Re: Re: Progressive techno
Originally posted by The Truth
Don't forget the fact that "techno" has always had an experimental edge while "progressive" has always had a "pop" feel. The sounds created by techno are supposed to be different and completely new, while progressive sound are often familiar and thus more popular with people afraid to venture into unknown territories.
"Pop" feel? Bullshit.
You obviously know squat about progressive. Progressive ventures into different genres and is nothing like 'Pop'.
Most progressive may sound familiar as certain elements are reused over and over again thus making them sound the same. So does every other genre. Pffft.
What's so "progressive" about a track with vocals-its usually cheesy to me. I don't see why tracks like "Hide U" and "Rapture" are being championed by many prog dj, because those tracks seem like the usual pop/dance/top 40 songs to me.
It is inevitable that some tracks become anthems and these two tracks happened to be just two of them. So what?
Move on.
There are still some people I know who thinks that the "progressive" genre means that the sound is constantly evolving. That is such a misnomer. The Progressive term came from journalist Dom Phillips who described a type of house emerging in the UK which was a cross between trancey techno and house.
That is why people should not always believe what they read.
Suddenly, as the style became more popular, tons of clone tracks were produced and a formula was created. There is usually little real proression when most tracks have a formula. This is why the phrase "Bog Standard Prog Fodder"is being used.
Progressive existed since the early ninties. I wouldn't really say, it suddenly became popular. Rather, it has gained more listeners during these years. Again, so does any genre.
Also, it is how you use the tracks in your set inregardless whether it has the standard formula or not. Did Techno not teach u anything?
BSPF is just another bastardised term. Only fools use them.
Furthermore, I've noticed something in the prog scene...most of the big names have been hyped up by UK mags, clubs, comps and radio without much production credibilty. Why are Sasha, Digweed, Seaman, JVM and Fortier so massive without actually doing much besides "spinning records". Souldn't they earn they huge status by actually producing some music once in a while.
Since when did Sasha, Digweed, Seaman, JVM not produced any tracks? Obviously, you are clueless. Some research will keep u busy for a while.
I will always stand behind a techno artist like Richie Hawtin because he's produced about 7 albums which all sound completely different, plus he owns two respected labels Plus 8 and Minus, he has remixed names such as Depeche Mode and New Order. He often plays on 3 decks with a 909 drum machine-lets see a prog dj do that! To top it off, he is now using the Final Scatch system which the manufacturers asked him to test out first among all the thousands of djs around the world.
I always hold highly for what Richie Hawtin has done for the scene. No doubt about that. But what has this gotta do with this topic about using final scratch and all......??
There are prog djs who utilizes 3 decks, samplers, effects, etc.
Namely Phil K, Steve Lawler, etc....
C'mon prog drones and Sasha wannabes-let see you beat that!!
I have seen lots of Jeff Mills, Dave Clarke wannabes. U one of them? hehe
Remember: You can call music whatever the eff you want, at the end of the day, it is just music. Argue all you want and you still will not change anyone's preference towards certain music.
It is only one's open mindedness to embrace different music that will open up his/her world.
And please, there is no need to call others twat. That really shows what a Techno snob you are.
p/s I enjoy all sorts of music and spin all sorts, including minimal techno.
