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hullabaloo and the venue question

iolarah

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Now, maybe it's just me being difficult and picky...but am I the only one that thinks that Hullabaloo's choice of venue for their 5th anniversary party is dubious at best? I've gone to the Opera House for a lot of raves and a lot of concerts, and it's always overstuffed and way too hot. I remember coming out of there once and steam was rising off of us. Not to say that steaming bodies aren't kind of cool as an aesthetic, but um...where the hell are people supposed to dance?? When I saw the flyer, I was really excited, and I was all set to go---until I saw where it was going to be held. I imagine that there are quite a few nutters out there looking forward to this party, but I don't think I'll be shelling out that much cash so I can be crammed into a teeny space and throwing off negative energy all night. And I bet there will be those who'll say, "small party, tighter vibe", but isn't it kind of exclusionary to say that only a certain number of people can go? The capacity of that place can't be more than 1500--if I'm wrong, I'll eat my bumbleball. Okay, I understand the small party, better vibe equation, and I agree, but why not someplace *bigger* at least? If there is some valid reason for this choice, then please enlighten me, because right now, I'm just annoyed and a little frustrated.
 

air-bag

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by anabolic frolic
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If there was no Opera House there would be no more Hulla's. period. I'm done dealing with mafioso types and dodgy venues. I'm doing everyone a favour by being the only promoter to make their venues public so everyone has a choice to attend or not and not to deceive everyone to make a few extra dollars. Your complaints only erode my motivation to keep throwing events at all, so if you truly care about Hulla you can support what we do or just shut up about it.

Maybe it's time some of you put your money where your mouth is and throw your own events.
 

KiX

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Incase you haven't noticed, their last bunch of parties have been there.

Chris' reasoning is that there's no threat of it being shut down, and the only other options are to have it at a REALLY big place, and they don't have the numbers for it anymore. Or something.

Try www.hulla.info. I'm sure you'll recieve a warmer reply to your questions than you will here with whats sure to be posted under me.

=tina=
 
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iolarah

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yeowch! point made! i've been out of the scene for a while, and so, yep, I guess i got the answer I was looking for in terms of what the story behind the venue is...but still, the question for me remains: is there enough space to dance when Hulla throws a party at the Opera House? please don't verbally kick my ass further, it's a sincere question, and i just want to know what i'm getting myself into if i decide to go.
 

nusty

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just elbow people out of the way. then there is plenty of room to dance.
seriously though, there is room, its just on the sides and up at the top in the not so good to dance areas. watch out for sketchies on the floor, stepping on people is no good. Even if they forgive you for it, its still not nice.

happy hullabaloo.

Dave
 

silver1

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I danced in the crowd for almost the entire headliners set at the last hulla. I had room to dance. I didn't have room to say do crazy liquid dancing or anything but I think you'll be hard pressed to find a party/club that is at capacity that is any different. It's crowded yes but not overcrowded. At almost all of the last 5 hulla's, a fire marshal has come to the event in the evening to check things out in the way of legal capacity. Many people were turned away at the door last time too. The Opera House right now has a very strict capacity limit and the owners stick by it.

Also, I love reading reviews for parties where people say, "Thank you company XYZ for not over-packing the place and giving us tons of room to dance".

Promoter translation -> "Thank you company XYZ for losing tons money and giving us tons of room to dance."
 
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noahmintz

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Just yell at all the candy kids who are really fucked up
They'll get scared pee thier pants and run back to their house of plur

stu
 

AdRiaN

TRIBE Member
Over-crowding

Having "enough room to dance" can be very subjective. If you're in a good mood, and really enjoying the music, you tend to have a much higher tolerance for being bumped into. If you show up with a half-assed attitude and an expectation that your night will suck, well, then you'll probably end up being right.

Like silver1 said, Hulla does not over-pack the Opera House beyond its legal capacity. Therefore, if you're genuinely psyched about this party, I would recommend coming for sure, and you'll most likely be comfortable.
 

LivingRoomPornstar

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If memory serves me correctly, the legal capacity is around 1000-1200. At least it was back in 2000, when i rented it.

Hope that gives you an idea.

I think Hullabaloo is making an educated decision with this venue choice. As we all know, a promoter who cancels or postpones their party these days, can pretty much kiss their reputation goodbye.

That's really unfortunate that there is so much bad mouthing going on, especially on the internet. This phenomenon, coupled with police pressure, has been responsible for the downsizing we've seen over the last couple of years.

We just don't bring our positive attitudes anymore. Our positive outlook prior is what kept things a float the whole time!(also known as "the vibe")

Dan
 

BigBadBaldy

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I don't attend Hulla parties, nor have I ever, but I've gotta give Chris full praise for seeing clearly what he had to do to ensure that these parties go off. His responsibilty looks to be to the people who attend, even if it means less guaranteed door, and to promoting the music.

Way better to have Hullas parties constantly happening than to try and pull off something that may not be financially viable and have it go down the tubes before your eyes for one of any number of logistical reasons, as we've all seen from numerous production companies at one time or another.

KoFf!!*wintergalactic*KoFfKoFf!!*514productions*KoFf!!

Anyway, big BIG ups to Anabolic Frolic for being an inspiration on that side of the fence.

BBB.

IMHumbleO.
 
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Evil Dynovac

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Originally posted by LivingRoomPornstar
If memory serves me correctly, the legal capacity is around 1000-1200. At least it was back in 2000, when i rented it.

Hope that gives you an idea.

I think Hullabaloo is making an educated decision with this venue choice. As we all know, a promoter who cancels or postpones their party these days, can pretty much kiss their reputation goodbye.

That's really unfortunate that there is so much bad mouthing going on, especially on the internet. This phenomenon, coupled with police pressure, has been responsible for the downsizing we've seen over the last couple of years.

We just don't bring our positive attitudes anymore. Our positive outlook prior is what kept things a float the whole time!(also known as "the vibe")

Dan
Our badmouthing has nothing to do with the state of party affairs in this city. Closing city-owned venues, hard-assed 'pay-duty' (more like extort-duty) officer requirements, and mafia-style venue owner scare tactics have but our scene into clubs or semi-safe havens such as the Opera House.

That and nothing else.
 
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LivingRoomPornstar

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Sounds pretty short-sighted my friend.

What do you base this assumption on?

I know all about paid-duties and EMS requirements for throwing parties, and I've acknowledged this to be a serious issue.

Word of mouth advertising plays a very powerful role when pulling off a party.

This may not have as dire an effect on those of us who have been around awhile, but for those who are new, reference groups(friends, websites, magazines) play a larger role in the decision making process.

I'm not the only one to make this observation.
 

xtollo

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Originally posted by iolarah
exclusionary
Do hulla kids even know what that means?

Totally kidding guy, I think Hulla parties are sick, and they are still a great vibe. If you want a good time, full of laughs, sketchy people and tons of cool colors, shit one word comes to mind. HULLABALOO! Keep up the good work Chris.

Jon
 

Ditto Much

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The police didn't follow the TDSC guidlines in good faith they instead turned to extortion. Maybe its time to stop trying to meet these requirements with regards to PDO.

Regardless I dislike the opera house because its uncreative and has been used so many times that even a hulla is little more than another club night. It leaves it undistinguished and to be frank fairly lame.



Then again I don't think that I'm the target market.
 
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