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Bass-Invader
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some kickass coreographed action scenes in this movie. the plot wasn't as big and insane as your typical bond movie, but i heard its because it was taken from an old ian fleming short story or something.
Klubmasta Will
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this movie is unnecessary and unimpressive.
especially after the smart, awesomely-directed, powerhouse that was CASINO ROYALE, this movie is a disappointment in almost every way.
the plot is crap, shit is confused, the action-directing is terrible and uninspired (too many close-up shots that it's hard to ever tell what's happening, too many silly scenes involving bad guys with machine guns that can't seem to hit something that's right in front of them, et al.), the chicks are only marginally hot, the villain is forgettable ....... basically, all the stuff that made CASINO ROYALE awesome is missing from this movie.
daniel craig is still good as james bond, but he doesn't have much to work with here. if this had been his first bond movie, he would not be topping many "best bond" lists.
getting back to the poor action/fight scenes, a lot of it felt like the director was trying to emulate the style of much better flicks like THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM, but just doing it all wrong.
it had some alright moments, but overall this movie is a big disappointment.
6/10
especially after the smart, awesomely-directed, powerhouse that was CASINO ROYALE, this movie is a disappointment in almost every way.
the plot is crap, shit is confused, the action-directing is terrible and uninspired (too many close-up shots that it's hard to ever tell what's happening, too many silly scenes involving bad guys with machine guns that can't seem to hit something that's right in front of them, et al.), the chicks are only marginally hot, the villain is forgettable ....... basically, all the stuff that made CASINO ROYALE awesome is missing from this movie.
daniel craig is still good as james bond, but he doesn't have much to work with here. if this had been his first bond movie, he would not be topping many "best bond" lists.
getting back to the poor action/fight scenes, a lot of it felt like the director was trying to emulate the style of much better flicks like THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM, but just doing it all wrong.
it had some alright moments, but overall this movie is a big disappointment.
6/10
Makes me consider downloading the camcorder version and saving a few bucks until it comes out on DVD. lol
KickIT
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Klubmasta Will said:
Saw this tonight and must say I agree 100% with your assessment. Whoever directed this movie did a horrible job. That chase scene in Italy had me on the verge of nausea and not in a good way. Some of those dual action scenes were just plain stupid and poorly executed as well.
Please get a new director for the next Bond.
praktik
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Disappointing to hear. Especially about the action scenes, if they were slick they could have saved the movie I guess - but I even thought the last Bourne movie, while still effective in the action scenes, was even a bit too frenetic at times.
If this one's worse in that respect, I'll be unimpressed and a little disoriented for sure.
Remember that chase through the construction yard to open Casino Royale? Exhibit A for an AMAZING action sequence that doesn't feel like a music video edited by a 19 year old meth head.
If this one's worse in that respect, I'll be unimpressed and a little disoriented for sure.
Remember that chase through the construction yard to open Casino Royale? Exhibit A for an AMAZING action sequence that doesn't feel like a music video edited by a 19 year old meth head.
I've been a Bond Fan since I popped into this world....through thick and thin...
Yes, everyone can agree that Casino Royale was amazing and reinvigorated the flailing franchise. Great!
This is not Casino Royale, but then, IT CAN'T BE.
This is probably the most well-rounded Bond to date that I can think of - I TRULY DISAGREE with previous naysayers. It was tense, had some great action sequences, solid story, cool locations (as always), good lines where everyone in the theatre got into it, more interest in the character of Bond (not just super actionhero Bond), and nice cinematography work. It probably won't go off as having the "best" action sequence, or the "best" love interest, but as I said, it IS a very pleasantly well-rounded film.
The only true complaint I have is about the title track...WEAK. Thinnest un-Bondish song ever. Crappy match up for Jack Black (whose sound is raw yes, cool, but THIN(!) already and not worthy of the large scope of any Bond title track), coupled with Alicia Keys whose voice is always subdued under aformentioned THIN track. And maybe the title 'Quantum of Solace' is a little unmemorable also.
Go see it. It IS worth your dollar and time in a big theatre (not some crappy digitally traded version on your 26" monitor screen...it's a BOND film for christ-sakes!)
Yes, everyone can agree that Casino Royale was amazing and reinvigorated the flailing franchise. Great!
This is not Casino Royale, but then, IT CAN'T BE.
This is probably the most well-rounded Bond to date that I can think of - I TRULY DISAGREE with previous naysayers. It was tense, had some great action sequences, solid story, cool locations (as always), good lines where everyone in the theatre got into it, more interest in the character of Bond (not just super actionhero Bond), and nice cinematography work. It probably won't go off as having the "best" action sequence, or the "best" love interest, but as I said, it IS a very pleasantly well-rounded film.
The only true complaint I have is about the title track...WEAK. Thinnest un-Bondish song ever. Crappy match up for Jack Black (whose sound is raw yes, cool, but THIN(!) already and not worthy of the large scope of any Bond title track), coupled with Alicia Keys whose voice is always subdued under aformentioned THIN track. And maybe the title 'Quantum of Solace' is a little unmemorable also.
Go see it. It IS worth your dollar and time in a big theatre (not some crappy digitally traded version on your 26" monitor screen...it's a BOND film for christ-sakes!)
mutslaster
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i have to agree also with will.
plot was completely weak, there was pretty much no concept of who or what bond was even chasing the whole time, nobody cared about the villain or the bond chick's story which tends to take over the whole plot anyways, and the fight scenes were good but not great (very similarly disappointing to the second bourne flick - too close-up, too fast, all the choreography wasted).
in its defense, there were definitely a few good action sequences and craig is still great as bond, but overall, really disappointing, especially after casino royale.
plot was completely weak, there was pretty much no concept of who or what bond was even chasing the whole time, nobody cared about the villain or the bond chick's story which tends to take over the whole plot anyways, and the fight scenes were good but not great (very similarly disappointing to the second bourne flick - too close-up, too fast, all the choreography wasted).
in its defense, there were definitely a few good action sequences and craig is still great as bond, but overall, really disappointing, especially after casino royale.
el presidente Highsteppa
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If you guys were disappointed in this, seek out a film called Taken with Liam Neeson. It's an action film that'll please the Casino Royale fans, as well as the people that feel that 24 has gone soft. It's not James Bond, but it's a pretty good substitute.
Bernnie Federko
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enjoyed it!
mutslaster said:
i completely agree. i really didn't even know what was going on for the first half hour of the movie - the plot was just non-existent.
craig is still an amazing bond, but the movie was just not what i was hoping for in a bond film.
also: there really should have been a better hair and makeup person. both of the "bond girls" (fields and camille) had terrible hairstyles. they would have been way hotter if some more focus was put on their looks.
el presidente Highsteppa
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I enjoyed it. Not as much as Casino Royale, but I got the impression that this film is more of a set up for an overarching plot - more specifically the set up of SPECTRE (which has been re-imagined as Quantum) and their activities around the globe. Action sequences were unfortunately hyper edited to a point where it's difficult to get an understanding of what is going on in the way of action, rather than allowing for long range shots and longer, unbroken takes allowing us to see the action unfold.
For me, this is The Two Towers of a Bond film. I get the impression that by the next film, we'll be looking a bit differently at the point of this film - setting up the bigger picture of what MI6 and Bond are up against. If we're lucky, maybe we'll get a new Stavro Von Blofeld (why not, as we're getting James Bond retconned back to the start of his career?)
For me, this is The Two Towers of a Bond film. I get the impression that by the next film, we'll be looking a bit differently at the point of this film - setting up the bigger picture of what MI6 and Bond are up against. If we're lucky, maybe we'll get a new Stavro Von Blofeld (why not, as we're getting James Bond retconned back to the start of his career?)
Bass-Invader
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i don't think the plot was horrible. it was just not as ambitious as Bond plots usually are. Whereas we usually have Russians, nuclear devices, lasers, hat throwing, steel jaws, and Grace Jones, in this one everything seems a bit more mundane. The action scenes were cool and fun to watch, i especially liked the Opera. They were a bit GI joe'd sure, but if anyone is complaining that enemy bullets are missing James fucking Bond too easily then I think they forgot about the rest of the series.
synchronizator
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This movie was a total atrocious waste of time and money. The song was unbearable, the acting was less than stellar, and a complete and utter disgrace to the Bond name.
Whoever thought of spending more money on the action sequences than on the actual 'making sense' of the movie are total retards. RETARDS.
Don't waste your time. I thought I was going to get up and leave, and I have never in my life walked out of a movie, no matter how bad it was.
The End.
(PS, what the fuck was up with red head chick's hair at the so-called 'party' in bolivia? it looked like the hairstylist came in with a hangover or still high from last night's coke binge.)
Whoever thought of spending more money on the action sequences than on the actual 'making sense' of the movie are total retards. RETARDS.
Don't waste your time. I thought I was going to get up and leave, and I have never in my life walked out of a movie, no matter how bad it was.
The End.
(PS, what the fuck was up with red head chick's hair at the so-called 'party' in bolivia? it looked like the hairstylist came in with a hangover or still high from last night's coke binge.)
synchronizator
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el presidente Highsteppa said:
Dear Execs in Hollywood:
Don't make another Bond film until you watch every single old school Bond film and learn how to appreciate the fact that the original Bond was about style and class, CLASS people. If you plan on making this film, have a chit chat with some people with actual insight on how a Bond film is supposed to be.
STYLE and CLASS. Not how long it takes you to kill a man with a knife in four places, or how many times you can jump from window sill to window sill whilst chasing after a villain who looks like the geek in a basement somewhere playing mad DUNGEONS and DRAGONS.
UGH. Now I'm actually done.
great movie, and absolutely loved the new song. best thing i've heard, bondwise, ever.
and correct me if i'm wrong, but this would be the first time ever, a bond movie was used as a sequel with plot devices carrying forward to the next movie to such a point that the 'sequel' would be almost unintelligible had you not seen the preceeding flick?
the actual villain in this movie sucked. i'll say that for sure. it could have been super interesting, but they just more or less wasted the whole 'moles everywhere' thing they had established at the get-go.
and what can bond do anyway, except act completely pissed off, withdrawn, and in denial? its a narrow range of acting but completley within the character, and i felt craig did what he could to demonstrate the arching changes in bond's dealing with vesper, and then suddenly that blow to mathis.
hell i might go see this again in the theatre. finally a bond movie that holds true to at least character development. well done!
and correct me if i'm wrong, but this would be the first time ever, a bond movie was used as a sequel with plot devices carrying forward to the next movie to such a point that the 'sequel' would be almost unintelligible had you not seen the preceeding flick?
the actual villain in this movie sucked. i'll say that for sure. it could have been super interesting, but they just more or less wasted the whole 'moles everywhere' thing they had established at the get-go.
and what can bond do anyway, except act completely pissed off, withdrawn, and in denial? its a narrow range of acting but completley within the character, and i felt craig did what he could to demonstrate the arching changes in bond's dealing with vesper, and then suddenly that blow to mathis.
hell i might go see this again in the theatre. finally a bond movie that holds true to at least character development. well done!