I went there a few days after it opened... as a long-time patron of roach-o-rama I'd seen it moved from one hole-in-the-wall to another, but suddenly their space opened waaaay up... they did really nice work on the renovations and that backyard patio is indeed serene. That is, until the hype blew up. A few weeks after the opening I could barely get a seat back there in lunch-time and it was the usual stoner-service I have grown familiar with from travelling to B.C. and A'dam. You know - you ordered that smoothie 30 minutes ago just so you could spend 10 minutes on that patio, and then when they bring it out its the wrong one anyway. But all that is beside the point... which is, to smoke weed in a place where it feels accepted and welcomed? I'm not sure if that's it. The problem that developed, imho, was the influx of over-eager activists and loud obnoxious types - last few times I was there I could barely hear the buzz in my noggin as various fellas pontificated about rights and politics and other bullshit I surely didn't want to hear about or think of while relaxing in that space. In fact, the whole situation grew far too tense back there for me, so I hadn't been back... what's that all prove? Oh, nothing I would say... nothing at all. I went on some funny days and naturally such a place will attract a certain kind of people. I suppose when there are more cafes and shops where this kind of thing goes on the loud types will be more evenly distributed. Or whatever. Don't bother me, man.