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I need to learn about NAFTA ASAP

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by Skipper, Apr 29, 2003.

  1. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  2. alexd

    alexd Administrator Staff Member

    The new import limits for Canada will be C$150 for customs duties and C$40 for taxes for stuff bought in the US on Amazon for example. Better than it was but still not what it could be.
     
  3. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Its a shittier deal for us but we did a good job of limiting the shit we had to take.

    As soon as Trump started down this path it was essentially Canada's job to limit the pain and price exacted from us.

    It looks like we did that.

    But the tariffs not being resolved are actually a big threat to our trade relations - we are hoping that Trump doesn't put on new ones and takes the steel tariffs away but none of that is guaranteed, just less likely that we have a tariff war with this alignment under our belts.

    This threat of "we could get fucked at anytime from unilateral duties+tariffs" has been a Canadian problem for over a century - it was recent decades only that gave us some shelter from this under CUFTA/NAFTA - but feels like we are entering a time when the US will choose to bully us and others with tariffs whenever its politically convenient for them again.
     
  4. alexd

    alexd Administrator Staff Member

    This won't come into effect for years though, right?
     
  5. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    It'll be all of 2019 while this works its way through various approvals down south... Expect lots of media coverage
     
  6. SneakyPete

    SneakyPete TRIBE Member

    What was the limit before for duties? I know it was $20 for tax but was that the limit for duties as well?
     
  7. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    So far NDP, as well as the Dairy Farmers are mad ...

     
  8. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  9. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    There's an entire thread about how Trudeau doesn't care about the average Canadian worker.
     
  10. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    Trump mentioned this NAFTA contains "digital copyright" protections... anyone see more about this anywhere else?
     
  11. alexd

    alexd Administrator Staff Member

    Yes, but enforcement was spotty.
     
  12. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    What's your opinion about the trade deal?
     
  13. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    Details are still trickling in but I've seen the commentary from the NYTimes, which noted that Trudeau and Freeland "had been put in tricky positions..." and quoted a retired bureaucrat who said "They are dealing with an unprecedented situation, with a president who is not rational or consistent in his approach, who disregards facts and who does not tell the truth.”

    The presser is very interesting. A reporter has asked if the relationship between Trump and Trudeau has mattered: "he felt committed to his people"

     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2018
  14. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    So, the answer is No, you don't have an opinion...
     
  15. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Hi I'm gonna run for the leadership after Scheer is dispatched next year!

     
  16. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    We'll all get to know the new NAFTA soon. However, the issue whether Trump is racist is firmly decided here: (starting from 1h2m mark)

     
  17. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Another signpost on that racist road:

     
  18. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    You can say 'I don't have an opinion yet' or 'I don't know', it's okay.
     
  19. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    When you say "We", who are you entitled to speak on behalf of? You and ???

    Shit like that is weak as fuck.
     
  20. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  21. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Learned today that Supply Management farmers amount to 15% of actual farmers, yet this group actually controls the prices for the entire group. It's a full on cartel!
     
  22. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Language is fun!
     
  23. ndrwrld

    ndrwrld TRIBE Member

    Let's see what happens to California, AND Canada regarding Net neutrality...
     
  24. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  25. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    We've obtained more details. This "china/non-market" clause seems odd - an exclusive trade pact?
     

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