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ADT

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random thoughts on Pink Floyd.....

>The Wall... their best album? or most overrated one?.... the concept and the movie... combined with the tremendeously creative bent... but musically? i think there are alot of filler tracks that are not the greatest for listening... and are better presented in the context of the film..

>Animals.. their most underrated album?.... intensely darks with a wicked theme (stab stab @ corperate culture)... also consistent from beginning to end... no down tracks

>One of these days... wicked track, incredibly innovative... a total forerunner to soooo much that would happen later in industrial and electronica even.. hard trance remix anyone<<<<<:eek:

>Dark Side of the Moon... longest charting album of all time... why? that loop with the cash registers at the beginning of money... how many electronica producers ever do shit THAT creative anymore?... what does that say about electronica... in the rise of its main stream popularity... and due obsession with composition, structure, and style... has the electronica scene lost some of its creative, spontaneous energy?... true creativity died with industrial... but lives on in Aphex Twin
 
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air-bag

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>the final cut - most underrated pf album. check out the lyrics

>there is a house remix of Another Brick In The Wall going around now
 
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KiX

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Meddle is by FAR their most underrated album. One Of These Days, San Tropez, Fearless, AND Echoes?? This was definitely a turning point for them musically, not to mention the first album without Syd. It's a really short album, but it's so rich with musical brilliance you dont' need the extra 20 or so minutes most albums have.

As for the Wall, it most certainly isn't overrated in the least. So many songs on their own are powerful enough to stand alone as individual masterpieces, but combine each of those songs with the greater picture and what you have is incredible. The point of the wall is to tell a story. The beauty of the music is in the story. As much as there are "filler" songs that are only fully appreciated on screen, you can't take them out. Infact, they left out far too many songs like that from the movie that i think would have been great on the album.

DSOTM is overrated forSURE. Not that it isn't incredible, but for it to be their biggest seller kinda baffles me.

Hahaha were you watching the concert on MuchMore too?

=tina=
 
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atomic

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Originally posted by ADT
random thoughts on Pink Floyd.....

>The Wall... their best album? or most overrated one?.... the concept and the movie... combined with the tremendeously creative bent... but musically? i think there are alot of filler tracks that are not the greatest for listening... and are better presented in the context of the film..
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definitely not overrated. it's sheer brilliance. musically, I can agree with your point if you hear the album first - you won't get a full understanding of the concepts. after watching the film and then going to the music, you can enjoy it more due to the new connections.

that's what I also got out of bjork's selmasongs. I thought the music was great at first, then I watched dancer. going back to the cd then brought a whole new and enjoyable experience.

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BigBadBaldy

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Originally posted by KiX
Meddle is by FAR their most underrated album.
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I would go so far as to say it's their best album, but that's just a subjective opinion. Definitely MY favourite Floyd album. There are a surprising number of people who've never even HEARD of "Meddle". My estimation of the fair yet tough KiX grows with every passing day.

I don't think it was their first without Syd, though. He only appeared on "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" and "Saucerful of Secrets", unless I'm very mistaken. The soundtrack for "More", "Ummagumma", soundtrack for "Zabriskie Point"and "Atom Heart Mother" were all released in the time between Barret's leaving the band and the release of "Meddle" in 1971.

There is NOT another Pink Floyd album like "Meddle". The light almost jazz/country inspired guitar work, the meandering ambient bliss of "Echoes", and my favourite song of ALL TIME of any genre by any artist, the life enhancing, goosebump giving "Fearless".

BBB.

On the other counts.. "The Wall" is NOT overrated, it is a brilliant piece of work when you actually listen to it again, in completion, and "Animals" is definitely one of their most underrated albums, but a lot of their stuff is underrated, like "Meddle" and "Obscured By Clouds".

Having 20th row floors for their show at the Ex in 1988 was probably the best show I've ever seen.
 
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KiX

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*highfives BBB*

You're right though... I thought Meddle was the first time Syd wasn't with them, because Relics, which came out just before had him in it. I didn't realize that he left and came back and what not. Sneh!

But yes, I have to agree. Fearless is one of the most incredible songs EVER, by ANYONE. The lyrics alone are incredible, but the song as a whole is just fantastic.

=tina=
 
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Cheeka

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fav album - the Wall
(overrated??? no way - wicked album(s))

fav tune - Wish you were here - no question!!

Comfortably Numb is a wicked tune too but no WYWH!!

"if you don't eat your meat you can't have any pudding... HOW?? can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat... :p"
 
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ADT

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I think your all missing the point...

If Meddle is Pink Floyds best album... (arguably... Echos and San Tropez are two of my favorites for sure )

but, Dark Side and The Wall are the two most popular (and renowned)...

Then is not The Wall or Dark Side overrated?

I was speaking, comparatively.. that is vs other Floyd albums.. not music in general... IMO all Floyd is underrated period...

I just dont know many hardcore floyd fans who think The Wall was thier best work... most pick Meddle or Dark Side IMO

IMO... Dark Side was their best album... the most creative and groundbreaking... if not as musical as Meddle (or catchy like san tropez)... but it holds the place as the first trully awesome concept album of it kind.... IMO...

and the vocaly stylings are leagues ahead of anything else floyd did...
 
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Lil'Timmy

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Best Band ever...

First off. "One of these days"...best instrumental track of all time.
Second. Syd Barrett is a genius, Astronomy Domine = trippy.

Roger Waters should get over it.
The Division Bell was a mistake (cept for 1-2 songs)
The Wall is perhaps of the most unique peices of music ever released
DSOM is overrated. But kicks so much ass
The Final Cut is a mistake
Shine on you crazy diamond is about Syd Barrett
Wish you were here is the anthem of my life
Careful with the Axe Eugene is great to drive to

And finally. Working at the ROM all those years and spending every weekend night watching LAser Floyd or Laser Dark Side of the Moon...must have seen both 100 times over. Floyd 3D...that was cool

P.S. Pulse, the live video was on MMM last night...great timing..GO FLYING PIGS!
 
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Lil'Timmy

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P.S. Several Species of Furry animals sitting in a cave grooving with a pict (or something close to it) - Ummagumma

Neatest song title ever.
 
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LoopeD

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You can't compare Meddle, which has 5 tracks, to the Wall, which is a concept double album. Meddle and Animals are my two favourites, but this doesnt mean the Wall was any less genius just because it was more "mainstream". By that argument, everything Zeppelin ever did was overrated, since all their albums were embraced by the mainstream..............

The Wall was a brilliant album, all the more so because of the tracks left off that were in the movie, like When The Tigers Broke Free. No other album tells a more compelling story, IMO.

Echoes and Fearless are my faves on Meddle, though San Tropez is cool too. Actually, the whole album rocks!

Most overrated album, IMO, is Dark Side. It didnt have the lasting power for me that many of the other albums do, though I worshipped it when I was 15. On The Run, Brain Damage and Eclipse are great tracks, though; however I wouldn't be putting Time on any time soon - between Q107 and me killing the album when young, that song has been killed..............

Great album nevertheless.

Other faves:

Final Cut - possibly some of Waters' best work, though the critics didnt seem to think so. Your Possible Pasts, Paranoid Eyes, The Final Cut, The Fletcher Memorial Home, and 2 Suns in the Sunset are all brilliant.

Wish You Were Here - enough said. Shine on You Crazy Diamond is one of the best Floyd masterpieces of all time, Have a Cigar is great fun, and Welcome to the Machine is creepy as hell - I think I heard a goa remix of it once.........:)

Atom Heart Mother - got into this relatively late - interesting.

Ummagumma - messed album........Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict?;)

Some Sid Barrett Floyd tracks rock too, such as Astronomy Domine, See Emily Play, Julia's Dream, Apples and Oranges, etc. Saucerful of Secrets is a great psychedelic album, too.

I enjoyed Momentary Lapse of Reason and the Division Bell, though this is far different than Waters Floyd (obviously), but still theres some solid tracks on these.

One more thing - Floyd concerts are the best experience ever - I hope they come back one day, even if they're all in wheelchairs.




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LoopeD

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Originally posted by Lil'Timmy
P.S. Several Species of Furry animals sitting in a cave grooving with a pict (or something close to it) - Ummagumma

Neatest song title ever.
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oh man that is freaky - I posted SSOSFAGTIACAGWAP at almost the same time as you!! :D




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Tyler

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did anyone catch the special on Muchmore Music last night and today. They showed one of the Floyds last concerts, and it was the most spectacular stage production I have ever seen. It was insane !!! I hope they have it on DVD.
 
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somasociety

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for pure bombastic, theatrical, mind-blowing, musical goodness, my vote's got to be with The Wall.

i heard that another brick in the wall remix at Bittersweet... sooo very very good...

there's a pretty slamming track by aphex twin (i think..) that slices and dices underworld's 'born slippy' & floyd's 'is there anybody out there' that's been floating around on napster, kazaa, etc. for a few years --> recommended listening.

oh, and that avalanches album kicks some major ass... an Aussie friend of mine is mailing me some of their earlier stuff - apparently it's more grungy/beastie boys-ish, less pop-flavoured electronic/sample-adelic goodness
 
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oeretS

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whoa

Roger Waters to kick off The Wall tour in Toronto - thestar.com

Toronto will be the first brick in The Wall Live, as Roger Waters, the former Pink Floyd front-man, kicks off his tour celebrating the classic album on Sept. 15, 2010 at the Air Canada Centre.

The official tour information was announced on Monday morning, with a 35-city itinerary including dates across the U.S. and Canada. Waters will perform the rock opera that he wrote over 30 years ago. One of the best selling albums of all time, The Wall has classic tracks like “Comfortably Numb,” “Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2,” “Mother” and “Run Like Hell,” and is considered one of the band’s masterpieces.

Waters last performed the work as a solo artist in 1990 in Germany to celebrate the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Ticket information is not known at this time. Waters’ official website (Roger Waters Official Site) has an infographic saying it will go live on April 12 at 2 p.m., and will may provide further information for fans.
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rave jedi

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Still proudly wearing my Division Bell 1994 tour T-shirt, even though sadly I know Roger Waters was not involved with Pink Floyd in that period. Any which way they were 2 kick ass concerts for the summer of '94 at the CNE Stadium. Can't believe it has been 16 years! :(
 
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Sal De Ban

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i took an elective 'history of rock music' class in uni, part of the music/arts faculty, and there wasn't even a mention of p.f.

i found that to be strange.
 
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