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Open decks nights?

DJ Bolivia

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I'm going to be visiting Toronto shortly and I have a free night on the 29th, a Thursday. I'd like to play somewhere, just for kicks. Any suggestions for a place in the GTA that might be receptive to an extra DJ, even if it's just an "open decks" night? I play house and progressive house.

Please PM me back rather than posting bar names here, so this thread doesn't get deleted as spam.

Also, what suggestions do you have for the best place to go party at, also that night, in case I can't hook up something of my own? I met a guy from TO when I was playing in Moncton last night - he said there are a couple of good afterhours clubs, but he didn't give me any names.

Thanks for your time!
- Jonathan
 

TRO

TRIBE Member
are there alot of "open deck" nights elsewhere in the world other then compitions and shit (IE hienken/smernoff events)

it just seems like an idea most club owners won't opt for...I can understand a band open mic night because the bands would (hopefully) bring thier friends and do the ticket sales ( sell 50 tickets you get a sweet time slot) which gets people to drink beer which pleases the bar owners...

as an "open deck" night wouldn't have the same effect I believe...
 

why not

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Originally posted by TRO
are there alot of "open deck" nights elsewhere in the world other then compitions and shit (IE hienken/smernoff events)

it just seems like an idea most club owners won't opt for...I can understand a band open mic night because the bands would (hopefully) bring thier friends and do the ticket sales ( sell 50 tickets you get a sweet time slot) which gets people to drink beer which pleases the bar owners...

as an "open deck" night wouldn't have the same effect I believe...
other than 'open source', which is a different concept (3 song limit), i don't think there's anything like that going on.

i know a couple bars tried it as a way of not paying DJs, but it never lasted, because free DJs generally suck.
 

TRO

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it would be hard to do it without pissing off people...you'd have an array of differnt generes coming in wanting to play and probably only have them play for hr tops...30 minutes realistically...

it just doesn't seem like a feesable idea thats all...
 
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DJ Bolivia

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The concept seems to work passably in several cities in the Maritimes. Of course, rather than being a "show up and you get to play" sort of thing, it's more often the case where a single DJ that wants a bit of publicity and chance to play will approach a bar owner to arrange for permission to be the "entertainment" for an off night. That host DJ then contacts other DJ's to come do guest spots (hour-long showcases, usually) for free or for a few drinks. The host himself (or herself) will do some playing in between the guest spots, to get some self-exposure. Most of the time, the host doesn't get paid, although they usually get an allowance of drinks (20 or 30 free drinks per night) from the bar to give out as promos to other DJ's or customers, which doesn't really cost the bar anything more than the $30 in stock used.

These nights usually happen once per week in a bar that is having a very bad night. That way, the presence of the guest DJ's doesn't drive existing customers away. The bar that I run (an on-campus university pub) does it on Tuesday nights, there's a place in Halifax that does it on Thursday nights, and Saint John had one on Fridays for a while until the bar moved in another direction. Fredericton has probably the best example. One of the small Pubs there has a night every Sunday which has turned into a huge night (70-100 people) for a bar that usually only seats about 40 people. If you're a bar manager and you're only getting five or six customers on a bad weeknight, what can you lose? It makes sense to take a gamble if you have someone you think you can trust to run the night and oversee the DJ's, to make sure that the equipment doesn't get damaged. The host also tries to regulate the skills of the DJ's and the styles played, so you don't get an hour of house to get people pumped up followed by a closing set of badly mixed D&B.

It would probably never work in a big bar - certainly none of the clubs around here that have tried it have capacities of more than 200 people. Actually, I guess there is one exception in Halifax, but that night is billed more as an "electronic music" night than "open decks" so the DJ's who play get longer spots and it is invite only.

The good thing is that like an open mic night for bands, the performers usually bring along a dozen or so friends, so at least there is a little bit of booze sold by the bar. Fifty people is better than five.

Yeah, the competition for shows in the Maritimes is pretty tough too. There just aren't a lot of clubs that are willing to fork out the money for one-time DJ's. Most of the big clubs have their own regular top-40 DJ staff, but not much else. If you're a promoter who is trying to throw a party (or even a decent one-off club night) around here, you're always running into problems with a lack of venues.
 
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chipotle

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try calling the clubs.

and offer your services.... get a calling car and start dialing.


they might be surprised but you never know.
 

tablist

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fifth element does open decks at clinton's tavern every other wednesday but its mostly hip hop. i spun at at fith eleent jam so i think you could get away with playing breaks there. i don't know about other genres, but its worth a shot. other than that, i dunno.
 

lucky1

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Shouldn't the question really be... "I'm going to Tornto and would really like to spin while I'm there. Who on tribe runs a night that they would let me spin at? ;)
 

DJ Bolivia

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"I'm going to Tornto and would really like to spin while I'm there. Who on tribe runs a night that they would let me spin at?
True, true, that works.

Of course, I just re-read my top post and realized that I wrote Thursday, however, the 29th is a WEDNESDAY. My mistake. Who's going to allow a DJ that can't even tell what day of the week it is :)

Well, I've got a couple ideas at least now, and I did already get a show on the 30th and a private party on the 31st, so even if I can't fill my night on the 29th it isn't a complete loss. Playing breakbeats might be an option too.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

- Jonathan
 
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Jeremy Jive

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A demo might help. Just throwing that idea out there. Nobody has any idea if you could even mix two glasses of water let alone match two white shoes (dryer not included). People want proof of what you can do before they'll book you around here. There is a tonne of competition and maybe 10% of the "DJs" are working "DJs". You just joined the 90% that are gunning for the the already taken gigs. You gotta give them something to base their decision on when decided to give you the work over somebody established.

Good luck, that's about the best advice I can give you.

jeremy - :confused: - jive
 
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why not

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Originally posted by DJ Bolivia
True, true, that works.

Of course, I just re-read my top post and realized that I wrote Thursday, however, the 29th is a WEDNESDAY. My mistake. Who's going to allow a DJ that can't even tell what day of the week it is :)

Well, I've got a couple ideas at least now, and I did already get a show on the 30th and a private party on the 31st, so even if I can't fill my night on the 29th it isn't a complete loss. Playing breakbeats might be an option too.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

- Jonathan
i've got a gig on that wednesday at the drake - what kind of stuff do you play? where are you coming from? i could use someone who could take over the decks here and there so that i can go outside and smoke.
depends on your style though - don't want to piss off my bosses by bringing in someone to play rotterdam.
 

Moe

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I just read this today on CNN....

LONDON, England (CNN) -- It looks like any ordinary nightclub.

On the packed dance floor, clubbers are moving to the music, obviously appreciating the DJ's selection.

But look a little closer at this London club and you will notice that, instead of turntables and endless sleeves of vinyl, the music playing out of the speakers is sourced from an iPod.

After three songs, the DJ steps down.

A number projected on the wall indicates it is time for another person to have a go with their MP3 player.

Welcome to No Wax -- the UK's first MP3Jing evenings, where ordinary punters get the chance to publicly show off the music stored inside their MP3 players.

The first No Wax evening -- wax being a colloquial word for vinyl record; and a play on British trip-hop label Mo Wax -- was held in the middle of 2003.

The concept is so popular, the evenings are regularly held throughout Britain, and the trend has spread as far as Tokyo and Hong Kong.

No Wax co-founder Charlie Gower told CNN that he and another friend -- both of whom DJ part-time with vinyl -- came up with the idea after using their Apple iPods to warm up their sets before switching over to vinyl.

"For regular DJs, the concept is too easy. It's a little boring: there's no flicking through records, there's no pulling them out of the packets," he said.

"So we thought if people who didn't normally DJ wanted to have a go, this would be the perfect way for them to do so."

The format of the evening works in a ballot type system. Those who want to have a go, take a ticket with a number on it.

When it is their turn to take control of the music, their number is projected on the wall.

Once in control, they share a set with another MP3 owner, alternating one of their songs with the other person. After three songs, they step down.

"They have no idea what the other person is going to play so they have to think on the spot of something that will work in well to keep the flow going," Gower said.

He said MP3 players were easily plugged into mixers, making the whole process relatively simple.

"It's not too often you find another use for something that it was never intended for," he said.

In the beginning, die-hard vinyl DJs were skeptical, Gower said. But they soon saw that it was a completely different ball game.

Dwayne Lewars, a 29-year-old graphic designer from London, has been turning up to No Wax evenings with his iPod since they started in London 18 months ago.

He has more than 2,000 songs loaded on to his iPod.

"I am not a DJ. I had never done DJing before this. It's quite a novel idea. You get to play exactly what you want to hear," Lewars said.

"With an iPod, there's so much to chose from, so much variety. It's nice to be able to play it in public. Normally I just listen to my iPod on the train or at work."

But he said playing at No Wax evenings had not spurred an interest in DJing with vinyl.

"I'll leave that to the professionals. This is just a bit of fun."

IPod jukebox nights are popular In New York and Washington DC, where clubbers get to play their own seven-minute set from the 3,000-odd songs stored on the club's iPod.
 

why not

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these nights are happening all over - alan webb from wabi does one in toronto (http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2004-10-14/music_vibes.php)

i think it's a neat idea, but a little disheartening for DJs.

tyler clarke burke has a new thing where she's set up an answering machine that you call and list your favourite guilty pleasures.
apparently at the Guilty Pleasure's night, she plays bits of the messages between the songs.


i believe that cocktail molotov may have a loose open decks kind of policy too, but i can't remember if they have proper turntables (it might just be on deck and a dual CD player).
not sure about that, but you might want to call them.
 

DJ Bolivia

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Demos

A demo might help. Just throwing that idea out there. Nobody has any idea if you could even mix two glasses of water let alone match two white shoes (dryer not included). People want proof of what you can do before they'll book you around here.

I definitely have demos. I usually give people my website address, but I'm a little nervous about listing that around here with the spam rules. Luckily, I've had two people PM me so things may be in motion. Thanks Jeremy ...

- Jonathan
 
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why not

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Originally posted by kaniz
Why? I think this is something to go out and enjoy in addition to real DJs, and not in replacement of.
it's disheartening because you see people having as good if not better of a time listening to someone who hasn't spent the time learning the craft.
makes you question why you bothered buying decks and learning to mix.
 

LivingRoomPornstar

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Originally posted by Booty Bits
this thread gave me the warm fuzzies cuz people helped instead of being dicks.
good luck bolivia.
me too, but I think that's because he was considerate and didn't seem like a try-hard.

Good Luck Bolivia. So you're from the east coast? where exactly?

Dan
 

DJ Bolivia

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I grew up in Nova Scotia, but I've spent the last twelve or thirteen years running the campus bar at Mount Allison University, a small school in Sackville, New Brunswick (a very small town). Since around 1990, I've been running the bar during the university year (September through April) and then working out on the west coast (BC, Alberta, the Territories) in the summers.

DJ'ing is just a fun hobby on the side. I've been playing since the mid 1980's, but didn't really get into playing electronica until the late 1990's.
 
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