off of wont come to meet me - he wants to meet up at the subway station...is there any way to confirm if the box works by using internal mode??
 

Doran

TRIBE Member
bring a laptop if you can - have serato/drivers installed, and connect the hardware - you'll be able to use internal mode okay.. doesn't really cover your rca's or any of the signal processing though - will just let you know if the box powers up mostly. you'd have to test your line/phono with turntables, timecode records, etc.. to really be 100% sure.

if you have a portable cd player you could download the .iso of the cd timecode, burn it and use a splitter to get rca output on the cd player to test if the box reads the line ins.. but that's probably the best you'd be able to do - don't know if you'd be able to check the phono inputs with the cd player line as well, it'd be stupid to try connected to a system, but if you're not listening it probably would read the timecode cd fine.
 

possibledj

TRIBE Promoter
Bull Go Ki said:
the person im purchasing it off of wont come to meet me - he wants to meet up at the subway station...is there any way to confirm if the box works by using internal mode??
there's probably a reason for this...
 
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unique2100

TRIBE Promoter
Bull Go Ki said:
Hey guys,

Im finally going to get serato - quick question:

- I heard there are issues running it off vista - has anyone experienced any issues running serato off vista?
Yes, big problem the blue screen of death. Serato crashes your comp everytime you exit the program.

Solution:
Uninstall it and re-install doing this...
Right click on the install file and choose to run it in compatability mode. Run in windows xp sp2 mode. Install. On your desktop icon before you enter the program, right click and put it in the same compatability mode. & then run normally.
 
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