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I owe an apology to Ditto Much

Discussion in 'Politics (deprecated)' started by Boss Hog, Aug 28, 2003.

  1. Boss Hog

    Boss Hog TRIBE Member

    I am sorry for calling you dumb as a bag of hammers. You're really not. You're just silly.

    It's actually Deep_Groove who's dumb as a bag of hammers.

  2. Ditto Much

    Ditto Much TRIBE Member


    But I'm well aware that I'm not stupid and don't need you to clarify the issue.
  3. Boss Hog

    Boss Hog TRIBE Member

    Good. I couldn't sleep last night, thinking you were worried about it and all.
  4. OTIS

    OTIS TRIBE Member

    I also apologize for calling him a fathead, you're head aint really fat, it's just big bownded. ;)

    But Deep_Noob, now there's a fathead!
  5. Ditto Much

    Ditto Much TRIBE Member

    thanks (i think)

    I'm just a little sensitive on the whole weight thing.

    Whats with all the loving feelings guys?
  6. OTIS

    OTIS TRIBE Member

    When I call someone a fathead, it's not meant to be taken in a literal way. Especially on da innarweb.

    P.S. Boss Hog wants to make out with you.
  7. AdRiaN

    AdRiaN TRIBE Member

    Someone forgot to add, "BRT", to the title of this thread. :p
  8. OTIS

    OTIS TRIBE Member

    BossHog's Repentance Thread?
  9. Boss Hog

    Boss Hog TRIBE Member

    I've developed a fetish for the woody woodpecker. (replace "girl" with "Ditto Much").
  10. Boss Hog

    Boss Hog TRIBE Member

    Adrian I haven't called you any names but if I did I wouldn't be sorry.

  11. ~atp~

    ~atp~ TRIBE Member

    This thread is funny.

    Funny, I tell you.
  12. Ditto Much

    Ditto Much TRIBE Member

    ahh thanks guys

    at 6pm I will be appearing at the Eaton Centre when you can all form a line and kiss my ass one after another. I hear KlubmastaWill will be the first in line on reservation.
  13. Boss Hog

    Boss Hog TRIBE Member

    awesome. I won't tap you too hard either.
  14. man_slut

    man_slut TRIBE Member

    Teeeeheheheheheheheheeee... *Homer laughing like little schoolgirl*
  15. man_slut

    man_slut TRIBE Member

    Political Opinion, Not Pathology

    By Arie W. Kruglanski and John T. Jost
    Thursday, August 28, 2003; Page A27

    In the May issue of Psychological Bulletin, we published a review that statistically summarizes dozens of studies conducted over 50 years dealing with psychological differences associated with left- vs. right-wing thinking. Based on this literature, we found that the likelihood of adopting conservative rather than liberal political opinions is significantly correlated, among other psychological dimensions, with a sense of societal instability, fear of death, intolerance of ambiguity, need for closure, lower cognitive complexity and a sense of threat.

    Apparently without reading our original articles or attempting to contact any of us, many commentators and syndicated columnists, including Ann Coulter and Cal Thomas -- George Will [op-ed, Aug. 10] apparently read but misunderstood our work) -- assumed that such a psychological analysis of ideology entails a judgment that conservatism must be abnormal, pathological or even the result of mental illness. The British media seem to have settled on the highly stigmatized and equally inaccurate term "neuroses." All of this reflects a crude and outdated perception of psychological research.

    Historically, some of the better known psychological analyses of right-wing thinking, especially the famous Adorno et al. volume on "The Authoritarian Personality" (1950), assumed that anti-Semitism and racial intolerance were consequences of faulty parenting styles and traumatic childhood experiences. The German psychologist Erich Jantsch in 1938 had described liberalism as morbid. We part ways with these and other theories based on a "medical model" that ranks political orientations on dimensions of abnormality. All the variables we have reviewed pertain to normal cognitive and motivational functioning. We would argue that all beliefs have a partial basis in one's needs, fears and desires, including beliefs that form one's political ideology. Our research has identified several factors that seem to underlie the propensity to find conservative vs. liberal thought systems appealing.

    It's wrong to conclude that our results provide only bad news for conservatives. True, we find some support for the traditional "rigidity-of-the-right" hypothesis, but it is also true that liberals could be characterized on the basis of our overall profile as relatively disorganized, indecisive and perhaps overly drawn to ambiguity -- all of which may be liabilities in mass politics and other public and professional domains. Because we assume that all beliefs (ideological, scientific and otherwise) are partially (but never completely) determined by one's needs, fears and desires, we see nothing pathological about this process. It is simply part of what it means to be human. Our "trade-off" model of human psychology assumes that any trait or motivation has potential advantages and disadvantages, depending on the situation. A heightened sensitivity to threat and uncertainty is by no means maladaptive in all contexts. Even closed-mindedness may be useful, provided one tends to have a closed mind about appropriate values and accurate opinions; a reluctance to abandon one's prior convictions in favor of new fads can be a good thing. The important task for social scientists is to identify the conditions under which each of these cognitive and motivational styles is beneficial, rather than touting one or the other as inherently and invariably superior.

    Our findings highlight the importance of situations and historical factors that can produce political shifts by affecting psychological needs pertaining to uncertainty and threat. The need to achieve closure and to resolve ambiguity, for example, are heightened under conditions of destabilizing uncertainty (for example, with the outbreak of terrorism, economic turmoil or political instability). Thus our research is best understood as addressing the cognitive and motivational bases of conservatism (and liberalism) rather than the personalities of conservatives (and liberals).

    We readily acknowledge that identifying the motivational underpinnings of a belief system does not constitute a valid argument in a political debate any more than it does in scientific debates. What counts is the cogency of the political arguments and the degree to which they fit with independently verifiable facts and reasonable assumptions. When the dust settles on the current debate, we hope that these important messages will be seen as the real focus of our research.

    Arie W. Kruglanski is distinguished university professor of psychology at the University of Maryland. John T. Jost is an associate professor in Stanford's Graduate School of Business. This article was written in collaboration with Jack Glaser and Frank J. Sulloway, both of the University of California at Berkeley.

    © 2003 The Washington Post Company
  16. Ditto Much

    Ditto Much TRIBE Member

    To bad the first paragraph of that was going pretty well, then it says nothing for the next 8
  17. Subsonic Chronic

    Subsonic Chronic TRIBE Member

    ahahaha.... when I tried to access the link to the sub genius website from work, I get a message that the site is blocked because it falls under the category "Non-Traditional Religions and Occult and Folklore"

  18. ~atp~

    ~atp~ TRIBE Member

    my god, where do you work??? lol.
  19. Ditto Much

    Ditto Much TRIBE Member

    hey now!!!

    This is supposed to be a thread about apologizing to me and kissing my ass, less debate more puckers you fuckers.
  20. AdRiaN

    AdRiaN TRIBE Member

    What are you trying to say? The article is not very clear, and does not draw any concrete conclusions. Are you trying to start something with me? What is this world coming to?!

  21. Ditto Much

    Ditto Much TRIBE Member

    I don't know but this is neither an appology to me nore a puckering of the lips to kiss my ass!

    get it out of here mister!!
  22. Boss Hog

    Boss Hog TRIBE Member

    "Tap tap tap!"

  23. ~atp~

    ~atp~ TRIBE Member

    Nice x. Is that a picture of Ditto's asshole, to which you will be sealing your lips?
  24. luvslife

    luvslife TRIBE Member

    I'm sorry for all you losers!:p
  25. Boss Hog

    Boss Hog TRIBE Member

    eat a sphincter.

    (not sorry for saying that! :p)

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