<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ditto Much:
Posting reasons why they aren't the same, is an endless discussion. There are just so many things that I feel have cheapened the whole thing. There are so many reasons I don't feelthe scene is hip anymore its silly.
But the Dj's weren't meant to be the superstars. It was all about the fans and it was all about the people dancing in front of the satge, not about who was on the stage. The environments were designed to envelop the senses and the participants, now they point to a focal the stage. The parties stopped being about the partiers we were what was important, not where the DJ came from.
Entertaining for any party invovles many different things. You don't make just appetizers and play no music. You don't just crank up the music as loud as possible and expect the audiance to respond. The expectations have gone up, everyone and there brother has thrown a rave. Any club that has a dance floor has had ravers dance on it.
Couple of weeks ago Pest compared our scene to a sausage party. The excitiment that was partying all night when everyone else was going to bed is over. The orginality is a 4/4 beat with predicatable builds. There will still be great parties every now and then. There will still be great sets, but you can't keep going to the same places that are playing the same music they were playing 5 years ago and expect them to be fresh.
In short I've heard that track before, I've danced to that set before, I've stood in the line before, I've tasted that drink before. How can you expect me to not be bored if your not providing me with anything. </font>
Check out smaller parties, check out local dj's. These are the ppl putting effort into events and running them with little money, I know countless promoters that throw parties and always lose money. Why? cause they can't compete with the big boys. But you actually have the chance to be part of something @ the grassroots level, thats what it was about for me, being part of something special, it didn't matter who was playing, how much i had to drink or how many hot girls were there, it just mattered that i was with friends enjoying a common interest.
You say dj's shouldn't be about being a star, i agree. djing is about the love of the music and lovin it when the crowd gets off. You put this kind of dj with this kind of crowd and you are bound to get more memorable experiences because it's your's, its more personal it's more direct.
Right now parting is about as exciting as buying a new pair of shoes. Promoters bring in who they know will draw Recycled talent, if that means it costs more to make more thats fine cause you'll pay for it in the price of the ticket- it's a business transaction.
I understand i am being very general and this is in no way directed @ Steve& Wayne or their larger scale parties cause i know they are in it for the love of music.
I think peoples mantality has to change, people have to stop thinking that they have to pay a fortune to be @ a good party, that they have to see a $10,000+ Dj in order to hear a good set.
Partiers helped build the electronic music scene now they seem to have forgotten where it evolved from, that little room @ 23 hop, that space on cherry st, and other spaces that have supported this music from day one.
Since its a business everyone gauges the promoter, and because more money is allocated to various areas, less money is spent on the party. Most of it covers the overhead for venue, paramedics, police, permits, sound, riders etc etc etc.
parites have to go back underground to become more personal and bring back the VIBE!
Kyfe
