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Pearl killed by kidnappers

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by LoopeD, Feb 21, 2002.

  1. LoopeD

    LoopeD TRIBE Member

    Taken from CNN.COM:

  2. Moez

    Moez TRIBE Member

    this story made me think of Terry Anderson who had been kidnapped by Islamic Fundamentalists in 1985 and was held by them for seven years.
  3. LoopeD

    LoopeD TRIBE Member

    Good comparison, and not just Anderson was kidnapped. Lebanon's Islamic Fundamentalists took those hostages partly to blame the West for everything bad that had happened to them in the last 10 years. That and they wanted a shitload of money and media attention.

  4. OTIS

    OTIS TRIBE Member

  5. Nub!

    Nub! TRIBE Member


  6. Moez

    Moez TRIBE Member




    Last edited: Feb 21, 2002
  7. TaCk OnE?

    TaCk OnE? TRIBE Member

    wow, that's terrible.

    poor soul....rip.
  8. Jazz

    Jazz TRIBE Member

    Sometimes I hate the world we live in...

    :( R.I.P.
  9. Jeffsus

    Jeffsus TRIBE Member

    Yay religion.
    god is such a good idea.

  10. gollum

    gollum TRIBE Member


    But I like math. :)
  11. Spinsah

    Spinsah TRIBE Member

    Perhaps if the United States would make exceptions to their "we don't negotiate with terrorism" policy then innocent lives would not be lost.

    It sickens me to see a nation let a man die...they should have done everything in their power to ensure that Mr. Pearl didn't meet an untimely demise. There's something to be said about compassion, especially when faced by fundamentalists who are only going to become more radicalized after this inaction from the United States.

    Next time it might be ten journalists...maybe twenty! What will it take for the U.S to take off their fucking blinders and realize that their foreign policy is breeding death and suffering?

    R.I.P. :(
  12. Sporty Dan

    Sporty Dan TRIBE Member

    ...... uh.... that would just lead to everyone with a gripe against anything in the US to just start taking hostages.
    ......that would not help anything.....

    ........and I would like to point out that innocent lives would also not be lost if people would not take journalists hostage.

    .....And talk about idiots.... probably the only people in the world that would help these groups get their message to the world is the media. And now they saw fit to kill one of them.....

  13. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I saw this coming and I don't know how the U.S didn't, or maybe they did.
  14. Subsonic Chronic

    Subsonic Chronic TRIBE Member

    So tragic... his daughter will have never even known him.

    And although I don't think that giving in to the demands would keep future kidnappings from happening, I still believe that this incident is an indirect result of U.S. foreign policy.

    There's obviously a whole lot more anti-U.S. sentiment abroad than we would like to believe and especially since Sept 11th, many parts of the world are downright dangerous for Americans to be in.

  15. TILT_Lance

    TILT_Lance TRIBE Member

    that is exactly it right there
  16. Guest

    Guest Guest


    I still think that rather than simply declaring a "war" on terrorism they need to take a serious look at why it is that so many people hate them. Maybe if they could do something to change peoples opinions then they won't have to be so worried about another attack, and more importantly no more innocent american lives will be lost.
  17. TILT_Lance

    TILT_Lance TRIBE Member

    it goes a little further than just a pure hatred towards the US, they are lashing out against all of the west, catholics, and the jews, its just it happens to the US more because of press coverage of the whole issue.....if canada was the "super power" that the US is it would all be happening to us
  18. tobywan

    tobywan TRIBE Member

  19. Subsonic Chronic

    Subsonic Chronic TRIBE Member

    Exactly. The current "War on Terrorism" is fighting the symptoms of terrorism and not the root causes. Instead of trying to defuse terrorism before it begins, they're creating an even more hostile environment through military force and repression.

    As long as people around the world are suffering as a result of U.S. foreign policy, there will be people who want to destroy or harm the U.S. and its interests. No amount of police or military force can keep these sentiments at bay indefinitely, no matter how many billions of dollars are poured into it. The notion that terrorism can be destroyed through force is short-sighted and totally backwards. The 'War on Terrorism' as it is, stands to create future terrorists instead of wiping them all out as we are being led to believe.

  20. Rosey

    Rosey TRIBE Member

  21. LoopeD

    LoopeD TRIBE Member

    Its real easy to blame all of your troubles on another country, rather than yourselves. When we have a problem with something in North America, most of us don't set bombs, kidnap people and slaughter innocents to get our point across.

    Much violence in the world has nothing to do with the U.S. foreign policy, its My God Is Better Than Your God and My Bible Told Me To Kill All Unbelievers. In other words, lame excuses to commit meaningless violence.

    Too many people in too many countries are still stuck in the Dark Ages, and that isn't going to change any time soon.

    RIP Daniel Pearl, and I hope his killers are brought to justice. There are better ways of getting your grievances addressed than senseless killing; the more these acts of terrorism occur, the more their entire arguments look like the ravings of lunatics.

  22. LoopeD

    LoopeD TRIBE Member

    A point:

    As Sporty Dan pointed out, America cannot afford to negotiate with terrorists due to the obvious fact that people will resort to kidnap again to get what they want.

    In the same light, America also cannot respond to acts of terrorism by directly addressing the grievances of the terrorists, because that would show that terrorism actually works to solve your problems.

  23. graham

    graham Well-Known TRIBEr

    Pete, you can say what you want about US foreign policy, but this was the act of horrible INDIVIDUALS murdering a person. It's appalling, and to even attempt to rationalize it within the context of the "evils of America," gives it and them too much intellectual credit, sits way too far on the side of justification, and is totally offensive.
  24. graham

    graham Well-Known TRIBEr

    these people cut his throat with a sharp tool, his last words a declaration of his religion. There is no way they should even come close to rating any sort of political discussion, they're so far beneath it.
  25. Booty Bits

    Booty Bits TRIBE Member

    it frightened me to hear that one of the men from the National Movement for the Restoration of Pakistani Sovereignty said that Pearl was murdered because he was a Jew working against Islam.

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