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N00b questions: free to air (dish)

alexd

Administrator
Staff member
OK, without getting too technical or anything... What the scoop?

1. Does it work reliably?

2. What basic gear do I need to get started?

3. How many channels can I get?
 

urbanriot

TRIBE Member
I'd hang fire on getting anything until the news of N3 being taken down in Europe and/or the full switchover to N3 happens with Dish. Personally I'd find a group of people and get in on a subbed bin for DirectTV while everything gets sorted out. Unless you're loaded or you buy a really cheap unit, it's not worth it right now.
 

Flashy_McFlash

Well-Known TRIBEr
Alex, are you talking about FTA Satellite or OTA Antenna? They are completely different. (former = illegal, latter = perfectly legal)

I only ask because I think you were inquiring about antennas a few days ago.
 

khemistry

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1. Does it work reliably?

2. What basic gear do I need to get started?

3. How many channels can I get?

1. My co workers and my boss have one. They keep telling me it's not bad and when it goes down they get the fixed (new program) in 24 hours. Been thinking about it for a long time but never really had a chance to do my research. We have a company that we deal with the sells the equipment.

2. Dish, Cable, LNB, receiver (as far as I'm concerned)

3. For all I know depending on what channel you want to watch.

As well with the location you have to be facing south west or something like that.
 

Stan

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If you're talking about Over The Air, it works pretty well. With the height of the CN Tower, you're pretty much guaranteed to get the Toronto channels. The US channels will depend on how close you are to the lake. Overall, the picture quality is excellent - even better than cable because the image isn't compressed. Depending on signal strength, you'll even get a channel guide. My friend recently built his own antenna from instructions on youtube and canceled his Rogers cable. He gets 9 HD channels and a bunch of regular ones. The only downside is setting up a PVR is pretty complicated.
 
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Vise

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1. Does it work reliably?

2. What basic gear do I need to get started?

3. How many channels can I get?

Assuming you are talking about FTA satellite... if so:

1. Yes, depending on what receiver you get. If you have the ability to run ethernet to your TV area (or are willing to purchase a Powerline Ethernet setup) then it will be up 24/7 with one of the Nfusion receivers.

2. As mentioned you'd need the receiver, dish + LNBs (hopefully multiple), cable from the dish to the receiver, and possibly a switch (usually included with the receiver).

3. Depending on your setup anywhere from 300 to 1500+ channels... I have 5 LNBs so pulling in about 300-400 channels per LNB, even after deleting a bunch of crap/duplicates I probably have over 1500 channels.
 

rod_g

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Noob q aswell. I want lots of soccer. Tired of paying for GolTV, Fox Sportsworld, etc. What would get me the most soccer channels, HD or non HD no pref since the feeds are 99% SD unless it's a major event like the World Cup
 

praktik

TRIBE Member
There's a package called Setanta sports (I think??) that gives you tons of soccer. I know Bell TV used to offer it but it was pricey.

EDIT: here it is: http://www.setanta.com/ca/ and its still available on bell and all other major providers you're looking at 20$ a month for it though at least!
 
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rod_g

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Setanta shows alot of English league games which I really dont follow, but I wouldnt mind getting it if it was free :)

Ideally, I'd want to get GolTV (the US feed), Fox Sports Channel (US feed), Fox Sports Channel Spanish (US Feed), Globo... all others would be gravy like Setanta. Is there a listing online to if they are available OTA from Toronto.

The Canadian versions of GolTV and Fox Sports are just terrible, thanks to CRTC programming guidelines, but thats what I pay extra for right now on Rogers. GolTV is going to get even worse now that MLSE bought them. I'm sure its going to be full of boring MLS games
 
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Vise

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If its on Expressvu and is a normal channel (ie. not PPV) you can get it for free using an Nfusion FTA box. If its on Dishnet you can get it using any FTA box.
 
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praktik

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All expressvu is locked down on N3 now, including non-ppv channels.

PPV was locked down first back in the fall, which is maybe where you're getting that misconception from - unless this Nfusion box is one of those internet key-sharing things?

A little risky depending on your ISP but yes you can do it that way.
 

Vise

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Yes and yes... no misconceptions as I was watching Bev HD last night. Nfusion box is up on all Expressvu channels aside from PPVs via S.U.N.S. (their update/replacement for IKS). Risk schmisk! :D
 

green_souljah

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OK, without getting too technical or anything... What the scoop?

1. Does it work reliably?

2. What basic gear do I need to get started?

3. How many channels can I get?



As mentioned they are doing a card swap (all the hacks are based on the old card) which will be complete sometime this fall/winter. They may or may not break the new encryption, up to you if you want to get started now or wait it out.

1. Sonicview has been up since December. You can get a SV4000 box for about $120-$150 now. IF it does go down, it will be back within 12 hours. You upload fixes using a USB flash drive, they are plastered all over the web for free, it takes seconds.

2. You need a dish (a bell one works best) and a receiver. You need to find the 110 or 119 sats (or both) a signal finder and a guy who has done it before works for this. (I sell dishes on ebay for about fifty bucks)

3. With one dish, you get about three hundred channels, with both sats (110, 119) you will get double.

Ive had it for years, Ill never pay for television.
 

greginhali

TRIBE Member
i will buy someone a case of beer to aim my dish set up towards dishnetwork.

set up:
viewsonic pro
dish with 3 LNB's


currently pointing at BEV.

i cannot for the life of me find DN. Im in the Christie Pitts area. you got some free time, i have some pints with your name on them.

thanks

g
 

green_souljah

TRIBE Member
i will buy someone a case of beer to aim my dish set up towards dishnetwork.

set up:
viewsonic pro
dish with 3 LNB's


currently pointing at BEV.

i cannot for the life of me find DN. Im in the Christie Pitts area. you got some free time, i have some pints with your name on them.

thanks

g


haha too bad you don't live in the 705. Thats my sliding fee for service provided, beers.

the best advice I can give you sitting in front of the computer is drop your dish down about 5 degrees and spin it to the right of where Bell was. Not very far either.

The two best tools you can use are an actual bell receiver (it will tell you "Wrong Sat-Echostar 110 or 119" or buy one of those 20 dollar sat finders from those scarboro punjabi sat retailers. Thats what I use. You may even be able to rent a Birddog from a sat retailer; thats what the actual installers use and find it in thirty seconds.
 
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xtcfreak

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haha too bad you don't live in the 705. Thats my sliding fee for service provided, beers.

the best advice I can give you sitting in front of the computer is drop your dish down about 5 degrees and spin it to the right of where Bell was. Not very far either.

The two best tools you can use are an actual bell receiver (it will tell you "Wrong Sat-Echostar 110 or 119" or buy one of those 20 dollar sat finders from those scarboro punjabi sat retailers. Thats what I use. You may even be able to rent a Birddog from a sat retailer; thats what the actual installers use and find it in thirty seconds.

I kept my 2700 for this reason :)

Jay
 

greginhali

TRIBE Member
ill try to get one of those sat finders....i heard they just beep, so you really dont know what sat you have picked up, but better than nothing......

but as far as getting one alex, go for it.....when it is up....it is a thing of beauty.
 

Cheer Bear

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Thanks for this thread Alex, since I lost DirecTV years ago I haven't gone back to satellite but have been thinking about making the switch again. Some of this stuff is really helpful. I'm liking the sounds of that Nfusion thing Vise is talking about. :)
 
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