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Maple Leaf on baggage irks 'sensitive' Americans

Woody

TRIBE Member
Did anyone else see this article? I appologise if someone beat me to this.

NEWS STORY
Canadian flag causes flap in the U.S.
Maple Leaf on baggage irks 'sensitive' Americans

Jack Aubry
The Ottawa Citizen

OTTAWA -- Canadians should be careful not to appear "boastful" to Americans, who are insecure because of the war in Iraq and admit they are annoyed by northerners showing off the red maple leaf on their luggage when they travel, a recent federal report warns.

In focus groups held this fall in four U.S. cities where the federal government is opening consulates, Americans acknowledged they don't know much about Canadians.

"Some participants expressed a certain amount of annoyance at what is perceived as a systematic attempt by Canadians to make the statement that they are not Americans by sporting the maple leaf," said the recently released report. "This underscores the American sensitivity at feeling rejected by the rest of the world ...."

A front-page story by the New York Times this week, which declared that Canada's stance on social issues is opening rifts with the U.S., is unwittingly confirmed with the findings of the report.

Canadian comedian Rick Mercer said at a recent Toronto show that being attached to America is like "being in a pen with a wounded bull," joking that between gay marriage and pot smoking, "it's a wonder there is not a giant deck of cards out there with all our faces on it."

The report says even Americans who blame the Bush administration to some extent for the country's poor relations with the world, do not seem to understand why friendly countries and neighbours such as Canada would want to distance themselves from Americans.

For instance, an American from San Diego is quoted saying: "What bugs me about Canadians, if I may, is that they wear that damn patch on their bags, the Canadian flag patch. That way, they differentiate themselves from us."

The report is based on eight focus groups conducted in September by Millward Brown Goldfarb in San Diego, Raleigh, Denver and Houston where Canadian consulates are in the process of opening.

Pierre Bechard, a spokesman for Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada, said Millward Brown Goldfarb was paid $49,543 for the October report and focus groups. He said the findings will act as a base for the consulates to work to understand how much Americans understand about Canada and how they feel about their relationship with their northern neighbours.

© Copyright 2003 Vancouver Sun
 

shylock_one

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Woody



"Some participants expressed a certain amount of annoyance at what is perceived as a systematic attempt by Canadians to make the statement that they are not Americans by sporting the maple leaf," said the recently released report. "This underscores the American sensitivity at feeling rejected by the rest of the world ...."



LOL
 

DeepSix

TRIBE Promoter
So what about all the USAers who go around chanting U. S. A. and wearing the stars and stripes on their shirts, caps, whatever.

Americans are so patriotic... What's wrong with Canadians being patriotic?

They are sooooo sensitive.

oh...

and hypocritical.
 
Originally posted by Woody
For instance, an American from San Diego is quoted saying: "What bugs me about Canadians, if I may, is that they wear that damn patch on their bags, the Canadian flag patch. That way, they differentiate themselves from us."
And foil any hopes of being mistake for an American by any terrorist

Go operation protect whitey.
 
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PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
Originally posted by Woody
Canadian comedian Rick Mercer said at a recent Toronto show that being attached to America is like "being in a pen with a wounded bull," joking that between gay marriage and pot smoking, "it's a wonder there is not a giant deck of cards out there with all our faces on it."
I'd be the Joker.
 

Eclipze

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by DeepSix
So what about all the USAers who go around chanting U. S. A. and wearing the stars and stripes on their shirts, caps, whatever.

Americans are so patriotic... What's wrong with Canadians being patriotic?

They are sooooo sensitive.

oh...

and hypocritical.
i totally agree.. it's not like they jam the bloody stars and stripes down everyone's throat all the time. sheesh
bunch of fuckin pussys
 
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nusty

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Lurch
What bugs me is cars with Ontario plates and US flags on the back window!! WTF!!
Then I'm sure it bugs americans that I have US plates with a canadian flag on the back of mine.
 

Evil Dynovac

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This is total bullshit - I even think the article is suspect.

Ya please everyone, don't display your country's colours with pride, you may offend a nation who has turned their country into shit.
 
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Viceroy

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I'm glad that you guys found another "article" that quotes some fuck who obviously has problems, but, in the end makes it easy to laugh about Americans again. Not all of us are as idiotic as the people quoted in this article, and for that matter the one that wrote it.

Sure, my country is messed up. I don't believe in many of the things our administration does. I can only hope that my vote in the next election will help get W out and someone with a clue in.

Peace,
Steve
 

Subsonic Chronic

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Evil Dynovac
This is total bullshit - I even think the article is suspect.
It's a Sun newspaper. Surprised?

I gotta agree with Viceroy on this one. It sounds like the writer of this beautiful piece of 'journalism' ( :rolleyes: ) came across a couple of total dolts at the airport and thought that they represented a big chunk of the U.S. population.

This is typical Sun trash, not to be taken seriously.
 
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Ditto Much

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Subsonic Chronic
It's a Sun newspaper. Surprised?

I gotta agree with Viceroy on this one. It sounds like the writer of this beautiful piece of 'journalism' ( :rolleyes: ) came across a couple of total dolts at the airport and thought that they represented a big chunk of the U.S. population.

This is typical Sun trash, not to be taken seriously.
although true lets all be thankful that they really don't travel much. god damn they're even going to cuba!! is there not a place left on earth where texans just don't exisist!!
 

oddmyth

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Subsonic Chronic
It's a Sun newspaper. Surprised?

I gotta agree with Viceroy on this one. It sounds like the writer of this beautiful piece of 'journalism' ( :rolleyes: ) came across a couple of total dolts at the airport and thought that they represented a big chunk of the U.S. population.

This is typical Sun trash, not to be taken seriously.
Yeah, cuz god knows I would pay someone 50G's to ask a few dolts at an airport what they thought of my country. There is some credibility left in journalism.

This is typical debunking of journalism, not to be taken seriously.

odbx
 

Robb G

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Me and my roomate Mike have been educating our new roomate from Vegas on everything Canuck:

- Canadian Tire money
- The importance of hockey,
- General history and geography (which includes making sure she understands that Winnipeg is in the middle of nowhere).
- Made her watch "Bowling For Columbine" (she had never heard of Michael Moore).
- Pointing out "famous" Canadians that she assumed were Americans, some we were more proud of then others ;) Shania Twain, Jim Carrey, Pamela Anderson ect.
- Celebrating Thanksgiving in October.
- Maple Syrup.
-We've even got her saying "Eh!".

A few weeks ago she was all worked up asking us "what the hell is the deal with the maple leafs everywhere....storefronts, signs and so many logos." she was upset and didn't understand why so many businesses here try to identify themselves as "proudly Canadian".



Here's a twist on the same article from the Post.

NATIONAL POST
Monday, December 08, 2003

Canadians too patriotic, Americans say in study

Jack Aubry
CanWest News Service

OTTAWA - Canadians should be careful not to appear "boastful" to Americans, who are insecure because of the war in Iraq and admit they are annoyed by northerners showing off the maple leaf on their luggage when they travel, a federal report says.

In focus groups held this fall in four U.S. cities where the federal government is opening consulates, Americans acknowledged they do not know much about Canadians. Many did not know Canada did not support the United States in the war in Iraq.

"Some participants expressed a certain amount of annoyance at what is perceived as a systematic attempt by Canadians to make the statement that they are not Americans by sporting the maple leaf," said the recently released report.

"This underscores the American sensitivity at feeling rejected by the rest of the world ..."

The report says even Americans who blame the Bush administration to some extent for their country's poor relations with the world do not seem to understand why friendly countries and neighbours such as Canada would want to distance themselves from Americans. An American from San Diego is quoted saying: "What bugs me about Canadians, if I may, is that they wear that damn patch on their bags, the Canadian flag patch. That way, they differentiate themselves from us."

Canadians are "very patriotic," freely acknowledging they are from Canada while abroad, observed a respondent from Raleigh, N.C. "Americans will tend to not even want to tell people because they think they'll get bad vibes from them," he added.

The report is based on eight focus groups conducted in September by Millward Brown Goldfarb in San Diego, Raleigh, Denver and Houston where Canadian consulates are in the process of opening.

Pierre Bechard, a spokesman for Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada, said Millward Brown Goldfarb was paid $49,543 for the October report and focus groups.

He said the findings will act as a baseline for the consulates to work to understand how much Americans understand about Canada and how they feel about their relationship with their northern neighbour.

From the findings, federal employees opening the consulates will have their work cut out for them. Most participants said they were "shocked" by a fact sheet about Canada that they were given during the focus groups.

"A few express some concern over the U.S.'s implied dependence on Canada for energy ... However, Canada should be careful not to appear 'boastful,' which could backfire, as Americans do not like to be reminded of any kind of dependence on another country," the report warns.

It says while there is some resentment over Canada's refusal to join the Americans in the war with Iraq, it is currently tempered by "a feeling of uncertainty as to whether the war should have been waged at all.

"Also, unlike France, which is viewed as having forcefully opposed the States, Canada is viewed more as having stayed on sidelines."

© National Post 2003
 
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The Tesseract

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Subsonic Chronic
It's a Sun newspaper. Surprised?

I gotta agree with Viceroy on this one. It sounds like the writer of this beautiful piece of 'journalism' ( :rolleyes: ) came across a couple of total dolts at the airport and thought that they represented a big chunk of the U.S. population.

This is typical Sun trash, not to be taken seriously.



*cough*rickmercertalkingwithamericans*cough*























American beauty, eh
Rick Mercer pulls some Yankee leg
By BILL BRIOUX
Toronto Sun

"Congratulations, Canada, on making Beaver Balls your national dish."

That's just one of the silly salutes heard tomorrow night on Rick Mercer's Talking To Americans (9 p.m. on CBC).

The hour-long special, a mix of classic road hits from This Hour Has 22 Minutes as well as new material, shows just how clueless Americans are when it comes to their neighbours to the Great White North.

Over the past four years, Mercer has travelled all over the United States, quizzing everyone from college students at Columbia and Princeton, to state governors and politicians as lofty as George W. Bush.

The results are always the same: For most Americans, Canada isn't even on the radar.

"Some of the stupidest are (governing) states," Mercer says.

Bush, for example, didn't even blink last fall on the presidential campaign trail when Mercer brought him greetings from "Prime Minister Poutine."

"Every time, usually at the start of every shoot, I'm saying, 'I can't say this. Somebody's going to get me,' " Mercer says. Yet, time and time again, the Yanks fall for the gag, even when Mercer asks them to salute prime minister Tim Horton, sign a petition to legalize insulin or travel across the Peter Mans Bridge.

"I was very honoured," Peter Mansbridge says.

Mercer insists the responses are never set up or faked.

"It would be a hard sell just showing up out of the blue and asking the Republican Governor of Arkansas to come on the show and make an ass of himself," Mercer points out. "Much easier just to tell him our national igloo is melting."

Mercer says the beauty of the gag is that it would never work the other way around.

"If you went to the University of Toronto and said you were bringing greetings from President Stinky MacPharlane, it wouldn't work. We all know who their president is."

Some fans of The Tonight Show might argue that Americans are just as clueless about their own politics. Jay Leno's "Jay Walking" segments are always drawing blanks from students asked to name somebody as obvious as the current Vice President.

"With Leno, they know him and they know they're having fun with a comedian," he says. "People in the United States don't know who I am; they think I'm a newsman."

More and more people are getting wise to Mercer. After he ambushed Bush last fall, the Gore team was waiting to make sure he didn't pick off their man.

Mercer also failed to goon the Governor of California. "An official asked us straight up, 'Are you the same people who asked George Bush if your prime minister was named after french fries? Get out before we have the state trooper throw you out.'
 
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