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PlumRidge

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Its warm out and the ice has melted. Hockey season is over.
[ Leafs will eventually lose to someone ] The NFL has just finished their annual draft and the Bills picked up a HUGE lineman and some QB named Bledsoe. I think this means a return to Orchard Park in the fall. Anyone else ??
 

juice

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I go to the Bills vs. Pats game every year with a bunch of friends. This game will be that much sweeter this time around with Bledsoe being there now, I can't wait!
 

juice

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Originally posted by TILT_Lance
they haven't gotten bledsoe yet.....New England wants buffalo's top two picks in the draft
It was already a done deal when I posted here check out the link to the story
 

kuba

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thats an absolutely crazy deal. nfl is one of my fave leagues and i know the bills suck ( i hate them ) but talk about sorting out your QB contraversy!

From Flutie Flakes to surferboy Johnson to BLEDSOE!

Why would they trade him to a division foe?

Q
 
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juice

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Yeah I know I love the salary cap that the NFL has setup. With the way the league is organized any team really has a shot of winning, especially with the huge TV contract they have that all the teams participate in. I mean small market teams like Green Bay have just as a shot as winning as say the Giants. Other leagues ESPECIALLY baseball need to have some sort of cap in order.

From what I've heard around New England really had no other offers on the table for Bledsoe, especially with his contract. I'd have to believe that as well because I'm sure it was their last wish to trade him to a division rival. If he is healthy I see no reason why the Bills won't make the playoffs this year.
 

Wunderbar

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Originally posted by juice
. If he is healthy I see no reason why the Bills won't make the playoffs this year.
Bills are weak at:
Offensive Line
Running Back
Defensive Line
Secondary


They will benefit from a last place schedule but they are in rebuilding mode
 

bucky

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damn!! theres actually hope for the team next year... can't believe i just found out about this
 

kerouacdude

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Originally posted by Wunderbar


Bills are weak at:
Offensive Line
Running Back
Defensive Line
Secondary


They will benefit from a last place schedule but they are in rebuilding mode
The Bills got Bledsoe for a1st rounder, picked up a behemoth in Mike Williams for the OL (375 lbs!)

and in case you haven't paid attention they've picked up in the last few weeks:

Trey Teague (OL): started all 16 games with the Broncos last year
Dave Moore (TE) from the Bucs,
and LBs London Fletcher (Rams) and Eddie Robinson (Titans)

Their offensive line has immediately gone from league's weakest to at least solid. Bills are good for 7-9 wins barring huge injury problems in 2002


and Espn.com's analysis of the Bills' draft:

AFC EAST

Buffalo Bills: The Bills took 12 picks in 2001 and kept 11 on their roster, practice squad or injured reserve list. Look for similar results this year, as the Bills could have another draft that has double-digit prospects. General manager Tom Donahoe and personnel chief Tom Modrak represent the best war room tandem in the league. They aren't always fancy but they draft guys who can play the game. Donahoe was tempted by defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, but it would have been out of character for him to take a chance on a hit-or-miss prospect. The Bills know how to evaluate players and how to value them as well. They don't reach and don't panic. Their first three picks - offensive tackle Mike Williams (No. 1), wideout Josh Reed (No. 2) and defensive end Ryan Denney (No. 3) - all were value choices. Grade: B-plus.
 

Wunderbar

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Fine, maybe if the cards fall into place they will be an 8-8 ball club. But what kind of pass rushing do they have? Can you bank on a rookie OT to just step nin and be effective? What about their cornerbacks? Their running game?


They have a lot of young players and won't be a force for another couple of years
 
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H2Whoa

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The Bills still have no running game and Bledsoe has to learn a new offense. The O-line stilll sucks - one rookie tackle doesn't make a line jell and be effective. Bledsoe cannot carry a team. He needs a strong running game to be effective. He also lacks mental toughness - he choked so many times in New England it was scary. Sure he has a strong arm. So does the starting QB at the local Buffalo highschool. I doubt if they will even finish .500
 

kerouacdude

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Actually, the offensive line is one place where a rookie can jump in and be effective due to how hard it is to find good OL's. See Richmond Webb, Erik Williams, and Ruben Brown who all had great rookie years.

No, the offensive line doesn't suck...it did, but it won't this year...Once again, the Bills picked up Trey Teague from the Broncos line - if you recall the Broncos have had not one, not two, but three 1000 yard rushers in the last few years...that's gotta tell you a little something about how good this guy is....They also picked up Marcus Price who's been on a few teams and can play tackle or guard.

I'm not huge on Shawn Bryson or Travis Henry either, but it's a semblance of a running game.

Barring injury, with Brown, Teague and Mike Williams, the Bills line immediately goes from league worst to top half of the league.
Bledsoe's only 30...he led a team to a Super Bowl...he's got Moulds, Price, Riemersma, and Jeremy McDaniel to throw to...a change of scenery will do him good.

From CNNSI's Peter King:

9. Buffalo. Since the day I watched Bryant McKinnie make mincemeat out of Dwight Freeney in a Miami-Syracuse game last fall, I thought McKinnie was the type of franchise tackle any team would love. I don't think Mike Williams is as good, though he's certainly a good player. But to get Bledsoe for next year's No. 1 -- that makes the weekend worthwhile. It's true that Bledsoe over the past four seasons has morphed into an everyday quarterback, but that's better than the Bills had. Now, with Bledsoe and Alex Van Pelt under center, the Bills should be at least a 9-7 team this fall
 

kerouacdude

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Originally posted by Wunderbar
Fine, maybe if the cards fall into place they will be an 8-8 ball club. But what kind of pass rushing do they have? Can you bank on a rookie OT to just step nin and be effective? What about their cornerbacks? Their running game?


They have a lot of young players and won't be a force for another couple of years
This is the parity-stricken NFL we're talking about ...EVERY team has at least one position that's a question mark going on...would you have pegged the Bears to have the season they did going in last year? Or the Rams, Ravens or Patriots to win the Super Bowl....I don't think the Bills are that good, but they weren't as bad as their record last year...they usually played hard and had a fragile quarterback half the time.
 

H2Whoa

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Originally posted by kerouacdude

No, the offensive line doesn't suck...it did, but it won't this year...Once again, the Bills picked up Trey Teague from the Broncos line - if you recall the Broncos have had not one, not two, but three 1000 yard rushers in the last few years...that's gotta tell you a little something about how good this guy is

Barring injury, with Brown, Teague and Mike Williams, the Bills line immediately goes from league worst to top half of the league.
Bledsoe's only 30...he led a team to a Super Bowl...he's got Moulds, Price, Riemersma, and Jeremy McDaniel to throw to...a change of scenery will do him good.

The line still sucks. Rueben Brown is overrated - all he does is false start and slide off the DT getting his RB killed. Trey Teague never panned out thats why the Broncos didn't keep him. He's a mediocre passblocker and he got zero leverage on his run blocks. The weakside pitch used to be one of their best running plays but Teague could never seal the corner. They didn't have a 1000 yard back last year - the only year he started. The Bills need to hope Williams doesn't eat himself right out of the league. Their line is now average- which is still better than last year. We'll see how Teague and Williams do when John Abraham comes flying around the corner and counters to inside to flatten a cement-shoed Bledsoe. Williams should help the running game because many the the AFC East ends on on the smallish side - he can mash. Sure Bledsoe lead a team to a Super Bowl but Curtis Martin was the teams offense and best player. The Bills do not have an offensive player who carry a team (well maybe Moulds).

Travis Henry is a pretty good back. He always runs hard with determination and last year he was hit in the backfield or at the LOS over half the time and still managed to get somewhere. The Bills need to copy the Eagles and learn how to run an effective screen to him.

Kevin Gilbride devises good schemes but he is notorious for blaming the player and not the system. The offense needs to match the personel to be effective. It also takes a QB 3-4 years to be comfortable in a new system.

Bills 6-10 (hey its double last years win total).
 

joey

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i'd be up for a road trip to see a game...

id prefer to go to detroit to see the lions play (no one say anything!) but i could settle for the bills
 
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juice

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I'd be down for going anytime! I had the best time on our last trip to Buffalo to see the bills. Took some pictures and stuff
 

joey

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okay someone start planning some stuff then...

im too lazy..

someone post their schedule or something
 
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H2Whoa

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2002 Schedule/Results (Regular Season)
Date Time Opponent Result
Sunday, 9/8 1:00 PM ET NY Jets
Sunday, 9/15 4:15 PM ET at Minnesota
Sunday, 9/22 4:05 PM ET at Denver
Sunday, 9/29 1:00 PM ET Chicago
Sunday, 10/6 1:00 PM ET Oakland
Sunday, 10/13 1:00 PM ET at Houston
Sunday, 10/20 1:00 PM ET at Miami
Sunday, 10/27 1:00 PM ET Detroit
Sunday, 11/3 1:00 PM ET New England
Sunday, 11/17 1:00 PM ET at Kansas City
Sunday, 11/24 1:00 PM ET at NY Jets
Sunday, 12/1 1:00 PM ET Miami
Sunday, 12/8 1:00 PM ET at New England
Sunday, 12/15 1:00 PM ET San Diego
Sunday, 12/22 1:00 PM ET at Green Bay
Sunday, 12/29 1:00 PM ET Cincinnati
 

juice

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You'd want to go to a game early in the season as well. It gets mighty cold during the winter games.
 

PlumRidge

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Originally posted by joey
i'd be up for a road trip to see a game...

id prefer to go to detroit to see the lions play (no one say anything!) but i could settle for the bills
I gotta say something to that. Detroit is always my 1st choice for an NFL game. The LIONS usually win whenever I show up and this year we get a NEW stadium , so we dont have to drive that extra hour out into the boonies. I dont think I will check out the new stadium until they start winning again , but will go see the LIONS get mauled by the BILLS in October.
 
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