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music production software?

Mr_Furious

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can anyone recommend some music production software I can use to play around with?

I'm looking for something that doesn't involve MIDI because all I have is a Pentium 2 computer and my turntables.

Or, does anybody have any software that they could possibly make me a copy of? I'll even bee nice enough to mail a check for postage :D
 
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AshG

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Reason is a self-contained production package from the propellerheads. Generally its well received in the production world, and some improvements have been made in this, their second edition, Reason 2.0.

Definitely a good way to get started. If you like it you may want to upgrade to a more flexible (and more expensive) work environment later.
 
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AshG

Member
Originally posted by swenard
At the risk of sounding dumb, what exactly is midi, anyway?

its short form for "musical instrument digital interface".
basically its the way your hardware stuff and your pooter talk sensibly to one another when transferring data.

employing a software-only setup allows you to circumvent the often frustrating difficulties associated with combining hardware and software equipment.

Cubase is software that allows you to arrange your music in almost any way you like, but it doesn't allow you to create music per se. Nor does it allow any sort of meaningful editing.
To use cubase, you'll need plug-ins(additional software) or hardware to generate the actual music.

its doubtful you'd find reason on morpheus as its a very large program, but i suppose you could try. i think i may have reason, or at least a demo version of it.

if you're into loops and sampling a lot, you may also want to look into a program called Recycle!, - its the king of loops and is dead easy to use.
 

Deus

TRIBE Member
Download a demo of Reason, to see how you like it. It's a wikkid program. It can be intimidating at first for someone who hasn't used hardware before, but if you play around with it long enough, you'll probably get the hang of it, and if you don't then a lot of people here would probably be able to help you. The full version sell for something like $450, which is not that much considering what you get, and the quality that you get. We all know of a certain someone that won a Juno using this program... :)
 

Mr_Furious

TRIBE Member
I have 228mb of ram, is that enough for Reason 1.0.1?

AshG would you be willing to mail me a copy of your demo disk if I pay the postage? or maybe even send it to me so that I can make a copy and then i'll send it right back?
 
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atomic

TRIBE Member
That should be enough - I was only saying that because when I ran it on my 128 MB G3 Mac there were some problems. I had to switch my virtual memory off to make it work. (I mention the mac 'cause I'm guessing it's a comparable system for speed with a P2)

you can download the demo versions of the software from their website:

http://www.propellerheads.se/

cheers,
a
 

AshG

Member
Originally posted by Mr_Furious
I have 228mb of ram, is that enough for Reason 1.0.1?

AshG would you be willing to mail me a copy of your demo disk if I pay the postage? or maybe even send it to me so that I can make a copy and then i'll send it right back?

Yeah sure. Actually i have a cd this guy gave me with a LOT of software on it - Cooledit, Recycle!, Reason, a bunch of plug-ins, Soundforge (I think), Cubase, ....
 

anastasia

TRIBE Member
I have Reason and the upgrade too..Cubase and a whole bunch others.
Good programs to have and easy to get.

If people have ftp sites I can upload to it. I have an ftp site but now its full and dedicated to trance, movies and mame.

I read that Tribe has a ftp site. Is it possible to upload the two cd's and upgrade to that.


:)
deb

I can dp B&P for Reason if people want it.
Or trade for trance sets.

Email me at anastasia1009@rogers.com
if you want the full retail version of it
 
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cdp

TRIBE Member
Here I go getting myself in trouble again.

Suggestions:

Are you musically trained? If so, I'd suggested you lean towards straight-forward digital audio sequencers, and use plugin software synths.

Fruity, reason, acid and similar apps are nifty, although they each have limitations that can become bothersome. If you want to have fun, they can be great. And yes, they can churn out some great music. But even something like sonar can be far more powerful.

Not trying to dis anyones favorite app... Just an opinion!!!

Btw, MIDI runs on far less powerful systems than audio (like, soft synth) systems. One of the funnest and most powerful midi sequencers I've ever used was good old c-lab notator running on an atari ste.

charles
 
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cdp

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Che
You're attending Harris and you still don't know what to look for :p

Well, that sheds sommore light on the subject...

How about downloading a copy of ProToolsFree, a copy of logic rocket and something reasonish. Ok, ok.. I give. Get Reason as well. It's a pretty good representation of what's to come anyway.

The pro tools interface is basically all over the place. Like the plague. And Logic rocket should soothe your brain after that... And reason is the adat of tomorrow, the kind of thing that'll be all over the place, and cheap, pretty soon.

And a good audio interface...

charles
 

Mr_Furious

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Che
You're attending Harris and you still don't know what to look for :p

they haven't let us touch any of the gear yet :(

all great suggestions from everyone......but, WHERE THE HELL DO I GET IT? and for free? I can't afford to pay $400 for new software that I'm not even sure my computer is capable of running
 

aether

TRIBE Member
my new favourite 'free' music toy is at:

http://www.buzzmachines.com

free for download, really amazing power, not too taxing on the processor. If you ever wanted to hook your 909 into a delay and through a vocoder, but didn't have any money to shell out for gear, it's one way to do it. the interface is probably pretty odd for anyone who hasn't used a tracker. try the tutorials.
 
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Brandon

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Originally posted by cdp
One of the funnest and most powerful midi sequencers I've ever used was good old c-lab notator running on an atari ste.

You got that right. Notator + Atari ST = good times.
 

matty

TRIBE Member
Troll alert: I just got Absynth PC VST yesterday. Reason can't touch it in sound generation capabilities; can't even come close actually. Unfortunately you'll have to learn a real sequencer like Logic, Cubase, Nuendo to use it :p

Absynth
 

beaker

TRIBE Member
i don't think there's much use in getting Pro Tools Free unless you're planning to do some recording or you already have gear. if you've just got a computer you can only, realistically, manipulate audio since it doesn't support VST instruments (i think).

logic or cubase is a good way to get into MIDI that won't require any gear because you can use vst instruments.

reason, acid, fruity loops, buzz tracker, etc... are all pretty fun just to start mucking around in. if you want reason 1.0, bring me 2 cds to school and i'll burn you a copy... :)
 

cdp

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by beaker
i don't think there's much use in getting Pro Tools Free unless you're planning to do some recording or you already have gear. if you've just got a computer you can only, realistically, manipulate audio since it doesn't support VST instruments (i think).

logic or cubase is a good way to get into MIDI that won't require any gear because you can use vst instruments.

reason, acid, fruity loops, buzz tracker, etc... are all pretty fun just to start mucking around in. if you want reason 1.0, bring me 2 cds to school and i'll burn you a copy... :)

If i understood correctly, the original poster is attending school for this stuff. So PTfree is a good way to become familiar with the industry standard (yuuuuuuck).

I prefer logic to PT even for audio, btw.

but someone looking to work in the area shouldn't really be thinking about dedicated sequencer/soft instrument packages like reason, at least not until getting a hold on the more pro stuff.

(same disclaimer I typed above applies here!)

charles
 
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