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NBA Draft Lottery - RAPS WIN

agentRC4

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Raps projected 5th, and we're picking #1 = good for the Team, but its a weak draft. I think were taking that cat from Italy.
 

Sugar D

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awesome but it had to be the year that it's the weakest it's been in years.

Worst part is you have to commit top dollars & years to a #1 pick so it better be a good one.

If only they passed that min. age requirement after this draft, we could have Greg Oden!
 
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Gizmo

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If we take Adam Morrison, I am going to puke.

The salary implications aren't that bad either thanks to the NBA CBA. $3.6 mm first year, 4 year contract.
 

Sugar D

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it's not the 3.6m that scares me (although that is pretty high!) as much as the 4 year commitment does.
 

agentRC4

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The Raptors let go former Purdue coach Gene Keady. It's part of a shakeup under new general manager Bryan Colangelo. Mauricio Gherardini, an executive with Benetton Treviso of the top league in Italy, was added as assistant general manager. That's expected to help the Raptors get Bargnani, who played for Benetton. The talk is Bargnani's camp will put out word he could return to Europe--like Orlando pick Fran Vasquez did last year--if he's not a Raptors pick. That should scare off the top teams. The new Toronto philosophy is said to be to extend Bosh (he says he wants to return) and then concentrate on international players more comfortable playing in Canada. Chicago Tribune
this article was out before the draft but makes sense. Does anyone know about this guy?
 
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kuba

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from espn..

The lottery results are in and the Toronto Raptors are the big winners this year.

At this point very little is set in stone. Expect this mock draft to fluctuate greatly over the course of the next five weeks.

The process of team workouts has just started. Over the next few weeks the Orlando NBA pre-draft camp and the Reebok Eurocamp will dramatically alter the face of the draft.

But for now, here's our best stab, after talking to numerous NBA team sources, at figuring out how the draft might go in June.


CHAD FORD'S MOCK DRAFT
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS

Toronto
Andrea Bargnani Position: PF
Height: 7-0
Weight: 225
Age: 20
Country: Italy

The skinny: Raptors president Bryan Colangelo needs a center and a point guard, but there is not a legitimate candidate to be the No. 1 pick at either position. So Colangelo will go with the player he considers to be the best available. He knows Bargnani better than anyone else does and will find a way to play him with Chris Bosh.


Chicago (via New York)
Tyrus Thomas Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 229
Age: 19
School: LSU

The skinny: It's a tough call here between Tyrus Thomas and LaMarcus Aldridge. Aldridge would give them the low post scoring they need, but word is that the Bulls think Thomas has more potential.


Charlotte
Adam Morrison Position: SF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 205
Age: 21
School: Gonzaga

The skinny: The Bobcats need a scorer and a small forward. Morrison is not only agreat fit on the court, but he'll also get fans in the seats.


Portland
LaMarcus Aldridge Position: PF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 240
Age: 20
School: Texas

The skinny: Nate McMillan will be pushing for Brandon Roy here and he might get him. But Aldridge fits a need in the frontcourt.



Atlanta
Brandon Roy Position: SG
Height: 6-5
Weight: 195
Age: 21
School: Washington

The skinny: A difficult situation for the Hawks. They'd prefer to get their hands on one of the three bigs taken ahead of them, particularly Bargnani. But if all four are off the board, look for them to go with the best player available. Roy has the ability to swing to the point, especially with another good ball-handler like Joe Johnson in the backcourt. Roy isn't the perfect answer to the Hawks' point guard woes, but he will give Atlanta one of the biggest backcourts in the league.



Minnesota
Rudy Gay Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 222
Age: 19
School: UConn

The skinny: This is a good get for the Wolves. Gay was the consensus No. 1 prospect in the draft at the beginning of the year and still has the potential to be the best player in the draft. Combined with Kevin Garnett, the Wolves would sport one of the biggest front courts in the league.


Boston
Rajon Rondo Position: PG
Height: 6-2
Weight: 171
Age: 20
School: Kentucky

The skinny: This is on the high end for Rondo, but he has several things going in his favor. First, after a bad season, he's working out well and reminding scouts why they had him ranked in the Top 5 before the season began. On pure talent and upside, he's one of the Top 10 prospects in the draft. Two, he's a perfect fit in Boston. He's a super athletic point guard who can push it and play defense. His shot stinks, but given the number of Celtics who like to let it fly, he's not going to need to take many jumpers.


Houston
J.J. Redick Position: SG
Height: 6-4
Weight: 190
Age: 21
School: Duke

The skinny: The Rockets have a number of needs, but the biggest is two guard. This is awfully high for Redick, but he should be a good fit in Houston. With Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady facing constant double teams, the Rockets need someone who can make them pay from the three point line. The team also needs help at the point and up front and players like UConn's Marcus Williams and Bradley's Patrick O'Bryant are options.


Golden State
Randy Foye Position: SG
Height: 6-4
Weight: 205
Age: 22
School: LSU

The skinny: The Warriors don't have any glaring needs. With Baron Davis' health always in question, having a big time experienced combo guard like Foye could be a gem. Besides, at this point, he's the best player on the board.


Seattle
Shelden Williams Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 250
Age: 22
School: Duke

The skinny: The Sonics need defense and Williams provides that. He's one of the best rebounders and shot blockers in the draft. With Reggie Evans gone and Chris Wilcox hitting free agency, adding a big, physical player like Williams is a good insurance policy.


Orlando
Ronnie Brewer Position: SG
Height: 6-7
Weight: 220
Age: 21
School: Arkansas

The skinny: The Magic have had their eye on Roy and Redick. If both are gone, then the team must move on to Plan B of finding a big guard to pair in the backcourt with point guard Jameer Nelson. Brewer is a good fit. He can swing to the point, plays aggressive defense and knows how to get to the basket.


New Orleans/
Oklahoma City
Patrick O'Bryant Position: C
Height: 7-0
Weight: 250
Age: 19
School: Bradley

The skinny: After giving up Jamaal Magloire and losing Chris Andersen to a drug suspension, the Hornets lack that super athletic defensive presence that can rebound and block shots. O'Bryant is the best center on the board. He's very raw, but has the size and athleticism to be a significant presence in the middle down the road.


Philadelphia
Marcus Williams Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 205
Age: 20
School: UConn

The skinny: Allen Iverson shocked many with his strong point guard play this season, but the Sixers really need him at the two. Williams is the best pure point guard in the draft and it would be a mild surprise if he was still on the board here. He's the crafty floor leader that the Sixers have wanted for years.


Utah
Hilton Armstrong Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 235
Age: 21
School: UConn

The skinny: The Jazz's first priority is finding a scoring two guard. Foye and Redick are at the top of the list, but if they're both off the board, the Jazz will look to their other need at the center position. Greg Ostertag is retiring and the team could use an athletic shot blocker to help out Mehmet Okur and Carlos Boozer in the paint. Armstrong is a late bloomer who is still finding his game, but he does have the size, athleticism and shot blocking to be a legit NBA center.


NO/OC Hornets
(via Milwaukee)
Rodney Carney Position: SF
Height: 6-7
Weight: 205
Age: 22
School: Memphis

The skinny: The Hornets will be psyched if Carney is still on the board here. The team could use an athletic sweet shooting swingman and Carney has the experience to step right in and compete right away. Questions about Carney's toughness and desire are the only reason he's slipping.


Chicago
Mardy Collins Position: PG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 205
Age: 21
School: Temple

The skinny: Collins is a great fit for the Bulls. The team needs a big guard to put in the backcourt with the smallish Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon and Chris Duhon. Collins stands at 6-foot-7 and can play both positions on the floor. He's an excellent defender and is a crafty player who uses angles to get to the basket.

Indiana
Cedric Simmons Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 235
Age: 20
School: NC State

The skinny: The Pacers have needs up front and in the backcourt, but will have a hard time passing on Simmons if he falls this far. Simmons is an excellent athlete with excellent rebounding and shot blocking skills. With Jermaine O'Neal constantly nursing injuries, and with Scot Pollard leaving via free agency, finding a legit option to replace O'Neal is essential.


Washington
Tiago Splitter Position: PF
Height: 7-0
Weight: 240
Age: 21
Country: Brazil

The skinny: This is a steal for the Wizards if they can get it. On talent Splitter is a Top 10 pick, but he slips this far because of a big buyout with his Spanish team that will force him to stay in Europe one, maybe two more season. The good news is that when he does come to the NBA, he'd have a grat chance of beating out Brendan Haywood for the starting center gig.


Sacramento
Guillermo Diaz Position: SG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 190
Age: 20
School: Miami

The skinny: The Kings have been unconventional the past few years and it looks like they're heading that direction again. They missed Bobby Jackson desperately this season and are looking for an athletic two guard who can shoot it. Diaz wasn't a great shooter in college, but he's wowed several scouts in workouts with his shooting stroke.


New York
(via Denver)
Shawne Williams Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 225
Age: 20
School: Memphis

The skinny: Jalen Rose will be gone sooner than later and Knicks fans are still mourning the give away of Trevor Ariza at the deadline. Williams is a guy that Isiah Thomas can love. He's long, athletic, plays multiple positions and can shoot. He really needs another year of school, but playing for the Knicks is like playing for the JV at his point anyway.


Phoenix
Mouhamed Saer Sene Position: C
Height: 7-0
Weight: 232
Age: 20
Country: Senegal

The skinny: Coach Mike D'Antoni loves small ball, but he won't pass on the chance to get a big man if he has a chance. Armstrong is probably the best fit, but Sene has the most upside. He's a legit 7 foot, had a jaw dropping 7-foot-8 wingspan and proved at the Hoop Summit and in Europe that he can rebound and block shots at a jaw dropping rate.


New Jersey
(via L.A. Clippers)
Kyle Lowry Position: PG
Height: 6-0
Weight: 185
Age: 20
School: Villanova

The skinny: The Nets desperately need to upgrade their bench both in the front and the backcourt. Lowry is a super athletic, scrappy point guard who could help run the frentic pace that the Nets like to play. He's not the best shooter in the world, but he does just about everything else well. If he played another year in college, he'd have a shot at the lottery. That makes grabbing him here a steal.


New Jersey
Alexander Johnson Position: PF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 230
Age: 23
School: FSU

The skinny: One of my draft sleepers this year. Johnson may be the most athletic big man in the draft. He's got a 40 inch vertical, runs the floor well and has great toughness at the position. While scouts wish he was a little taller (he's 6-foot-9 in shoes) and a little longer, his explosive athleticism and toughness remind some scouts of Kenyon Martin. The Nets need to get more athletic and tougher up front and Johnson, though a gamble, just might deliver.


Memphis
Aaron Gray Position: C
Height: 7-0
Weight: 270
Age: 21
School: Pittsburgh

The skinny: The Grizzlies have been searching for a legit center ever since Bryant Reeve retired. With Lorenzen Wright hitting free agency this summer, the need has never been greater. Who better to fill that role than the guy who plays and kids of looks like Big Country. While Jerry West would prefer an athletic big man, Gray proved at Pittsburgh that he can be a formidable force in the paint.


Cleveland
Jordan Farmar Position: PG
Height: 6-2
Weight: 180
Age: 19
School: UCLA

The skinny: Danny Ferry will be doing back flips if Farmar is still on the board when they pick. Eric Snow peaked years ago and it looks like Damon Jones is on the down slide. There's nothing flashy about Farmar's game, but next to Marcus Williams, he's the best pure point guard in the draft.


L.A. Lakers
Shannon Brown Position: SG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 190
Age: 20
School: Mich St

The skinny: The Lakers don't need pure point guards in the triangle and Brown should be a good fit. He's tough, super athletic and has improved his stroke dramatically. Brown gives Phil Jackson another backcourt scoring option besides Kobe.


Phoenix
Quincy Douby Position: SG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 175
Age: 22
School: Rutgers

The skinny: Douby should thrive in the Suns small ball system. He plays multiple positions, is great from long range and knows how to light up the scoreboard. With Leandro Barbosa just one year from free agency (and with the Suns looking pretty capped out) he could be a worthy replacement. Texas' Daniel Gibson is also a good option here.


Dallas
Marcus Vinicius Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 235
Age: 21
Country: Brazil

The skinny: The Brazilian big man can play both the three and the four. He's a little bit of a project, but scouts that have seen him workout think he could be a sleeper. Given the way the Mavs are playing now, tough, versatile, athletic wing players seem to be in vougue.


New York
(via San Antonio)
Maurice Ager Position: SG
Height: 6-5
Weight: 180
Age: 22
School: Mich St

The skinny: The Knicks have a ton of guards in the backcourt, but what they miss is an excellent perimeter shooter. Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Quentin Richardson and Jamal Crawford are all better putting the ball on the floor. Besides, does anyone think most of these guys will be here next season?


Portland
(via Detroit)
Olexsiy Pecherov Position: PF
Height: 6-11
Weight: 222
Age: 21
School: Ukraine

The skinny: The Blazers second pick will probably stay overseas for another year or two. Pecherov looks like Keith Van Horn and has some of his versatility at both the three and the four. He's solid season at Paris Racing has given scouts hope that he might really blossom.



Other potential first rounders: Leon Powe, Josh Boone, Paul Davis, Richard Roby, Daniel Gibson, Nick Fazekas, Sergio Rodriguez, Rudy Fernandez, James Augustine, Vladimir Veremeenko, Damir Markota, Thabo Sefolosha, James White, Darius Washington, Curtis Stinson, Paul Millsap, Yotam Halperin


Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.
 

kuba

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Look for our new mock draft -- with the entire first round -- to appear shortly after the lottery results are announced tonight on ESPN at 7:30 ET.

The NBA draft lottery is tonight and the big question on everyone's mind is, who's the No. 1 pick in the draft?


The answer would've been a foregone conclusion had the NBA not passed an age restriction barring high school players from entering the draft. Greg Oden, hands down, is the best basketball prospect in the world. The second best prospect, Florida's Joakim Noah, decided to return to school for his junior season, leaving NBA teams in a bit of the lurch. Without Oden and Noah, there are no real franchise players in the draft.



AP Photo/NCAA Photos, Ryan McKee
Teams will have to wait a year for Florida's Joakim Noah.
That said, there is talent available at the top of the draft, with as many as five players currently in the mix as candidates to be the No. 1 pick -- one guard, one small forward and three big men.


LSU's Tyrus Thomas has moved past everyone on our Big Board in the space of a month.

At the start of the season he wasn't in our Top 100. But now many scouts and executives believe Thomas might be the best prospect in the draft. He isn't nearly as polished as you'd like a No. 1 pick to be, but he's long and super-athletic, with a great motor, and he proved in the tournament that he can change a game with his shot-blocking and rebounding. He even showed some glimpses of an emerging perimeter game. He's the least ready of the top prospects for the NBA right now, but has the highest upside.

Of the big men, Texas' LaMarcus Aldridge is the most ready to contribute now. While he still needs to add muscle to his lanky frame, that's the only real knock on his game right now. On offense he can kill you both facing and with his back to the basket. He's extremely difficult to guard in transition and he's a dominant force on the glass.

After leading our Big Board much of the season, Aldridge still has enough teams enthralled that he remains at No. 2. Still, it's not clear that any of the lottery teams are eyeing him for the No. 1 spot.

A month ago we wrote that Italy's Andrea Bargnani was a dark horse to be the No. 1 pick.

He's not a dark horse anymore. More and more GMs and scouts are returning from trips to Italy and raving about him. Several have declared that not only is he the closest thing to Dirk Nowitzki that they've seen, but that he's also the best prospect in the draft.

Bargnani isn't a Euro workout wonder. He's getting regular minutes in the best league outside of the NBA and has played a number of impressive games. He still needs to add strength and experience, but he's one of the most NBA-ready of the bunch.

The question with Bargnani: After the Darko Milicic disaster of 2002, and the Fran Vazquez disaster of 2005, does any GM have the guts to pull the trigger on an international player this high in the draft?

The international backlash issue lessened over the course of the last few months when Milicic started proving in Orlando that Joe Dumars wasn't crazy when he selected him with the No. 2 pick in the draft.

More worrisome is a rumor that Bargnani might refuse to report if he isn't drafted by the right team (read: the Raptors). The last thing a GM needs is for a No. 1 pick to refuse to play.


Among fans, the most popular player among the top five is Gonzaga's Adam Morrison. Though he lost a little luster during the tournament, the last college player to come into the league with this much hype was Carmelo Anthony.

Morrison is a crafty scorer who can light it up from everywhere on the floor. He also has the intangibles down cold -- he is a fierce competitor who shows up to play. However, his inability to defend and his general lack of athleticism have worried scouts all year. The closer we get to the draft, the louder those concerns seem to be.


The real sleeper this year is Washington's Brandon Roy. Roy, like Thomas, has emerged from the second-round pack to find himself near the top of the lottery.

Portland, Chicago, Charlotte and Atlanta are all seriously looking at him. Why? He's a strong perimeter player with the most NBA-ready skills in the draft. He has a well-rounded game with very few weaknesses. While he doesn't have the upside of the other four guys, he also represents a much smaller risk.

With all four of the top teams in the draft looking for veteran leadership and experience, Roy qualifies. Will it be enough to move him into the No. 1 spot? Probably not. But the fact that he's in the conversation speaks loudly about the season he's had … and about the relative lack of strength at the top of the draft.


Who will go No. 1? Over the past month, Insider talked to scouts or executives from every team projected to be in the draft lottery in an effort to determine what each would do with the No. 1 pick. Some teams were open, some refused to answer. Here's Insider's take on where each team stands in the five-way debate to determine who's No. 1.
 

Kazoo

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It seems that the best three players in the draft are about the same size and play the same position as the Raps two best players CV and CB.

I know the Raps played Charlie at the SF position, and that led to really interesting match-ups, but what would the team look like with 3 offensively minded people in the front court. I really think we need to have a more defensive-oriented person in the frontcourt. Then again I think we should be drafting the best person available rather than for our needs.

I say go for Bargnani!
 
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KickIT

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I wouldn't be surprised if CV and someone else is traded for a C or PG if the plan is to draft Bergani. Those are our greatest needs and this draft is heavy on 3 and 4s.
 

joey

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basketballjones said:
i say give the pick and anythign but cb and cv up for nash
are you kidding me?

with nashs current value they will have to give the pick & CV & CB and probally more on top of that too!
 
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Big League Chu

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The only Players the Raps will draft are Aldridge or Bargnani. They may trade down to get Bargnani as the Raptors are hiring the Gm from Benetton Treviso as Colangelo's assistant in a few days. The rumor is that Bargnani is only interested in playing for Toronto sending out cues that he may stay in Europe if any other team drafts him (i.e. Fran Vasquez). So I think the Raptors would be able to grab him at the 3 or 4 spot.
But Bosh is very high on Aldridge a fellow Texan that could play the centre in a run and gun style Phoenix type system. The other option is to trade the pick altogether. The Raps will not draft any other player in the number 1 spot IMO.
 

crazedcanuck

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060523.nba-side24/BNStory/Front

Raptors' drafting history
Globe and Mail Update

The Toronto Raptors last night participated in the ninth National Basketball Association draft lottery in the 12-year history of the franchise. The drafts:

1995: Toronto chose Damon Stoudamire, a point guard out of Arizona, with the No. 7 pick. Stoudamire became the Raptors' first major award winner, picked as the NBA rookie of the year.

1996: The Raptors won the lottery, but league expansion rules prevented Toronto from moving up to No. 1. That selection went to the Philadelphia 76ers, who chose Georgetown guard Allen Iverson. The Raptors, selecting from the No. 2 position, chose centre Marcus Camby from Massachusetts.

1997: The Raptors, with the ninth pick, dipped into the high-school ranks for the first time, choosing little-known Tracy McGrady from Mount Zion Christian Academy in North Carolina.

1998: In one of the best moves made by former general manager Glen Grunwald, the Raptors chose North Carolina forward Antawn Jamison with the fourth pick overall. The Raptors then flipped Jamison to the Golden State Warriors in exchange for UNC swingman Vince Carter, whom the Warriors had selected at No. 5. Carter won rookie-of-the-year honours.

1999: Holding the fifth pick, the Raptors selected 6-foot-11 Mississippi high-school star Jonathan Bender. In a draft-day agreement, the Raptors sent Bender to the Indiana Pacers for power forward Antonio Davis.

2003: In one of the deepest NBA drafts in history — which included LeBron James and Dwyane Wade — the Raptors snapped up a gem of their own in Chris Bosh, with the No. 4 pick out of Georgia Tech.

2004: In Toronto's darkest draft day, former GM Rob Babcock, on the job for less than a month, shocked everyone by picking lumbering centre Rafael Araujo out of Brigham Young with the eighth pick overall.

2005: Armed with the seventh pick, Babcock redeemed himself by selecting forward Charlie Villanueva from Connecticut. Villanueva was second in rookie-of-the-year voting.
 

crazedcanuck

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Noticed 200/01/02 were missing, went to NBA.com

http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/draft_history.html

2002
Kareem Rush*, Missouri --- (1st round, 20th overall)

*Rush was traded on draft night along with Tracy Murray to the L.A. Lakers for the draft rights to Chris Jefferies (27th pick) and G Lindsey Hunter.

2001
Michael Bradley, Villanova --- (1st round, 17th overall)

2000
Morris Peterson, Michigan State --- (1st round, 21st overall)

DeeAndre Hulett, Las Vegas, IBL --- (2nd round, 46th overall)

MoPete has turned into the team's iron man, and a great SG who scores and defends, and in the NBA draft, who expects anything from the 17th/21st picks... Bradley and Rush though were fairly highly regarded @ the time.
 
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