Mp3/CD Players = Godsend

el presidente Highsteppa · Jan 12, 2002

Holy shit, this is sweet. About 10 hrs of music on a single cd? Can it get any better?

From the Ministry of and the sound is about as good as a CD

Prime Minister Highsteppa

zoo · Jan 12, 2002

why would the sound be bad?

it just decodes the mp3 and plays it

not rocket science..

sound is as good as you encode the mp3 to be

Temper Tantrum · Jan 12, 2002

I got one for christmas last year , hours and hours of fun!

~allie~

Guest · Jan 12, 2002

Yes, it can.

I've got 200 hours of music on my MP3 player, which is about the size of a CD player. So good for long trips. I stay away from CDs...too cumbersome.

el presidente Highsteppa · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by Tearer:
Yes, it can.

I've got 200 hours of music on my MP3 player, which is about the size of a CD player. So good for long trips. I stay away from CDs...too cumbersome.

I like having the ability to switch up my shit and not having to bring it back to my pc to switch up the memory. Also, like to listen to my regular cd's as well

From the Ministry of more ammo

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el presidente Highsteppa · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by zoo:
why would the sound be bad?

it just decodes the mp3 and plays it

not rocket science..

sound is as good as you encode the mp3 to be

Just blown away by how good this is.

From the Ministry of coming from a school that believes that if it's too good to be true, it most likely is.

Prime Minister Highsteppa

zoo · Jan 12, 2002

i want an mp3 player so i can take new music to school for clases

but i want an mp3 cd player because it offers SO many more songs

but i don't want to pay for either

i'm still hanging on with my discman

OTIS · Jan 12, 2002

Yea, I've been waiting for them to come out with a half decent car deck that plays mp3's.. most of the good ones are WAAAY overpriced..

I have 50 cd's full of mp3's that would nicely replace the need for all these hundreds of potential coasters that are scatered around my room.

-OTIS

Guest · Jan 12, 2002

More ammo:

My regular CDs are ripped to my MP3 player. I only change the music in memory about once every 2 months. Seriously, it takes that long to listen to everything I have on there.

I have most Global Undergrounds, all the Nubreeds, most of the Renaissance etc. ready to go anytime. Plus all my old shit. Love it.

el presidente Highsteppa · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by Tearer:
More ammo:

My regular CDs are ripped to my MP3 player. I only change the music in memory about once every 2 months. Seriously, it takes that long to listen to everything I have on there.

I have most Global Undergrounds, all the Nubreeds, most of the Renaissance etc. ready to go anytime. Plus all my old shit. Love it.

Your playlist sounds like I would buy a whole separate mp3 player for just the GU's, Nubreeds and Renaissance stuff, and another one for shit that I'd want to change up.

From the Ministry of dayum

Prime Minister Highsteppa

Guest · Jan 12, 2002

heh. nah, those have remained - I just remove old stuff I don't listen to when I get something new. 6 gigs is a lot of room to play with.

deep · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by zoo:
why would the sound be bad?

it just decodes the mp3 and plays it

not rocket science..

sound is as good as you encode the mp3 to be

there are differences in sound quality between codecs. for example the lame codec is generally recognized as being the best software mp3 codec and in extensive testing was pretty damn difficult to differentiate from the original. the xing codec in comparison tends to rip off a lot of high frequencies. as well sound quality of a device depends not only on how well the mp3 is encoded but the frequency profile of the player.

deep · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by Tearer:
I stay away from CDs...too cumbersome.

But good for interchanging between computer for sharing, as well as being somewhat protective towards loss/theft/damage since data is distributed across mediums and not just restricted to one place. To draw an analogy it's like having all the gold in Fort Knox spread out in different places, if one place gets knocked off it isn't too big a loss.

deep · Jan 12, 2002

what player did you get james?

el presidente Highsteppa · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by deep:
what player did you get james?

Never one for peer pressure, I went for the Sony and got a VERY good deal with it, and without having to sacrifice the warranty or anything else to get it

From the Ministry of very good deal = $250.00 Canadian. Most places that I tlaked to about the Rio Volt were charging $320.00 without taxes for the latest model.

Prime Minister Highsteppa

Variant · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by deep:
But good for interchanging between computer for sharing, as well as being somewhat protective towards loss/theft/damage since data is distributed across mediums and not just restricted to one place. To draw an analogy it's like having all the gold in Fort Knox spread out in different places, if one place gets knocked off it isn't too big a loss.

Not exactly. Having a hard drive 6 gig you'd normally fill it up with stuff that's already backed up on your puter(s) and cd's. The only thing that can happen is hard drive failure which would result in reloading after a reformat. Also there is no media so there's nothing to lose or steal. Sharing between puters is easier too.. just grab a USB cable/drivers and you can give friends gigs worth of stuff in minutes. No need to burn or copy. I know i can't go back.

deep · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by el presidente Highsteppa:
Never one for peer pressure, I went for the Sony and got a VERY good deal with it, and without having to sacrifice the warranty or anything else to get it

Does the sony model allow firmware upgrades?

zoo · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by deep:

there are differences in sound quality between codecs. for example the lame codec is generally recognized as being the best software mp3 codec and in extensive testing was pretty damn difficult to differentiate from the original. the xing codec in comparison tends to rip off a lot of high frequencies. as well sound quality of a device depends not only on how well the mp3 is encoded but the frequency profile of the player.

there's an mp3 player that uses a "xing" codec?

i would assume any given mp3 player would be able to reproduce 44khz 192kbs mp3 sound quality accurately.

it's not really asking that much

and i would assume that to stay competitive, all mp3 hardware players would be using top quality codecs ..

and it's unclear what you mean by frequency profile of the product.

do you mean which frequencies the processor operates at, the range of output, or what?

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i think you're picking just an argument for fun.

deep · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by Variant:
Not exactly. Having a hard drive 6 gig you'd normally fill it up with stuff that's already backed up on your puter(s) and cd's. The only thing that can happen is hard drive failure which would result in reloading after a reformat. Also there is no media so there's nothing to lose or steal. Sharing between puters is easier too.. just grab a USB cable/drivers and you can give friends gigs worth of stuff in minutes. No need to burn or copy. I know i can't go back.

Problems -

1] if you have more than 6 gigs of mp3's
2] if you have a hard drive failure (I've had 5 in the past 2 years)
3] Burning to CD is faster than writing via USB
4] Reading from a CD is faster than reading from USB

zoo · Jan 12, 2002

and if there was an edit button i'd switch the order of "picking" and "just" to "just picking".

i think our uber-lame ubb options have to be changed to include the edit button.

PosTMOd · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by Variant:
Also there is no media...

Must be some new technology, because even hard drives use a medium...

FYI: medium is the singular of media... though, admittedly, the usage has changed in both the computer and in the biotech fields... kind of like like data being the plural of datum...

el presidente Highsteppa · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by deep:
Does the sony model allow firmware upgrades?

Ummmmm..uuhhhhh....*consults instruction booklet*

Maybe?

From the Ministry of not sure

Prime Minister Highsteppa

Guest · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by Variant:
Not exactly. Having a hard drive 6 gig you'd normally fill it up with stuff that's already backed up on your puter(s) and cd's. The only thing that can happen is hard drive failure which would result in reloading after a reformat. Also there is no media so there's nothing to lose or steal. Sharing between puters is easier too.. just grab a USB cable/drivers and you can give friends gigs worth of stuff in minutes. No need to burn or copy. I know i can't go back.

Yah, that's the thing. I have everything backed up on original CD or on my computer's hard drive. And my MP3 player couldn't get wiped out by a virus or anything because the only files it uses are .mp3 and .wav. I guess someone could steal it, but I still have all my data backed up.

And like Variant said - you just let the data flow across the USB cable.

My only complaint is that Creative won't support XP with my version yet. Thankfully, I have good music on my player I won't get sick of for a while.

deep · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by zoo:
there's an mp3 player that uses a "xing" codec?

No, I was just using software codecs as an example of how there are sound quality differences between codecs.

i would assume any given mp3 player would be able to reproduce 44khz 192kbs mp3 sound quality accurately.

Read r3mix.net

and i would assume that to stay competitive, all mp3 hardware players would be using top quality codecs

I don't know if you've noticed or not but sometimes companies try to make a profit by cutting costs and corners instead of turning out the highest quality product that they can

"made in mexico"

and it's unclear what you mean by frequency profile of the product.

The wider the range of sound frequencies that can be produced by a piece of hardware (headphones, speakers, players, etc.) the more prolific the sound. Deeper bass, greater treble detail, etc.

i think you're picking just an argument for fun.

I'm not picking an argument. I'm stating facts

Don't take my word for it, see any of the hundred threads on mp3 players @ the audio visual forum @ arstechnica.com

deep · Jan 12, 2002

Originally posted by el presidente Highsteppa:
Ummmmm..uuhhhhh....*consults instruction booklet*

Maybe?

From the Ministry of not sure

Prime Minister Highsteppa

That's one of the biggest features of the Rio Volt, firmware upgradability. Basically means that they can rewrite how the player works, its features, quality, timing, etc. by simply downloading an update from their site to the player. As far as I know there aren't many players on the market that allow this upgradeability. Allows them to improve quality without having to overhaul the player from the hardware. That's one of the reasons why I opted to go for the rio volt over the sony.

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