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I'll tell ya why Winnipeg is scarier...

acheron

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FedEx plane crashes in downtown Winnipeg
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1190068

Oct 6, 2005 — WINNIPEG, Manitoba (Reuters) - A small aircraft carrying cargo for FedEx Corp. — including six vials of research viruses — crashed in downtown Winnipeg on Thursday, killing its pilot, the only person on board, but sparing injury on the ground.

The Cessna 208 crashed on railway tracks in the western Canadian city just before 6 a.m. (1100 GMT), leaving only a "twisted heap" of wreckage behind, local radio said.

The crash occurred close to a Masonic Lodge at the intersection of several major streets that is known locally as "Confusion Corner."

The crash incinerated all cargo aboard the plane, including four frozen 0.5 milliliter (0.015 fluid ounce) vials of herpes virus and two of influenza, a spokeswoman for FedEx Canada said.

The viruses were not hazardous, Karen Cooper said, although they were packaged and handled as dangerous goods.

There was no danger to the public from the viruses, she said.

"It's not unusual for FedEx to send specimens, because this is what we're trained to do," Cooper said. "We have special packaging and we're licensed to transport dangerous materials."

The plane, which was on its way to Thunder Bay, Ontario, from Winnipeg, was operated and maintained by FedEx subcontractor Morningstar Air Express Inc., Cooper said.

Federal aviation inspectors and police have not yet determined the cause of the crash, she said.

Winnipeg was hit by an unusually early and heavy snowfall on Wednesday.

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as was said on Fark, check back with Winnipeg 28 days later!
 

annec

TRIBE Member
You're worried about herpes, when influenza can kill? 50 million in the Spanish flu outbreak/pandemic--killed more in 1918 than the total for WW1
 

Mephisto

TRIBE Member
she was a good pilot who knew her shit cold and anyone who's flown that model of airplane has no doubt as to what happened. always saddening to hear of another set of wings being clipped.

rip and godspeed
 

Bumbaclat

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Mephisto
she was a good pilot who knew her shit cold and anyone who's flown that model of airplane has no doubt as to what happened. always saddening to hear of another set of wings being clipped.
can you elaborate please?
 

Mephisto

TRIBE Member
the caravan (aka the 4 tonne spamcan) is notoriously bad in icing conditions even though it's certified in it. ice forms everywhere...i'm talking on the wings, tail, landing gear, wing struts, cargo pod, on your armpit hair and donor card in your wallet. it's equipped with de-icing equipment (heated blades, inflating boots, etc) but the airframe packs on ice so quick you're never able to shed it all and you lose airspeed everytime you cycle the equipment. it gets to the point when you're carrying so much of that shit that you can have the power pinned and can't do anything but ride it down in a controlled descent into warmer air at 700feet/min.

put it this way- for most airplanes, there's a wk to 2wk course to learn the systems and how to fly it in the simulator. for this airplane you do an extra, dedicated weekend course on top of that to find out what to do with it in ice. basically the wing stops flying and its compounded by the weight of the buildup. but the worst case is if you haven't been paying attention since it builds up on the tail twice as fast which can get you into the situation where you lose pitch control and the tail stops flying before the wings. that's the point you call for the "sock and toes check" which is- "pull up your socks and point your toes" because you're going in
 

Mephisto

TRIBE Member
same thing happened to the van that packed er in off of pelee island two years ago

this is its true natural habitat, not the frozen winter:
 

Bumbaclat

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Mephisto
the caravan (aka the 4 tonne spamcan) is notoriously bad in icing conditions even though it's certified in it. ice forms everywhere...i'm talking on the wings, tail, landing gear, wing struts, cargo pod, on your armpit hair and donor card in your wallet. it's equipped with de-icing equipment (heated blades, inflating boots, etc) but the airframe packs on ice so quick you're never able to shed it all and you lose airspeed everytime you cycle the equipment. it gets to the point when you're carrying so much of that shit that you can have the power pinned and can't do anything but ride it down in a controlled descent into warmer air at 700feet/min.

put it this way- for most airplanes, there's a wk to 2wk course to learn the systems and how to fly it in the simulator. for this airplane you do an extra, dedicated weekend course on top of that to find out what to do with it in ice. basically the wing stops flying and its compounded by the weight of the buildup. but the worst case is if you haven't been paying attention since it builds up on the tail twice as fast which can get you into the situation where you lose pitch control and the tail stops flying before the wings. that's the point you call for the "sock and toes check" which is- "pull up your socks and point your toes" because you're going in
thank you
 

Mephisto

TRIBE Member
c/o ywg sun-
Pilot Hailed as Hero
I'm proud of her: sister-in-law

A pilot killed in a dramatic plane crash outside Osborne Village died doing what she loved, her sister-in-law said yesterday.

"She wanted to fly, and that was the best job she could ever have," said Anna Chase last night from her Geary, N.B., home.

Nancy Chase Allan, 49, of Moncton, died early yesterday morning after her single engine Cessna 208B crashed on a railway track.

Mother of two

Chase Allan, a five-year veteran of Morningstar Air Express, used to live in Winnipeg, where she was an instructor at Perimeter Aviation.

Allan said Chase Allan, a divorced mother of two grown children, had been flying for about seven years after spending nearly 20 years working as a legal secretary.

"I guess she has always had a love of wanting to fly and she finally got gutsy enough to quit her job and took it upon herself to take her training," Allan said. "I'm very proud of her."

The Cessna was owned by Morningstar and contracted by Federal Express. Flags at FedEx's Sargent Avenue office were flying at half-staff yesterday. Don Boettcher, Morningstar's director of operations, said the airline will help grieving family members however it can and make sure they have access to required counselling resources.

He hailed Chase Allan as a hero for narrowly avoiding nearby roadways, homes and businesses during her troubled descent.

"I would say that's extremely commendable on her part," said Boettcher. "From the time she came out of the cloud layer ... to when she landed, she wouldn't have had much time.

"But, like all pilots, she would have wanted to avoid areas where there would be people. That's a natural instinct for most pilots, to spare as many lives as possible."

Chase said her sister-in-law would have done anything to avoid hurting anyone else.

"If there was any possible way she would have done that," Chase said. "It's one thing losing her own life, but she would never have wanted to hurt anyone else."

When Chase Allan wasn't flying she was selling real estate in Moncton, Chase said.

For the past several months, Chase Alan drove two hours every weekend to be with her ailing mother in Geary, N.B., Allan said.

"She would be there every Saturday by 11 in the morning. Her mom could set her watch by it. That was her day to be with her mom. "She was a beautiful person."
 

kline

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by basketballjones
winterpeg sucks
went to private school just outside of winterpeg..it is flat, barren and or desolate...
you should go to selkirk... at least you get that massive, yet classy animated catfish statue to greet you on your way through town.

that's where my grandparents live: the catfish capital of the world :rolleyes:

love the summers, will never EVAR visit in the winter again.
 
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