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Mixing: pitch control vs. touching the plate

pr0nstar

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You people who touch... do you touch the record?

Just wondering, I usually touch the side of the platter to slow and to speed up I twist the centre piece, not the actual vinyl.

pr0n
 

kodos

TRIBE Member
do people actually touch their vinyl? i nearly flip out on people when i'm out and they hand me a record i just put on like it was a dinner plate

no touchy the grooves s.v.p.
 

Suke

TRIBE Member
Well ... when I'm behind the 1's and 2's I do the pitch and everything is on point like The House Of Pain, but SOMETIMES I have bad luck because the mix and blend sessions tend to fall off after a minute which doesn't make much sense to me. To rectify the situation I tweak the beats on one record and with the other hand I am trying to use the control on the other record. I'm hoping that people won't hear the fall-off because I am tweaking to cover up the pitch touch up.

S=D=7 TURBOMIX 7.0
 
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Guest

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I use both and I also twist that little knob thingy in the middle. you can do that in the middle of a mix and you won't hear the records change pitch.
 

CC

TRIBE Member
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Smiley Jo:
With only one turntable??
I don't know about that...


Joanna
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that would just take more talent. imagine if you could.....

CC
 

Suke

TRIBE Member
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ~dazed~:
I use both and I also twist that little knob thingy in the middle. you can do that in the middle of a mix and you won't hear the records change pitch.</font>
Word Dazed. Word!. You know the drill.

Moved UNDERCOVER dj and no one else will know ... like WHOA!
 

Chiclet

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Some of the best DJs in the world never touch the platter.

I like riding the pitch. That way when you have to correct, it's not nearly as noticeable. Plus, you can correct using both decks simultaneously.

I can usually do it pretty easily, except for when I'm nervous, lol
 

Chiclet

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Chiclet:
Plus, you can correct using both decks simultaneously.
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Or, rather, it's easier to correct w/ both decks.

Using solely the pitch also leaves more freedom to play w/ the eqs and what not with the other hand.
 

Lexicon

TRIBE Member
Both.

I usually prefer slowing down the record by running finger along the platter, occasionally, speeding up by giving a slight subtle nudge on the vinyl label.
(however, when dealing with melodies, speeding up/slowing down using hands-on technique can cause quite abrupt key changes, that is one reason why using pitch sliders are the best option.)

When in the mix, as much as possible I'll try not to touch the vinyl or platter, purely using the pitch slider to make minute adjustments.

It all depends on situations, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.
 

SENSEi

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A little from column A
A little from column B

I try to use the pitch as much as possible..

I'd have to agree that most of the best Dj's are all about the pitch..

Push/Pull is for emergency situations..

SENSEi
 

Finch

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I always use basically only the pitch control when I'm beat-matching the cued record in my headset - but during the live mix, I might touch the platter or spindle to speed/slow the record.

But I agree with everyone here - if you can stick to just adjusting the pitch control, everything should work out better for you. Simply because it's a more gradual change - if you start going the wrong way, you can usually fix it before it gets really bad. But if you push a record when you should have slowed it down, it instantly sounds like shit...

Finch.
 

beaker

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i try to just use the pitch control, but sometimes IT'S SPINNING AND IT'S JUST SO PURDY, I GOTTA TOUCH IT!

when you're recording though, try to avoid touching the record at all since it becomes much more noticeable when played back.

i also think it's important to mention that almost every adjustment by hand to the record, should be followed up with an adjustment on the pitch control anyhow. if the speed is out, it needs to be corrected.
 

funkNstyle

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pr0nstar:
You people who touch... do you touch the record?

pr0n
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Touch the platter to slow and the actual record to speed up. All the colour on my vinyl is faded around the whole from pusing it forward.

I wish i could just use the pitch but as everyones said its a hard habit to break. VERY hard.

jonny
 

Bass-Invader

TRIBE Member
pitch control is the best.
especially if you go from you're own turntables, to someone else's shitty belt drives, touching the plate is a *bad* idea.

plus riding the pitch control always sounds as subtle as you move it, whereas different records push easier than others(especially warped ones) and can throw you off..
 

Robb G

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by coleridge:
It's all about riding the pitch control ... you'll be such a better mixer in the long run. I stress that to any DJ starting out.

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I couldn't agree with you more, you will always hear a DJ's "adjustments" when he/she is pushing or pulling, using the pitch is way more subtle and harder to detect.

Just watch any veteran DJ who constantly has silky smooth mixes....they ALWAYS use the pitch.

Robb
 

d.code

TRIBE Member
I never touch the plate. I used to all the time... but now- I usually always have one hand on the pitch so it can always be fixed. Makes it easier to play on 3 decks that way.

Cheers
Tyler
 

d.code

TRIBE Member
Always having your hand ont he pitch =
accuracey
perfect controll
and you will find your skills will improve alot faster.
 

acheron

TRIBE Member
d.code = DJ Red Green

Remember, Always Keep Your Hand On The Pitch.

And if you can't be handsome, be handy!
(#1 rule of the DJ. ie. Tiesto vs. DJ Dan)
 

Mike Richards

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Smiley Jo:
And yours is??

Joanna


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Using The pich only is much more subtle. Even if you screw up some times it's not as noticable when you let the motor do the work. So I guess I would say use the pitch control.
 

TraNceAhoLic

TRIBE Member
pitch control myself, it gets difficult, but it's worth it in the end

coelridge gave me this little piece of advice in the summer!

thanx man
 

satori

TRIBE Member
I prefer using the pitch control but when it comes time to bust out the tricks (doubles, scratching,offbeat spinbacks to back on beat,juggling etc) it's impossible to avoid the platter. When playing on 3 decks it's most important to always use the pitch control because when you constantly have 2 or 3 decks running at the same time even the slightest touch can cause a train wreck. I personally find that practicing mixing with just the pitch control and without headphones is a good way to sharpen up your skills.
 

DJAlchemy

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by stretchandhooker:
Just using the pitch is the best way to
get the smooth mix and confident aproach . But hey after a wack of drinks and such , anything that keeps the crowd bumpin' ! yer shoe , an empty Heinekin bottle, sometimes even Hooker when he's passed out !
My point, have fun guys !
s.
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haha pure gold! I think I've even seen the heinekin bottle make an appearance before.


I'll push/pull when I'm cueing up and beatmatching, but during a mix I try not to touch the record; especially to speed it up. Sometimes the record may be a lil loose on the mat and by pushing it even a little you could throw it several bars ahead by accident. I think that touching the platter gently to slow it down is acceptable, but as Matt Said riding the pitch is the best way to go.

Peace & love. D
 
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