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Own the Podium

CO2

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Own the Podium - 2010 is a sport technical program designed to help Canada become the number one nation in terms of medals won at the 2010 Olympic Winter Games in Vancouver and Whistler, and to place top three at the 2010 Paralympic Winter Games. The program is a collaborative effort supported by all 13 of Canada's winter National Sport Federations and the major winter sport partners including the Canadian Olympic Committee (COC), Sport Canada, the Calgary Olympic Development Association (CODA), the Canadian Paralympic Committee (CPC), and the Vancouver Organizing Committee for the 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games (VANOC). The focus of the program is to provide additional resources and high performance programming to Canadian athletes, coaches and support personnel to help them achieve podium success in 2010.

Collectively, the group agreed to pursue the goal of becoming the number one nation in medal count at the 2010 Olympic Winter Games. The goal for the Paralympic team is to finish in the top three nations at the 2010 Paralympic Games. A detailed report on the Canadian Paralympic program will be available in late February 2005. The partners agreed that Canada must change the way it delivers sport in order to accomplish these goals and created guiding principles for achieving their vision in 2010.

The program, detailed in a report written by sport technical experts, analyzes Canada's potential to be the top medal winner at the 2010 Olympic Winter Games. As part of the research phase of the report, sport experts in several countries including the United States and Australia were consulted for their expertise. The report concludes that with a focused vision, well-executed implementation and increased resources, Canada can be number one at home in 2010.

To achieve this goal, the report found that Canada would need to win approximately 35 medals in 2010, more than double the 17 medals won by the Canadian team in Salt Lake City in 2002. The report found that Canada currently does have the depth of talent in certain sports to increase the number of potential medallists for 2010. However, the Canadian team can only achieve the goal of 35 medals with a new approach to sport delivery supported by the federal government and sport leaders in Canada as well as a $21-million annual increase in funding for winter sports over the next five years.

This program marks the first time Canada's winter sport organizations have come together with their sport partners to map out a comprehensive plan that, if fully implemented, would give Canada's athletes the required financial and infrastructure support to help them perform at their highest potential.

More info on this program within this link...

What is the general consensus on spending all this money towards earning Olympic medals? We have homeless people on the street. Impoverished kids with no clothes to wear and little to eat. We have drug addicts who are wasting their lives away. A healthcare system that is on its knees. Shouldn’t we worry about these social issues first, and then perhaps spending frivolously on things like earning medals and holding Olympic games?

Personally, I believe the Olympics to have far more meaning than just about whos faster or stronger. I believe it helps the cohesiveness of participating nations, and also aids in the overall morale of the country by aiding patriotism..to name just a couple.

Are there other benefits and/or negatives to hosting the Games as well as to assuring our athletes do well at these games by pouring public money into these athletic programs? Should we be spending them on other things as stated above?
 

Ditto Much

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I have no real issue with blowing money on the Olympics. Although i agree it isn't the greatest use of funds ever and its a pointless goal I don't believe the cost is really that significant. I don't think that we have to pretend that society is collapsing becasue of government spending. The reality is that homelessness effects less people than testicular cancer yet costs us ten times more.

The homeless card has been overplayed. We're talking about less than 1/2 of one percent who can't keep there act togther.
 

Snuffalupagus

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I guess it all depends on where the proposed 21 million in funding comes from. It doesn't specifically state that the Federal Goverment would be on the line for it.
 
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Ditto Much

TRIBE Member
Snuffalupagus said:
I guess it all depends on where the proposed 21 million in funding comes from. It doesn't specifically state that the Federal Goverment would be on the line for it.


yeah but 21 million is still only 60 cents per canadian.
 

Flashy_McFlash

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Ditto Much said:
I have no real issue with blowing money on the Olympics. Although i agree it isn't the greatest use of funds ever and its a pointless goal I don't believe the cost is really that significant. I don't think that we have to pretend that society is collapsing becasue of government spending. The reality is that homelessness effects less people than testicular cancer yet costs us ten times more.

The homeless card has been overplayed. We're talking about less than 1/2 of one percent who can't keep there act togther.

janiecakes is turning redder by the second and if I were you, I'd duck.
 

dig this

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Hosting the Olympics can be a burden to the hosting nation, but it's definitly worth the investment to send your athletes and participate in everyway that you can. Without having a goal, people don't try as hard. So if you underfund the olympics, in turn you have less people trying to get there and less people being involved in amature sport. With less people involed in sport, you get a fat, lazy country...

I say fund fund fund... no better way to motivate athletisism...


and now.... back to surfing the net....
 
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CO2

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AgentSanchez said:
No mention of owning the podium at the Special Olympics?

"2010 is a sport technical program designed to help Canada become the number one nation in terms of medals won at the 2010 Olympic Winter Games in Vancouver and Whistler, and to place top three at the 2010 Paralympic Winter Games."
 

Kinger

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The term came from the plan of selling pieces of the 2010 podiums for profit. That money would then go to help pay for funding that was used for the athletes.

You could put 3 times more money into fighting homelessness and it would still exist.

In my correct opinion it is usually unathletic people that disapprove of funding athletics.

How fat are you CO2?
 
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dicksherwood

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I think people forget that we are an exceedingly wealthy country with a GDP in the hundreds of billions...we have the money to fund healthcare, subsidize housing, support daycare, primary, seconday AND postsecondary education, natives, environmental causes, transit, cities, rural areas, small business, big business, the poor, the infirm, the drug addicts, AND the olympics...unfortunately we just don't do a very good job of managing the incredible wealth we have.

$21 million for a little national pride and unity is a drop in the bucket, anyone who gets upset at this should be more concerned about the BILLIONS we waste on other crap.
 

CO2

TRIBE Member
Kinger said:
The term came from the plan of selling pieces of the 2010 podiums for profit. That money would then go to help pay for funding that was used for the athletes.

You could put 3 times more money into fighting homelessness and it would still exist.

In my correct opinion it is usually unathletic people that disapprove of funding athletics.

How fat are you CO2?

..and how fat headed are you?

If you read my post my friend youll realize that im not against it, but rather for it.
 

CO2

TRIBE Member
...i didnt even realize that part of the idea was to actually sell the podiums...thats a fantastic idea.
 
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Kinger

TRIBE Member
CO2 said:
..and how fat headed are you?

If you read my post my friend youll realize that im not against it, but rather for it.

Well you're obviously in pretty good shape. LOL

Ha ha you got me. I didn't even read past the first paragraph.

I hate when that happens.
 

Kinger

TRIBE Member
CO2 said:
...i didnt even realize that part of the idea was to actually sell the podiums...thats a fantastic idea.

Well I'm pretty sure I heard that somewhere. Although I may have made it up.

Either way it is a good idea.
 

-Mercury-

TRIBE Member
so the summer olympians get fuck all??

hmm, surely we could spend some of that cash to improve our shitty summer games results..........

i mean we're already one of the best in the world at winter sports,(though surely we can always improve) but we can't say the same about the "summer" games.
 

CO2

TRIBE Member
Kinger said:
Well you're obviously in pretty good shape. LOL

Ha ha you got me. I didn't even read past the first paragraph.

I hate when that happens.

"Tis all good..ive done it a million times before as well...

-Mercury- said:
so the summer olympians get fuck all??

hmm, surely we could spend some of that cash to improve our shitty summer games results..........

i mean we're already one of the best in the world at winter sports,(though surely we can always improve) but we can't say the same about the "summer" games.

That's a very valid point. However we certainly should focus on the one that we should be fantastic at first, then move on over to the summer version. Incidentally, the best Summer Olympics we've ever had was at the '84 Los Angeles Olympics when we went home with 10 Gold, 18 Silver & 16 Bronze for a total of 44 medals.

an interesting read of an article that is clearly against the games in Vancouver in 4 years...

Taxpayers pay while the world's elite play
As I sat and watched the opening ceremonies of the Winter Olympic Games in Turin on the CBC, I listened to the commentators gush over how in 2010 this event will be taking place in my hometown of Vancouver, BC. The fireworks explode. The skaters skate. It is an extravaganza designed to dazzle the eyes of the world. A fitting spectacle for the enjoyment of the world’s elite.

While the backstage parties and luxury boxes are used solely by the corporate and governmental elites, the cost of the Olympic party is paid for by the ordinary taxpayers of the host nations and cities. Turin is experiencing a $96 million budget shortfall on overall spending of $3.6 billion. Here in Vancouver, the Vancouver Organizing Committee (VANOC) has just announced that construction costs for Olympic venues has risen by 23%. This is even before a shovelful of earth has been moved. The Games are now estimated to cost $508 million.

The interesting thing about that announcement was that it came on the same day that the city of Montreal announced that after 30 years they had finally paid off the debt from the 1976 Summer Games they hosted. This was the Olympics that then Mayor of Montreal Jean Drapeau boasted had as much chance of running a deficit as he had of getting pregnant. It was unknown whether he birthed a boy or a girl.

This cost overrun announced by VANOC is independent of the cost overrun announced on the new convention centre that is being built (at a time when the number of large scale conventions is declining). It also doesn’t factor in the cost of new transportation projects such as the improvements to the Sea-to-Sky Highway between Vancouver and Whistler, the site for the alpine events or the new Canada Line rapid transit project.

The Canada Line has an interesting history. This is public-private partnership between Translink the local transit authority and SNC Lavalin, who also manufacture bullets for the U.S. Army to use in Iraq. Twice the local politicians voted down this project before it was forced through on the third vote by the neo-conservative provincial government fronting for the corporate elite.

To see the amount of money that the local tax payers are spending to prepare this party for the world’s elite to enjoy one would think that everyone in Vancouver were well taken care of. Unfortunately this is not the case.

Vancouver is situated in a stunningly beautiful setting. Located on the Pacific Ocean the nearby mountains provide an incredible backdrop. Stanley Park, located near the downtown core is a preserve of the original old growth forest with towering Red Cedar and Douglas fir trees. One can ski on the nearby mountains all day and then walk along the beach and watch the sunset. It is consistently voted one of the top cities in the world in which to live.

It is also the city with highest housing costs in Canada. Thousands of homeless people seek shelter in alleyways and under bridges and in any bit of waste ground they might find. The average price of a detached home is over $650,000 CDN and the average condominium will set you back over $300,000 CDN. Part of the original Olympic bid included that a large part of the athlete’s village that is to be constructed would be converted to low cost and affordable housing. However the newly elected city council has decided that the vast majority of the project will be sold at market prices.

So as I view the Olympics I realize they are just part of the culture of capitalism where the winner takes all. Where average people subsidize the already wealthy. Where precious resources are diverted from building a better world for all to live into the pockets of already bloated corporations. The Olympics have become just another circus to divert our attention away from the issues that really matter. Just hope and pray that the Olympics never come to your town.

An article by Jill M. of the Nogames 2010 Committee which details the debts of past Olympics, can be found here.

It fails to mention that the 2004 Summer Olympic Games in Athens, Greece, originally budgeted at $4.6 billion they ended up costing the people of Greece over $8 billion.
 
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