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LOST Again AirAsia flight QZ8501

Bernnie Federko

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'An AirAsia flight from Indonesia's Surabaya to Singapore has lost contact with air traffic control, the airline and Indonesian authorities have confirmed.

Transport ministry official Hadi Mustofa said flight QZ8501 lost contact with the Jakarta air traffic control tower at 6:17am local time (9:17am AEDT).

The official said the aircraft is an Airbus 320-200 with 155 people on board and the plane had asked for an unusual route before it lost contact.'

As it happened: AirAsia flight QZ8501 from Indonesia to Singapore loses contact with air traffic control; search halted for day - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Bernnie Federko

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OK, that's weird. 2 planes now. Has a vortex to another dimension appeared in Asia?

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AirAsia Flight QZ8501: Plane spots objects in sea within search area
Vessels currently heading to site to try to confirm sighting
Thomson Reuters

More news as it continues to break...
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Bernnie Federko

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Authorities have been careful to stress that scenario for the missing AirAsia plane is drastically different from that of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, which went missing in March and has yet to be found.

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said "it would be a big mistake to equate what has happened here with MH370," telling Sydney's Radio 2GB that MH370 was "one of the great mysteries of our time."

The area of the Java Sea where the AirAsia plane went missing is typically 40 to 50 meters (130 to 164 feet) deep — compared with the 4,000 meter-plus depths complicating the MH370 search, U.K.-based oceanographer Dr. Simon Boxall told NBC News.

"Until today, we have never lost a life"

"It's relatively shallow water and it's close to land so they can use helicopters, rather than spending hours just getting to the search area," said Boxhall, who is based at at the University of Southampton. "It's not going to be easy, but it is feasible within a relatively short amount of time."

The Airbus A320-200, which was travelling from Surabaya to Singapore, had 155 passengers as well as two pilots and five crew members on board. Most of the passengers are Indonesian. Three people on board are from South Korea, and one person each is from Singapore, Malaysia, Britain and France. Seventeen passengers are children, and one is an infant, the airline said.

Relatives of many of the passengers were flocking to the Singapore Changi Airport, where the missing plane was supposed to arrive, for updates.

AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes has called the disappearance "a nightmare." He told reporters that his thoughts are with those who have loved ones on board.

"Until today, we have never lost a life," Fernandes told reporters in Jakarta airport, according to the AP. "But I think that any airline CEO who says he can guarantee that his airline is 100 percent safe, is not accurate."

The plane was supposed to arrive at Changi at 8:30 a.m. Singapore time (7:30 p.m. ET Saturday). The pilot had asked for permission to climb from 32,000 feet to 38,000 feet to avoid clouds, said Joko Muryo Atmodjo, air transportation director at Indonesia's transport ministry, according to Reuters. Permission was not granted.

— Cassandra Vinograd, The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

Elisha Fieldstadt is a staff writer for NBC News. She started this role in January of 2014.

Missing AirAsia Flight Likely on 'Bottom of the Sea,' Search Official Says - NBC News


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Yeah if that were the case that plane would have crashed/landed on the same island as MH370. Seriously they had better find that plane otherwise there will be tons of stories governments would rather not deal with. Air Asia was a great flight when I took it - think Southwest prices and cheaper but Westjet service, but not as good as AC.
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Bernnie Federko

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Divers and an unmanned underwater vehicle spotted the tail of the missing AirAsia plane in the Java Sea on Wednesday, the first confirmed sighting of any major wreckage 11 days after Flight 8501 disappeared with 162 people on board, an official said.

Powerful currents and murky water continue to hinder the operation, but searchers managed to get a photograph of the debris after it was detected by an Indonesian survey ship, National Search and Rescue chief Henry Bambang Soelistyo told reporters. One released image appears to show an upside down "A" painted on a piece of
The find is particularly important because the all-important cockpit voice and flight data recorders, or black boxes, are located in the aircraft's tail. Smaller pieces of the plane, such as seats and an emergency door, had previously been collected from the surface.

"Today we successfully discovered the part of the plane that became the main aim since yesterday," Soelistyo said. "I can ensure that this is part of the tail with the AirAsia mark on it."

Another body located Wednesday

He stressed the top priority remains recovering more bodies along with the black boxes. So far, 40 corpses have been found, including an additional one announced Wednesday, but time is running out.

At two weeks, most corpses will sink, said Anton Castilani, head of the country's disaster identification victim unit, and there are already signs of serious decomposition. Officials are hopeful many of the more than 120 bodies still unaccounted for will be found entombed in the fuselage.

The Airbus A320 went down Dec. 28, halfway through a two-hour flight between Indonesia's second-largest city of Indonesia and Singapore, killing everyone on board. It is not clear what caused the crash, but bad weather is believed to be a contributing factor.

Just before losing contact, the pilot told air traffic control he was approaching threatening clouds, but was denied permission to climb to a higher altitude because of heavy air traffic. No distress signal was issued.

Finding the black boxes will be key to the investigation. They provide essential information including the plane's vertical and horizontal speeds along with engine temperature and final conversations between the captain and co-pilot. The ping-emitting beacons still have about 20 days before their batteries go dead, but high surf had prevented the deployment of ships that drag "ping" locators.

No visual confirmation of other plane parts

Sonar-equipped ships involved in the massive international hunt have also identified what they believe to be the fuselage of the plane. Several other big chunks have been found though no visual confirmation has been received yet.

The search area for bodies and debris was expanded this week to allow for the strong currents that have been pushing debris around, said Indonesian search and rescue operation coordinator Tatang Zainudin.

In addition to heavy rain and wind, the monsoon weather has turned the Java Sea into a slush bowl.

But in some ways, it is one of the best places to look for a missing plane, especially when compared to the extreme depths of the Indian Ocean where searchers continue to hunt for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which disappeared last March with 239 people aboard.

The water at the Indonesia site is shallow, but this is the worst time of the year for a recovery operation to take place due to seasonal rains that have created choppy seas and blinding mud and silt from river runoff.

"Because the Java Sea is such an enclosed basin, and there's not really big currents passing through it, everything just stays there for quite a while and the waves make it so that the sediment doesn't slowly just sink to the bottom," said Erik van Sebille, an oceanographer at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia. "It continuously keeps churning it up."

He said the conditions also make it particularly dangerous for divers because the water is dark and murky, making it easy for them to cut themselves on jagged wreckage or even become snared and trapped. During the dry season, he added, it would likely be easy to see the plane underwater from the sky.

Bernnie Federko

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The Indonesian navy has retrieved from the seabed the tail of the AirAsia plane that crashed two weeks ago.
Divers used an inflatable device to pull the tail to the sea's surface.
They are also searching for the plane's "black box" flight recorders, which officials believe have been separated from the tail section.
QZ8501 disappeared from radar in bad weather on 28 December with 162 people on board. It was flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore.
Forty-eight bodies have been retrieved so far. Search teams believe most of the remains may still be inside the fuselage of the plane, which has yet to be found.
On Friday, pings were detected in the Java Sea near where the tail was found. Officials said they could have come from the plane's "black box" flight recorders.
Crucial clues
The rear part of the Airbus A320-200 was spotted on Wednesday by an unmanned underwater vehicle at a depth of about 30m (100ft).
It was upside down and partially buried about 30km (20 miles) from the point of last contact with the plane, off the coast of Borneo, authorities said.
Search teams have been pulling bodies and wreckage from the sea but progress has been slow due to high waves and stormy weather.
The cause of the crash is unknown but the plane had encountered bad weather and asked for a flight path change before communication was lost.
The "black box" flight data recorders are usually housed inside the rear part of the plane.
They are designed to survive a crash and being submerged in water, and contain underwater locator beacons which emit the so-called "pings" for at least 30 days.
Finding them has been one of the top priorities for search teams as they provide crucial clues from the last moments of the flight before it came down.


AirAsia QZ8501: Plane tail lifted from seabed - BBC News
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Official: AirAsia Flight 8501 black boxes found
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Search teams believe they have found the missing black boxes of AirAsia Flight 8501. Divers are expected to recover them on Monday. Officials are hopeful the boxes will provide answers as to why the plane crashed into the Java Sea in December.

Bernnie Federko

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The flight data recorder of AirAsia flight 8501 has been retrieved from the Java Sea. Authorities say the cockpit voice recorder from the passenger jet that crashed on December 28 has also been located.

Navy divers on Monday brought to the surface the flight data recorder of the Indonesia AirAsia flight, two weeks after it crashed in the Java Sea.

The head of Indonesia’s search and rescue agency, Henry Bambang Soelistyo, said the data and voice recorders that compose the so-called black box had become separated.

Soelistyo explained to reporters in Jakarta that divers of a joint search and rescue team found and lifted part of the black box containing the flight data recorder. The cockpit voice recorder, he added, was not brought to the surface, but its location has been identified.

It is hoped that the information contained on the two recorders will help investigators determine why the Airbus A320 plunged into the sea less than halfway into its two-hour flight from Surabaya to Singapore.

All 162 people on board died. So far, fewer than 50 bodies have been retrieved. Search officials say they expect more bodies will be found in the submerged fuselage of the plane which is in the sea’s relatively shallow waters.

Indonesia’s transport ministry has suspended AirAsia’s license for the Surabaya-Singapore route, for which it did not have permission to fly on that ill-fated Sunday. But the ministry said this had no bearing on the crash of Flight 8501, which is believed to have encountered a severe storm.

Indonesia’s president, Joko Widodo, said the crash has brought to light widespread problems with air travel management in the country, the world’s fourth largest, which sprawls across an archipelago composed of thousands of islands.

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JAKARTA (Reuters) - Divers retrieved the cockpit voice recorder from the wreck of an AirAsia passenger jet on Tuesday, an Indonesian investigator told Reuters, a key step towards determining the cause of the crash that killed 162 people.

Indonesia AirAsia's Flight QZ8501 lost contact with air traffic control in bad weather on Dec. 28, less than halfway into a two-hour flight from Indonesia's second-biggest city of Surabaya to Singapore. There were no survivors.

The cockpit voice recorder, which retains the last two hours of conversation between the pilots and with air traffic controllers, was found close to where the flight data recorder was recovered from the bottom of the Java Sea on Monday.

When asked if the so-called black box was found, Santoso Sayogo, an investigator at the National Transportation Safety Committee, told Reuters: "We can confirm".

Together the black boxes, which are actually orange, contain a wealth of data that will be crucial for investigators piecing together the sequence of events that led to the Airbus A320-200 plunging into the sea.

The cockpit voice recorder was on board an Indonesian navy vessel and expected to be sent to the capital, Jakarta, for analysis, MetroTV said, quoting a transport official.


Investigators may need up to a month to get a complete reading of the data.

The AirAsia group's first fatal accident took place more than two weeks ago, but wind, high waves and strong currents have slowed efforts to recover bodies and wreckage from the shallow waters off Borneo island.

Dozens of Indonesian navy divers took advantage of calmer weather this week to retrieve the black boxes and now hope to find the fuselage of the Airbus.

Forty-eight bodies have been plucked from the Java Sea and brought to Surabaya for identification. Searchers believe more bodies will be found in the plane's fuselage.

"Our main task is to find the victims," Fransiskus Bambang Soelistyo, head of the National Search and Rescue Agency, told reporters before heading to Surabaya to meet families of the victims.

"Even if both (black boxes) are found, it doesn't mean that our operation is over."

Relatives of the victims have urged the authorities to make finding the remains of their loved ones the priority.

"Even if the search has to last for a month, we are still hoping to find them," said Lioni, who lost four family members in the plane crash. "If they can find even one (of my family members), we would feel a little bit relieved."

(Additional reporting by Fergus Jensen and Eveline Danubrata in JAKARTA, Kanupriya Kapoor in PANGKALAN BUN, and Fransiska Nangoy in SURABAYA; Writing by Randy Fabi; Editing by Alex Richardson)

Bernnie Federko

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A Singaporean navy ship has found the crashed AirAsia plane's fuselage, a 30-metre-long section with a wing attached, in the Java Sea, authorities said.

Images taken by a remote-controlled vehicle from the ship showed parts of the plane's wing and words on the fuselage, Singapore defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said on his Facebook page. He said Indonesian search officials have been notified so they can begin recovery operations.

The fuselage section that was found is 30 metres (yards) long and 10 meters wide with a height of 3 metres, Indonesia's National Search and Rescue Agency chief Henry Bambang Soelistyo said.

"The fuselage with a wing still attached on it was found in the priority search area and has been confirmed as part of AirAsia plane," Soelistyo said.

He added it was some 3 kilometres from the tail, which was found earlier, and 800 metres from the black boxes, at a depth of about 28 metres.

The plane carrying 162 people disappeared from radar on Dec. 28 less than halfway into a two-hour flight from Surabaya, Indonesia, to Singapore.

Many of the victims are believed to be entombed in the main section of the aircraft's cabin.

Also Wednesday, fishermen found two bodies along with plane seats and debris off the coast off South Kalimantan, bringing to 50 the total of bodies recovered so far.

President Joko Widodo expressed happiness for the discovery, saying that divers would examine the fuselage today.

The plane's "black boxes" -- the flight data recorder and cockpit flight recorder -- were retrieved on Monday and Tuesday and will be key to learning what caused the plane to crash. Bad weather is a suspected factor.

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