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Looks Like I Better Get My Eyes Checked: Ontario Budget News

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by Bernnie Federko, May 18, 2004.

  1. SJN

    SJN TRIBE Member

    why anyone is still wasting their time on you is a mystery to me
  2. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    I'm not the one running low on material, I staked my position in this thead and successfully defended it (unlike you). Go get yourself some material and come check me out later.
  3. 416

    416 TRIBE Member

    I see I'm going to have to spell this one out for you.

    Adrian's information is incorrect. His figure of the total amount of the CHST transfer payment from the federal government of Canada of $7,537 billion is dishonest and misleading. At the request of various provincial leaders, the CHST transfer payment (which used to have a different name, but let's just call it the CHST) has been split into two portions. Half cash, half tax points. Adrian's figure excludes the tax point portion of the payement.
  4. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    You don't have to spell that out for me, because I agreed with you on it. Then you went out to frame me and I wasn't having it.
  5. 416

    416 TRIBE Member

    I disagree. You said...

    You also said...

    Again, I disagree. I think you are having it.
  6. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    I don't think so. You didn't respond to Adrian's post adequately when he posted the graph, and then you came after me for some reason and I ain't having it. Either you're out of material, or you need a clue.
  7. 416

    416 TRIBE Member

    Oh yes you are having it you little skank.
  8. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    You must be mistaken, I'm not your mother.
  9. Evil Dynovac

    Evil Dynovac TRIBE Member

    416 HA! You are a fucking little hobgoblin a troll today, aren't you? Three pissing matches in one thread! When one person loses interest you're clawing at someone else.

    Keep the faith, dandilion. Soon you will be the biggest man on the net.
  10. 416

    416 TRIBE Member

    Ya, it was a very productive day.

    I even got that pantload Bernnie over here resorting to mom jokes.
  11. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Who said anything about 'jokes'?
  12. 416

    416 TRIBE Member

  13. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Oh, the sarcasm. THE SARCASM!

    Thanks for letting me finger you today. I enjoyed watching you back peddle.
  14. kate

    kate TRIBE Member

    He's way smarter than all'ya'll.

    I haven't even read the thread and I know that much-but I do especially like when he exposes that shit with the use of quotes.

    Hi Jer :cool:
  15. 416

    416 TRIBE Member

    Haha. Hey Kate.
  16. AdRiaN

    AdRiaN TRIBE Member

    You will notice the link that Vote Quimby posted only covers the period from 2001-02 to present. Let's take a look at some prior years (keeping in mind these are total CHST amounts including tax points and cash payments to all provinces):

    1996-97 = $26.9 billion
    1997-98 = $25.8 billion
    1998-99 = $26.7 billion
    1999-00 = $29.4 billion
    2000-01 = $30.8 billion

    Even with tax points, the increase is quite meagre at $2.9 billion. Ontario represents roughly 40% of the total, so that's $1.16 billion in 4 years compared to an increase in provincial health care spending of over $5 billion during the same period.

    The whole point of the health care funding arrangement in 1977, including the transfer of tax points, was to ensure stable and predictable funding for the provinces. Cash payments were originally escalated by the rate of growth in the economy and the federal government could not unilaterally modify the funding formula. You might want to read the following link to get some insight into how the federal government has skipped out on its responsibility to the provinces.

  17. sugar

    sugar TRIBE Member

    Politics in general affect everyone in a real day-to-day manner.

    p.s. Apparently Dalton McGuinty will be at the same golf course as me the day of my company tournament. I'll wave and say hi for all of you.
  18. jason klaps

    jason klaps TRIBE Member

    don't forget to ask him for a $900 Golf Course Premium while you're on the course :)
  19. Puma

    Puma TRIBE Member

    How long will the people take this???? High gas prices, getting fucked buy the insurence company's high taxes. It's better to be on welfare and staying at home without a car..

    The politicians are not doing anything for the people they are just coming up with more creative ways to squeez out more money from the taxpayers. Nothing is new.

    People here in North America are to lazy to protest and their life to much depends on their work and can't even get days off to attend the protest.

    Without strong public protest nothing will change and it will only get worse.
  20. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Here’s what you need to know about Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s first budget

    Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s first budget has fewer cuts than expected, raises spending overall and won’t balance the books for five years. Some highlights:

    • While program spending for health and education will increase slightly, the budget also outlines cuts: The Ministry of Children’s and Social Services - which includes income assistance and the autism program - will see $1-billion in cuts by 2021-22.
    • The budget revealed significant funding changes for universities and colleges: The government is planning to tie more than half to performance outcomes, though it has not stated what those metrics would be.
    • There are new regulations for alcohol consumption: extending service hours to start at 9 a.m.; allowing bars to advertise “happy hour” discounts and legalizing tailgate parties.
    • Other budget item include a new child care tax credit and a dental care program for low-income seniors.
  21. ndrwrld

    ndrwrld TRIBE Member

    “If you look through this budget, it mentions booze and gambling 63 times. It mentions climate change 15 times and it mentions poverty zero times.”
  22. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    “If you look through this thread, it mentions booze and gambling *@ times. It mentions climate change *@ times and it mentions poverty *@range times.”
  23. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  24. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Will be interesting to see whether the blue crew are able to balance the budget before the next election.

    Where will they widen the tax base (raise taxes?)
    Where will the "find efficiencies"?
  25. kyfe

    kyfe TRIBE Member

    they already said they won't

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