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quantum of suck

NemIsis

TRIBE Member
You also say that when I argue with you about Star Trek. ;)

Although, I agree. The Dalton movies were le suck.
 

Krzysiu

TRIBE Member
come talk to me after Quantum so I can bring up more points!

ps. this one relied even less on gadgetry but when they did show tech, it was so unbelievable... WTF is with those Minority Report interfaces?!?!
 

wayne kenoff

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AshG said:
u do realize the reasons bond is the way he is now, don't u?
that would be the reason why

of course I realize that's the reason, hence my comment about prequels. I just would prefer not to see the early days of Bond, when he's a sensitive wuss - they already did On Her Majesty's Secret Service to explain his heartbreak and womanizing back in the day and guess what: once was more than enough. Just give me smart-alecky, cocky, international playboy with a license to kill bond.

another huge beef I had with the franchise was in Die Another Day, he spent 9 months or so in a North Korean jail getting tortured. The James Bond I came to know and love would never spend 9 months in jail (not getting laid for nine months, wtf!? this isn't sadhiv we're talking about, it's James fucking Bond!)

it sounds like I'm getting more pissed off than I actually am, I still love James Bond but I think the franchise could be doing a better job. But Daniel Craig was a good pick and I have great hope for the next few films. The scripts are getting better than the Brosnan days when it was seriously dumbed-down for American audiences. some of the dry wit is back thank God.
 
Krzysiu said:
With the except of Empire Strikes Back and Godfather II, the middle flick is never the best film and I knew from your reviews that this is a film that failed to deliver the moon like Casino Royale promised.

Aliens ;)

Good analysis. I got the Goldfinger reference right away with Fields' demise, and the story plot did strike me to be a distant cousin of Dr. No. I didn't catch some of the other references, but it's nice to see another Bond fan keeping an eye out for the other nods the film gave.

I really think this film could have been a lot better if it weren't for the timing of the writer's strike. And while a lot of people didn't care for Green as a villain, I kind of like seeing a guy who reminds me of Roman Polanski being a mastermind behind the situation. Most didn't get the severity of the key machinations of the plot through the nuances they were making (being able to destabilize a government through acquiring water and infrastructure rights), I think they were making their point with Bond's critique to Felix about the nature of the CIA choice of allies served the film better than some expository dialogue about how water is going to become one of the most valued resources on the planet.

As for the Minority Report like interfaces, we've got some at where I'm working right now. Not quite as advanced, but they're just about in every department in our building.
 

KiFe

TRIBE Member
el presidente Highsteppa said:
If you guys were disappointed in this, seek out a film called Taken with Liam Neeson. It's an action film that'll please the Casino Royale fans, as well as the people that feel that 24 has gone soft. It's not James Bond, but it's a pretty good substitute.


TAKEN WAS AWESOME!

I just watched this the other day and thoroughly enjoyed it! As a ludlum/bourne fan, it's always a treat to watch CIA-style combat/espionage tactics and this one certainly doesn't dissapoint.

Liam's ninja training from batman seems to have made for a solid foundation which he carries into this movie.


AWESOME!
 
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Lil'Timmy

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What a great action film! Cars, and guns, and running and hot women! Fast paced, fun times.

But...
This is a shitty Bond film! No plot, no....BOND. It is not a good Bond film. If you;ve been religiously watching bond films since you were 12 years old like yours truly, you'd understand.

So. Great action film, shitty Bond film
 
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Lil'Timmy

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It's a shitty bond film Mike, plain and simple. Shitty. No plot, barely any sauve James bond! Just "bang bang" Bond, runnin around like Jason Bourne
 

Adam Duke

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I'm with Mike on this.

Anyone who says there was no plot, simply wasn't paying attention. Maybe it was too heady for the majority..



And I've been watching Bond films since I was 6.
 

skin deep

TRIBE Member
Adam Duke said:
I'm with Mike on this.

Anyone who says there was no plot, simply wasn't paying attention. Maybe it was too heady for the majority..



And I've been watching Bond films since I was 6.

Agreed.

I think people are confusing 'lack of plot', with the fact that this movie was meant to show that the MI6 was in deep shit because they honestly had no idea what they were dealing with. Bond was always chasing fuckers down and kicking ass because as soon as he got any tiny piece of information he had to act on it immediately, not sit around, mull it over, explain to the audience what he had to do, phone his mother to explain it to her and then screw some chicks in between.

I mean they said right at the beginning of the movie 'you have no idea who we are, do you?' and they still barely have any idea. The audience wasn't given perfect knowledge, because Bond/MI6 didn't have it either.
 
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sianspherica

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el presidente Highsteppa said:
If you guys were disappointed in this, seek out a film called Taken with Liam Neeson. It's an action film that'll please the Casino Royale fans, as well as the people that feel that 24 has gone soft. It's not James Bond, but it's a pretty good substitute.

props for this recommendation

just finished watching Taken and it was pretty fucking entertaining and exciting.

made Bond seem pretty bland in comparison.
 

sheik rock

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sianspherica said:
props for this recommendation

just finished watching Taken and it was pretty fucking entertaining and exciting.

made Bond seem pretty bland in comparison.

It was alright. Pretty much just a by the numbers revenge flick.
 

acheron

TRIBE Member
I enjoyed QoS... And I liked Timothy Dalton too.

/and I've been watching Bond films since I was a little boy, too.
 

basketballjones

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mutslaster said:
i have to agree also with will.
plot was completely weak, there was pretty much no concept of who or what bond was even chasing the whole time.
maybe you should stick to watching everyone loves raymond, that is much easier to follow

he was chasing leads, pure and simple
he and all the intelligence agencies had no idea what quantum is or if it even existed, if you failed to notice that, then maybe everyone hates raymond is beyond you and you should stick to paint by numbers

loved this movie
confusing action sequences? i take it the ppl complaining about this must have had their head explode during the car chase scene in Ronin
 
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basketballjones

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skin deep said:
Agreed.

I think people are confusing 'lack of plot', with the fact that this movie was meant to show that the MI6 was in deep shit because they honestly had no idea what they were dealing with. Bond was always chasing fuckers down and kicking ass because as soon as he got any tiny piece of information he had to act on it immediately, not sit around, mull it over, explain to the audience what he had to do, phone his mother to explain it to her and then screw some chicks in between.

I mean they said right at the beginning of the movie 'you have no idea who we are, do you?' and they still barely have any idea. The audience wasn't given perfect knowledge, because Bond/MI6 didn't have it either.
you said it much better then i could
 

ian

TRIBE Member
Fantasic movie. Great plot (watch it again if you don't think so). Almost as good as Casino Raoyale. Not far off.
 

Lurker

TRIBE Member
I watched the two pretty much back to back over the holidays and they were both great.

The plot in both movies kept you guessing the whole time.

Daniel Craig makes a great Bond. I also enjoyed how the story wasn't as focused on Q-Branch and their gadgets.

Great chases, good fights. Classic Bond.
 

alexd

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Staff member
I seems the next Bond movie has been put on hold indefinitely... And there is more talk about Sam Worthington being the next Bond... WTF
 
I seems the next Bond movie has been put on hold indefinitely... And there is more talk about Sam Worthington being the next Bond... WTF

MGM is something like $4 billion in debt, and the back catalog (something like 1986 and earlier) is owned by Time Warner. They have to earn that back on their own. It's not helping that Tom Cruise's film Valkyrie didn't do that well in theaters and their production schedule has pretty much halted.

As for the Sam Worthington talk - Daniel Craig's contract for playing the role of James Bond I think is up by 2011 (it was for something like 3 movies or 2011), so they're going to have to start looking for replacements in case he doesn't re-sign or even asks for too much when they offer its renewal. Personally, I think Worthington is a horrible choice - he wasn't that good in Avatar nor in Terminator Salvation, even though he's getting a lot of name recognition. He strikes me as an Aussie Keanu Reeves - all screen presence, not much in acting ability yet.
 
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