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Prime Killed Techno
- Thread starter Winick
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.....and then
I heard you on the wireless back in Fifty Two
Lying awake intent at tuning in on you.
If I was young it didn't stop you coming through.
Oh-a oh
They took the credit for your second symphony.
Rewritten by machine and new technology,
and now I understand the problems you can see.
Oh-a oh
I met your children
Oh-a oh
What did you tell them?
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Pictures came and broke your heart.
Oh-a-a-a oh
And now we meet in an abandoned studio.
We hear the playback and it seems so long ago.
And you remember the jingles used to go.
Oh-a oh
You were the first one.
Oh-a oh
You were the last one.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
In my mind and in my car,
we can't rewind we've gone to far
Oh-a-aho oh,
Oh-a-aho oh
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
In my mind and in my car,
we can't rewind we've gone to far.
Pictures came and broke your heart,
put the blame on VTR.
You are a radio star.
You are a radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
(You are a radio star.)
I heard you on the wireless back in Fifty Two
Lying awake intent at tuning in on you.
If I was young it didn't stop you coming through.
Oh-a oh
They took the credit for your second symphony.
Rewritten by machine and new technology,
and now I understand the problems you can see.
Oh-a oh
I met your children
Oh-a oh
What did you tell them?
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Pictures came and broke your heart.
Oh-a-a-a oh
And now we meet in an abandoned studio.
We hear the playback and it seems so long ago.
And you remember the jingles used to go.
Oh-a oh
You were the first one.
Oh-a oh
You were the last one.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
In my mind and in my car,
we can't rewind we've gone to far
Oh-a-aho oh,
Oh-a-aho oh
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
In my mind and in my car,
we can't rewind we've gone to far.
Pictures came and broke your heart,
put the blame on VTR.
You are a radio star.
You are a radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
(You are a radio star.)
Interchange
TRIBE Promoter
yeah and justin timberlake to - for house -rock your body - i love that song. judge away - i have no shame
Remeber Aaliyah- first you don't suceed? how about Brandi what about us, i think it is called, her newer song?
i hear elements of techno/electro in some of these songs. not to mention how well produced they sound.
guess all i am saying is don't limit yourself to what is out there
Remeber Aaliyah- first you don't suceed? how about Brandi what about us, i think it is called, her newer song?
i hear elements of techno/electro in some of these songs. not to mention how well produced they sound.
guess all i am saying is don't limit yourself to what is out there
techno is dead? someone call the paramedics and revive that mofo.i agree with adam that the prime sound was dominating the scene around 96-99,everyone was buying and playing that stuff including mr.cochrane so everyone has a part to play in some regard to the death you speak of.that sound was new and fresh at the time and caught everyones ears and i can hardly remember a time when i didn't hear that sound or someone playing prime-'style' techno at a party,so who is to blame here?
as for the death?where the fuck is prime now? dead.yet people are producing,playing and buying techno.so in my opinion prime killed itself,not techno.they pigeonholed themselves,releasing too many records that sounded alike and people got hip to it or just stopped doing 3 pills a night and that stuff just didn't have the same effect on them anymore.still alot of stuff that came from that label and that time are still killer tracks and i couldn't imagine a world with just a one dimensional view of what 'techno' is.to me its dubbed out,bleepy,broken,groovy,melodic,synthy,acidy,chugging,drummy,pounding goodness!
i've always believed a real techno dj should pride himself on his diversity.being able to start ot a set with some deep mortitz and bc and by the end of the set be pounding some killabite or code red and leaving the audience wondering 'just how the hell you got there?'.the problem is most technophiles pride themselves on fitting everything into nice,neat little categories so they can have something interesting to talk about at a party because otherwise they are a bunch of boring psuedo-intellects.fuck that,i dont care about what anyone thinks 'techno' or 'who killed it' fuck off,go read a book,take some cooking courses,go run out in the street and get hit by a car so you have something interesting to talk about,cause this rant is getting tired.
no offense adam,ive always supported yours and jeffs work as djs and producers,but i think we need to get back to community instead of nonsensical diatribes about distributors killing techno.we need to start 'really' supporting 'our' talent,start making small nights more succesful and sustaining them for longer than a month,jeez.all we want to do is isolate ourselves,break ourselves up into high-schoolish bullshit cliques-'you go over there' 'we go over here'-bullshit! we have too much talent that is left to rot away in bedrooms,basements and opening slots.i have no problem with the bleepy,minimal rubbing up against the hard,tribal in a night and if you read this and say 'well i have a problem with that' well then im sorry,your the one killing techno.not prime.
as for the death?where the fuck is prime now? dead.yet people are producing,playing and buying techno.so in my opinion prime killed itself,not techno.they pigeonholed themselves,releasing too many records that sounded alike and people got hip to it or just stopped doing 3 pills a night and that stuff just didn't have the same effect on them anymore.still alot of stuff that came from that label and that time are still killer tracks and i couldn't imagine a world with just a one dimensional view of what 'techno' is.to me its dubbed out,bleepy,broken,groovy,melodic,synthy,acidy,chugging,drummy,pounding goodness!
i've always believed a real techno dj should pride himself on his diversity.being able to start ot a set with some deep mortitz and bc and by the end of the set be pounding some killabite or code red and leaving the audience wondering 'just how the hell you got there?'.the problem is most technophiles pride themselves on fitting everything into nice,neat little categories so they can have something interesting to talk about at a party because otherwise they are a bunch of boring psuedo-intellects.fuck that,i dont care about what anyone thinks 'techno' or 'who killed it' fuck off,go read a book,take some cooking courses,go run out in the street and get hit by a car so you have something interesting to talk about,cause this rant is getting tired.
no offense adam,ive always supported yours and jeffs work as djs and producers,but i think we need to get back to community instead of nonsensical diatribes about distributors killing techno.we need to start 'really' supporting 'our' talent,start making small nights more succesful and sustaining them for longer than a month,jeez.all we want to do is isolate ourselves,break ourselves up into high-schoolish bullshit cliques-'you go over there' 'we go over here'-bullshit! we have too much talent that is left to rot away in bedrooms,basements and opening slots.i have no problem with the bleepy,minimal rubbing up against the hard,tribal in a night and if you read this and say 'well i have a problem with that' well then im sorry,your the one killing techno.not prime.
BigBadBaldy
TRIBE Member
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
I don't know how qualified I am to comment on this since I don't buy the records that reference the discussion, but is it the fault of the label, or is it the fault of a lot of DJs in this city just playing the same sound?
Recently I was listening to both an "old" ('97) Novamute compilation and Luke Slater's "Freek Funk", and really reflecting on how a lot of the "song" is missing from the techno I hear now. It seems like there is more focus on producing DJ cookie cutter tracks that are produced by DJs for DJs to spin effectively and I feel it has robbed a bunch of techno of its more musical attributes. I find a lot of techno pointless; it has a great loop but accomplishes nothing as a song. There are a lot of artists who do not fall into that category, but I think there are a lot of people who produce stuff with no mind to expanding or challenging anything in a musical or creative sense.
..and yeah. I don't really have anywhere else to go with that (well I do, but I'm tired and want to put my feet up after a day's (night's) work).
I still believe in techno. I know there are a lot of artists out there doing great work, you just might not always hear it caned at parties. Techno isn't just for the club anymore.
Bra bra bra.
I don't know how qualified I am to comment on this since I don't buy the records that reference the discussion, but is it the fault of the label, or is it the fault of a lot of DJs in this city just playing the same sound?
Recently I was listening to both an "old" ('97) Novamute compilation and Luke Slater's "Freek Funk", and really reflecting on how a lot of the "song" is missing from the techno I hear now. It seems like there is more focus on producing DJ cookie cutter tracks that are produced by DJs for DJs to spin effectively and I feel it has robbed a bunch of techno of its more musical attributes. I find a lot of techno pointless; it has a great loop but accomplishes nothing as a song. There are a lot of artists who do not fall into that category, but I think there are a lot of people who produce stuff with no mind to expanding or challenging anything in a musical or creative sense.
..and yeah. I don't really have anywhere else to go with that (well I do, but I'm tired and want to put my feet up after a day's (night's) work).
I still believe in techno. I know there are a lot of artists out there doing great work, you just might not always hear it caned at parties. Techno isn't just for the club anymore.
Bra bra bra.
BigBadBaldy
TRIBE Member
PS I said "a lot" a lot in that post.
BigBadBaldy
TRIBE Member
PPS I think what's really killing techno is the fact that apparently all of you go to bed before 12am.
well i think what killed techno is having to be at my desk at 9am.
and i blame that squarely on the locals who didn't support me through the years with lots of money, ego stroking and handjobs in the bathroom. wait a sec....
nevermind.... i just realized i have to grow up alittle.
and i blame that squarely on the locals who didn't support me through the years with lots of money, ego stroking and handjobs in the bathroom.
wait a sec.... nevermind.... i just realized i have to grow up alittle.it wasn't just ONE lable... PRIME was a distributor of
many many many lables... and they DID dictate the
sound they wanted from alot of the exclusive labels.
example:
i sent GLOBAL TRAXX a CD with about 6 songs.
none of them had tribal elements, they all had
an extensive break down with electro-y elements,
none of them used compression-as-instrument.
The label head from GT specifically told me that
he'd take them if i made some changes and made
it more 4-to-the-floor (or at least a shorter breakdown)
and made it less "experimental".
i asked how can i make it "less experimental"
and he said to incorporate some tribal sounds.
he then made the comment "that's what PRIME
wants"... and i'm like "isn't this your label???"
So, PRIME had more of a say in the shaping of
techno as we know it than many folks think. I
basically made this same statement a year and
a half ago and got blasted ... And i stand by it
today.
PRIME is gone.
Good riddance.
(and yes, there were several good releases
from PRIME, but the majority was cookie cutter)
and the refusal for feds to legalize meth.
Originally posted by vveerrgg
and i blame that squarely on the locals who didn't support me through the years with lots of money, ego stroking and handjobs in the bathroom.
damn...
if that's all it took... i'd sacrifice my sinister hand for
the cause
(i give better with my left hand, anyway...)Originally posted by vveerrgg
but only a little, right?
Thursday, I'm driving 2 hours to go hear Iz (i know, it's
house), even tho' i have to be at work at 8am the
next day AND go to school straight from work from 2pm
to 7pm... I'm gonna be beat...
every now-and-again, the raver in me MUST come out
and play!
tommysmalls
TRIBE Member
i definitely agree that prime had big problems - its a serious issue when a huge portion of the releases are made using the same formula....primevil records was especially bad in this regard...having said that, i own a few prime records that i really like, but considering the amount of records they distributed, they definitely left something to be desired for their lack of variety.
RE: physix's comments
- right on, I was telling people that for years (tribal intro - breakdown - come back in with the way too loud ride cymbal - stab stab stab - filter high to low - double stab w/ ride cymbals)
Some labels under the Prime umbrella are slowly starting to resurface and the sway is certainly away from the hard tribal feel. I actually liked a Redhead track last week, that's the first time that ever happened.
For those interested in the TRUE techno, that I believe Adam speaks of check out the label Fortek and the artist Literon (who is also featured on Speedy J's "Collabs 200" out on Novamute shortly). Like I said earlier I had enough of this techno back in '98, but Literon's stuff definitely gives me that pump that shit feeling again!
odbx
- right on, I was telling people that for years (tribal intro - breakdown - come back in with the way too loud ride cymbal - stab stab stab - filter high to low - double stab w/ ride cymbals)
Some labels under the Prime umbrella are slowly starting to resurface and the sway is certainly away from the hard tribal feel. I actually liked a Redhead track last week, that's the first time that ever happened.
For those interested in the TRUE techno, that I believe Adam speaks of check out the label Fortek and the artist Literon (who is also featured on Speedy J's "Collabs 200" out on Novamute shortly). Like I said earlier I had enough of this techno back in '98, but Literon's stuff definitely gives me that pump that shit feeling again!
odbx
great ep.. Ive been having lots of fun with it lately.
I dont wanna get to into this-
all Im gonna say is prime ruined techno a bit for me.. hearing Adam Beyers remix of "Manipulated" 3 times in one night at a party (and everyweekend) drove me nuts.
I like a lot of stuff off prime. Primevil had some cool releases (the mole & remixes!) but it sorta but me off that hard tribal sound.. and i just couldnt groove to it anymore..
I was used to picking up a primate once every now and then- and I havent picked on up in over a year I think...