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basilisk

TRIBE Member
Alright, I guess I'm getting into this thing... opened a second account so I can differentiate professional/industry stuff (that a lot of people aren't interested in) from the inane chit-chat about life and what I'm having for dinner and stuff like that: http://twitter.com/x3nomik
 

fear_of_fours

TRIBE Member
im surprised how many tribers have the twitter... even Alex D??

bass invader do you actually use it?

i'm so confused. what is the point of this thing
 

AshG

Member
but the retention rate is only 40%, from any given month to another.

quite apart from it functioning as yet another e-social time-wasting endeavour, i wonder about its longevity and whether its really worth getting into.
 
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basilisk

TRIBE Member
Soju in disguise with another irrelevant trolling attempt or did you just make that up on the spot? I don't get it.

but the retention rate is only 40%, from any given month to another.

quite apart from it functioning as yet another e-social time-wasting endeavour, i wonder about its longevity and whether its really worth getting into.

I also wonder. And whereas I could say 80% of the people I know are on Facebook, barely anyone I know uses Twitter. Still, I'm intent on exploring it to see what the possibilities are (beyond the life coach/social media circle jerk anyway).
 

AshG

Member
hmmm, i guess i'm wary of getting bogged down in yet more eapps that do little except waste my time navigating the structure of them.

i guess its worse with music crap - there's at least a dozen sites and apps i am registered on that almost never use. i don't know how people find the time to invest in these things, esp at the rate of turnover of these apps these days.
 

Rajio

Well-Known TRIBEr
hmmm, i guess i'm wary of getting bogged down in yet more eapps that do little except waste my time navigating the structure of them.

i guess its worse with music crap - there's at least a dozen sites and apps i am registered on that almost never use. i don't know how people find the time to invest in these things, esp at the rate of turnover of these apps these days.

the idea is to use technology to make you more efficient so you can spend more time doing other stuff.
 

Stan

TRIBE Member
LOL @fake_francis (from Left 4 Dead):

Giving a talk on "Leveraging Zombie Crowd Sourcing For Synergy In Enterprise Interactions". I hate corporate buzzwords (but they pay well)
 
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AshG

Member
the idea is to use technology to make you more efficient so you can spend more time doing other stuff.

and yet it so very seldom works that way.

the ubiquitousness of new apps on an almost daily basis prevents a standard platform from emerging and necessitating the adoption of multiple modes of communication and interaction(i'm thinking more of music related apps at the moment - there are new platforms and methods of sharing and communicating literally every week, and new adoptees associated with each.

there is a limit to how much time any one app can demand from any one user, if only because of the number of hours in a day, and so there is an inherent waste of resources spent in simply surveying and evaluating new apps, never mind actually becoming proficient functionally.

the constant and ever faster changing pace of technology requires constantly learning new skills and new standards. learning is not a bad thing, but when the pace is torrid enough, it can impede any real progress besides the increased efficiency of learning itself. not a bad goal, but not exactly what i'm looking for in apps such as this.
 

Rajio

Well-Known TRIBEr
i dont know ash, you're doing it wrong. what can i say? ... apps work together via RSS and open APIs (see friendfeed) , and they synergize. you're not supposed to use EVERY website ever made, but cherry pick what works best for you, and use them in conjunction with eachother. do you try to read every newspaper published in toronto? do you read every search result when you google something?

you feel bogged down, i feel like ive got not only more free time but im better able to take advantage of it. too many newfangled websites got you down? decide what you want out of life, think about what will help you get more of it or get it better, and use websites in order to accomplish that. its not rocket surgery, but if you're getting bogged down, i wouldnt blame 'zomg so much technology' but rather your use of it being, perhaps, clumbsy and ineffectual.

with twitter for instance. i have like 900 followers now. i dont know them. i dont care. i use filters to pay attention to what is of value to me, pile all the stuff that is of marginal interest, send anything urgent to my phone, and ignore anything i don't value at all. resultingly, despite being bogged down with a large follower list (i rereciprocate most), i only really deal with a handfull of people and subjects, all prioritized and filteres so that i dont get 'bogged down'

in short, PEBKAC.
 

zoo

TRIBE Member
you feel bogged down, i feel like ive got not only more free time but im better able to take advantage of it. too many newfangled websites got you down? decide what you want out of life, think about what will help you get more of it or get it better, and use websites in order to accomplish that.

I feel the same way! Let's be friends. Oh wait, we already are! On TRIBE, Flickr, and Twitter! Hurray!
 

Rajio

Well-Known TRIBEr
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AshG

Member
i'm thinking more of the music side of things. its pretty ridiculous the diffusion of apps and sharing methods that are used. there are ALWAYS improvements being made to the way you can do things and how you create, etc. and while you're right, i should focus on what's gonna work best for me, that's a hard thing to do when the very apps you use become redundant within days of learning them.

i'm not exageratting wrt to that. take this lil thing as a superficial example:
just last week some dude came out with a metafilter program of some sort as an add-on to the very popular beatport music downloading site.

2 days later this comes up:
http://www.choicetrax.com

its a an aggregate site for multiple download stores - currently Beatport, Stompy, Traxsource, Primal and junodownload. So doing one search here lets you see what's available at all these different stores. You can listen to all the different sound clips, check prices and formats for each store, view and search all the different DJ charts, transfer tracks from our virtual carts to your actual cart on each download store, all from this one site.

its just one example that comes to mind where the app you might have spent some time and energy with literally became redundant almost immediately becoming proficient at it.

now twitter doesn't fall into the same category, and i know social networking things are stupidly simply to navigate, but its just one more thing that will almost certainly become redundant soon enough anyway.

that said, i've wasted enough time talking about this already to have eliminated any efficiency i might have gained by ignoring it altogether.

then again i've been sufficiently distracted with Blackstreet "attracting honeys like a magnet, giving em eargasms with their mellow accent", for the last little while for none of that to matter anyway.

No Diggity, and certainly, No Doubt.

 
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Astroboy

TRIBE Member
but the retention rate is only 40%, from any given month to another.

quite apart from it functioning as yet another e-social time-wasting endeavour, i wonder about its longevity and whether its really worth getting into.

As has already been discussed, those numbers are BUNK. The Nielsen data is ONLY looking at traffic to the Twitter.com website, it's not taking into account any of the API utilizing applications. Of which, 90% of regular twitterers use once they've been using the service for a while.

Regardless, even if a 40% return rate was ALL they were getting, that's still FAR FAR better than your average internet start up. They're doing just fine, and will continue to grow. I know Twitter has replaced watching the news and reading the vast majority of my RSS feeds. It's so much quicker, more interactive, and provides direct lines of communication that no other service has previously been able to provide in one place.
 

acheron

TRIBE Member
anyone know the twitter account for the North Korean government? Apparently Kim Jong Ill's tweets are the bomb!
 

AshG

Member
As has already been discussed, those numbers are BUNK. The Nielsen data is ONLY looking at traffic to the Twitter.com website, it's not taking into account any of the API utilizing applications. Of which, 90% of regular twitterers use once they've been using the service for a while.

Regardless, even if a 40% return rate was ALL they were getting, that's still FAR FAR better than your average internet start up. They're doing just fine, and will continue to grow. I know Twitter has replaced watching the news and reading the vast majority of my RSS feeds. It's so much quicker, more interactive, and provides direct lines of communication that no other service has previously been able to provide in one place.

apparently despite this flaw the 40% retention rate turns out to be accurate after all, based on the subsequent analysis. just something that came up on a couple sites i saw that were critiquing that stat.

40% might really be better than most start ups, but then most startups quickly become redundant or useless, which was my point/concern. personally, i think twitter has become far too widespread to die anytime soon, but i wonder how long it can last if that 40% retention rate remains. i guess at an "early" adoption phase of its growth, its largely irrelevant.
 
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acheron

TRIBE Member
I wonder about Facebook's retention stats-- Out of the 250+ friends I have on FB only I would venture that around 25 of them are 'active' users - of the rest, maybe another 50 or so register some kind of activity at least once or twice a month, and then the rest are either lurkers or completely inactive.
 
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